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nyKnicks126
Dec 08, 2007, 09:54
Well the lottery is next month and here is the lottery projection or chances to get the 1st pick overall.
1. Miami Heat 25%
2. Seattle(OC) Supersonics 19.9%
3. Minnesota Timberwolves 13.8%
4. Memphis Grizzlies 13.7%
5. New York Knicks 7.6%
6. LA Clippers 7.5%
7. Milwaukee Bucks 4.3%
8. Charlotte Bobcats 2.8%
9. Chicago Bulls 1.7%
10. New Jersey Nets 1.1%
11. Indiana Pacers 0.8%
12. Sacramento Kings 0.7%
13. Portland Trailblazers 0.6%
14. Golden State Warriors 0.5%
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Early entry eligibility, latest : April 27
NBA Draft Lottery : May 20
Early entry withdrawal: June 16
NBA Draft: June 26

metrocard
Dec 08, 2007, 15:42
25.8ppg
14.8rpg
1.5apg
1.1spg
1.8bpg
57.9% FG
65.5% FT
40.0% 3pt
32.3 MPG(40 total)

nyKnicks126
Dec 08, 2007, 16:01
Beasley right :)

metrocard
Dec 08, 2007, 16:20
Yeh, dude is a BEAST...theres a lot of phenoms out of college. NBAdraft.net has us taking DeAndre Jordan from Texas.

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DeAndre Jordan
Birthday:7/21/1988
NBA Postion:Center
Class:Freshman
Ht:7-0
Wt:260
College Team:Texas A&M
Hometown:Houston, TX


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Damn, he made a nice pass in the paint, something I never seen Curry or Randolph do. He's a pretty raw player though.



My favorite draft site is draftexpress.com

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Nicolas Batum is nasty...

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nyKnicks126
Dec 08, 2007, 19:21
Kid is quick. kinda like Amare. with a little Dwight Howard in him. I like his game from what I see from that video. Good find man. You got anyone else?

NYK 33 TaVe
Dec 12, 2007, 17:40
I am praying for the knicks to win the lottery and to fire Isiah!

nyKnicks126
Dec 13, 2007, 12:55
If we continue this fall we will get a good pick unless we are unlucky like Memphis and having the projected 1st pick get the 4th pick. That would suck... The draft of 08 is said to be better then 2007 draft and the 2003 draft. So you can just imagine the talent...

ESPN Rookie Ranks
"1. Michael Beasley 6-9 PF Kansas State
Best outside-inside talent in the draft. But does he have the desire to be great?
2. Derrick Rose 6-4 PG Memphis
The best pure point guard in the draft could push for the No. 1 overall pick.
3. Eric Gordon 6-5 SG Indiana
Do-it-all combo guard is already lighting up the box scores as a freshman.
4. O.J. Mayo 6-4 SG USC
It's clear Mayo's going to be a great NBA scorer ... but will he give a team anything else?
5. DeAndre Jordan 7-0 C Texas A&M
Athletic big man has huge upside, but does he have the work ethic?
6. Kosta Koufos 7-1 C Ohio State
Skilled big man had a great summer. Looks like the drop off in the middle at Ohio State won't be as bad as some thought.
7. Chase Budinger 6-7 SG Arizona
Volleyball spiking 2 guard also has deep range on his jump shot. Has become the best player on the Arizona squad.
8. Darrell Arthur 6-10 PF Kansas
Long, athletic forward has been putting up some surprising numbers at Kansas.
9. Marreese Speights 6-10 C Florida
Big man has big talent and with Al Horford and Joakim Noah gone, he gets to show it.
10. John Riek 7-2 C Prep School
Mysterious big man from Sudan will try to jump from prep school to the NBA."

nyKnicks126
Dec 13, 2007, 12:57
Derrick Rose, and Beasley would help us out big time.

NicksKnicks
Dec 20, 2007, 12:03
donte greene is supposed to be quite a good player. some website had us picking him!

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i had a look and id love to see deandre jordan or mike beasley. I sniff a ring in a few years....

SoFresH
Dec 24, 2007, 09:19
How could espn not put Donte Greene up there...

6'11 SF that can shoot play nice D and make highlight dunks, Another Rashard Lewis maybe even better.

this is a guy we need to pick and i dont even care if we blow our whole season to get him. Dude will be a straight beast

nyKnicks126
Jan 06, 2008, 09:34
PLAYER Updates!
*Minnesota Michael Beasley 6-9 235 SF K.St. Fr.
2. *Miami Derrick Rose 6-4 195 PG Memphis Fr. 32.
3. *Memphis DeAndre Jordan 7-0 250 C TX A&M Fr.
4. *New York Eric Gordon 6-4 220 SG Indiana Fr.
5. Seattle Donte Greene 6-10 226 SF Syr. Fr.
6. LA Clippers Jerryd Bayless 6-3 182 PG Arizona Fr.
7. Milwaukee Blake Griffin 6-9 243 PF Oklahoma Fr.
8. Charlotte Nicolas Batum 6-8 210 SG France 1988
9. Sacramento Brook Lopez 7-0 260 C Stanford So.
10. Chicago OJ Mayo 6-5 210 SG USC Fr.
NBADraft.net

If things continue the way there going....

Now some information about each top 5 player.
#1 pick overall-.Michael Beasley
10/10 Athleticism.. 9/10 Size...7/10 Defense ...9/10 Strengh...9/10 Quickness....6/10 Leadership...9/10 Jumpshot...NBA Ready 9/10...Rebounding 10/10...Potential 10/10...Post Skills 9/10... Intangibles 6/10. OVERALL 103
This guy wouldn't be the right fit for the Knicks.. Not to much leadership... and defense has to improve, but its good in my opinion anyway.. Knicks shouldn't try getting him..But I also wouldn't mind him on the team.. Great shooter. and has loads of potential... and is one of the ten top players in the draft that is REALLY NBA ready. I guess the Knicks can take him.

#2 pick overall-Derrick Rose
10/10 Athleticism.. 9/10 Size...9/10 Defense ...8/10 Strengh...10/10 Quickness....9/10 Leadership...7/10 Jumpshot...NBA Ready 7/10...Ball Handling 8/10...Potential 10/10...Passing 8/10... Intangibles 8/10. Overall 103.
I would like this guy on the team. Great point guard with a good mentality of the game. He might be a little raw for the NBA, but will be a great player for the NBA. Knicks should get this guy.

#3 pick overall-DeAndre Jordan
10/10 Athleticism.. 10/10 Size...9/10 Defense ...9/10 Strengh...9/10 Quickness...7/10 Leadership...8/10 Jumpshot...NBA Ready 6/10...Rounding 9/10...Potential 10/10...Post Skills 6/10... Intangibles 8/10. Overall 101.
Good player. I just hope he will have the work ethic. People say that his work ethic is below average then anyone else on the team. A little to over confident I should call him.. Its a coin flip with this guy... I just don't think he will fit either... But if he shows work, and is not a player like Curry.. THEN I see him on this Knick team.

#4 pick overall-Eric Gordon
10/10 Athleticism.. 6/10 Size...7/10 Defense ...10/10 Strengh...9/10 Quickness....8/10 Leadership...10/10 Jumpshot...NBA Ready 9/10...Ball Handling 7/10...Potential 9/10...Passing 7/10... Intangibles 8/10. Overall 100.
Eric Gordon, also a player that is NBA ready. Great of the dribble, and score. Defense can improve. I like this player. The Knicks can get him if the chance comes.

#5 pick overall-Donte Green
8/10 Athleticism.. 9/10 Size...8/10 Defense ...8/10 Strengh...8/10 Quickness....8/10 Leadership...9/10 Jumpshot...NBA Ready 8/10...Ball Handling 7/10...Potential 9/10...Passing 8/10... Intangibles 8/10. Overall 98.
This kid is great. I would like to have a hard working player like him on this team.. He has the potential to be a great All Star in this league.
Knicks should definately scout the guy.

metrocard
Jan 09, 2008, 21:07
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6"10
225 lbs
PF/C

Strengths
Agility
Quick leaper
long arms, long lean strong body
Runs the court well for a big man
Has 3pt range
Can hit the mid range jumper consistently.
Good FT shooter for his position.
Has been the best shot blocker in college basketball for all 3 season's he's played in
Excellent at boxing out and rebounding
Tough defender

Weaknesses

Strength
Rawness
Not strong around the basket
Not enough experience


I've been following James his rookie year, he played in Northeastern with Jose Juan Barea, current PG for the Dallas Mavericks. James was amazing and one of the most athletic big men I ever seen before.

Here are his stats from his freshman and rookie years @ Northeastern.

2004-05
24 minutes
10.6 ppg
7.6 rpg
1 spg
5.4 bpg <~ not a typo
63&#37; FG
71% FT
33% 3pt

2005-06
27 minutes
12.4 ppg
8 rpg
1.5 apg
.8 spg
6.5 bpg <~ NOT A TYPO again
52% FG
45% 3pt
73% FT

He then transfered from Northeastern to Duquesne
He's averaging 14 ppg 7.2 rebounds in 24 minutes on 58% FG and 73% FT while shooting 31% from 3pt. He's only averaging 4.4 blocks.




Article on him


December 13, 2007
Shawn James is a fascinating and frustrating prospect at the same time. While he possesses outstanding physical tools and a tantalizing skill set, he is in a system that is not rewarding to post players and is coming off of a transfer season filled with injuries and inaction. The past three games, particularly games against West Virginia and Pittsburgh, really show both sides of James, the great, and the rusty.

Most NBA draft junkies know Shawn James, the elite shot blocker, but first it is worth mentioning how much his offensive game has improved. Against good post defense, James had the ability to showcase his various improvements and his potential to be a post player and post scorer at the next level. The results were mixed. James is still a somewhat of a work in progress on the offensive end. On the low blocks, he shows a nice arsenal of post moves, from spin moves to turnarounds. While he does not have the greatest touch in the world, he does convert on a good amount of his shots around the basket, shooting 58% for the season.

Even further from the basket, James is effective, being able to knock down open jump-shots from 15 feet to just inside the NBA three point line. He has a consistent shooting form, but one that could still use a substantial amount of work. However, he shoots foul shots very well for a post player, which proves that it’s just a matter of practice in terms of tightening up his jump-shot’s form. For a guy James’s size, this is an attractive facet of his offensive game. Still, you’d like to see him getting more involved under the basket. However, because of the nature of the Duquesne offense, touches are few and far between. Even though he and fellow post player, Kieron Achara, are averaging over 26 ppg, they are still having to scrap for their points and hope for passes from their trigger happy, selfish guards. Therefore, a lot of James’s points are self-created and have a lot to do with his aggressiveness on the offensive boards as well as his ability to face the basket on the offensive end. James’s offense in general is a little mechanical and inconsistent, but as said before, he should be constantly improving all season and shaking off the rust.

On the defense end, James is a presence merely by stepping onto the court. Watching West Virginia and Pittsburgh shoot over 15 three-pointers per game shows, to a certain extent, his incredible defensive reputation. He is incredibly gifted athletically and uses a combination of length with this athleticism to alter shots at a remarkable rate. He also has superior body control, timing, and consistency, making him a shot blocking threat in the open floor as well as in the post. Whomever James defends is usually altering their shot by the end of the game. In terms of his actual post defense, the key word is strength. James is very skinny and even if he were to succeed at the next level as a face up power forward, he is still far too weak to get touches on the offensive end and make plays on the defensive end. He should look to gain more muscle, though this could be an endeavor for a guy who has only been able to put 20 pounds onto his already feeble frame. He has the quickness and agility to be a good post defender, but it all depends on whether or not he can gain the right amount of strength.

This also affects his rebounding. While he rebounds at an extremely high rate for the amount of minutes he plays, he still has a long way to go before being considered an elite rebounder. For one, James is always a second late establishing position on the boards, constantly giving his man time to box him out. Despite his athleticism and length, he is not strong enough to fight around the box out or establish position for himself. Therefore, on the defensive boards, as well as the offensive boards, he is somewhat of an underachiever. Considering the fact that he is already pulling in 7.7 rpg, his potential is through the roof should he be able to become stronger and work on his fundamentals.

That is a good way to describe Shawn James: potential is through the roof. So, even though James is having one of the best years of his career, he has a lot of work to do before becoming a legitimate NBA prospect. He has the size, athleticism, and ability to, if he works hard, become a serviceable face-up power forward in the future. The rest of this year will be a telling one for James in terms of how much of this potential is actually attainable. For the upstart Duquesne Dukes, however, James’s involvement on the offensive end is essential for any sort of success.

I'm not concerned about his strength, anyone can gain strength with the proper training and with NBA trainers this shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway, we need this guy, he's the Anti Curry.

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As of 2/9/06...
Leading the NCAA in 6.4 bpg and 134 total blocks.
On pace to match Adonal Foyle's NCAA record of 6.4 bpg set in 1997.
Last year as a freshman he was 2nd in the nation at 5.4 bpg.
Shooting .452% this year...from behind the arc, 14-31.
Playing in just his fourth year of organized basketball.

I just saw the guy play on TV a while ago against Virginia Commonwealth I'll never forget it
He got a triple double, first of the year (had two last year):
26 points, 10 rebounds, 10 blocks, 3 assists, 1 steal.
10-13 FG, 1-3 3PT, 5-7 FT (barely missed the last two)
Best of all: 1 turnover and 2 personal fouls. He has countless numbers of games like this and goes unnoticed.

Let me say this, and I'm calling it:
Shawn James will be the steal of whatever draft he's in.
He has the best knack for blocked shots I've seen in a long while.
Has terrific quickness in his vertical leap, allowing him to wait longer.
His wingspan is somewhere in the 7'1"/7'2" range.
He usually keeps the ball in play when he blocks a la Bill Russell.

Not only that but...he displayed a excellent shooting form, some nice moves and good awareness under the basket on offense, and he made a terrific backdoor pass. I simply cannot believe how good he is for someone who's had only four years of organized basketball. Unreal

"I just decided that I wanted to get paid for playing basketball," James says. "I wanted to be able to provide for my family when [Ebony] is six and when my younger sister Teceeta is a senior in high school."

He's hungry.

HITMAN87
Jan 11, 2008, 16:17
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Shawne James [Only registered and activated users can see images]
6"10
225 lbs
PF/C

Strengths
Agility
Quick leaper
long arms, long lean strong body
Runs the court well for a big man
Has 3pt range
Can hit the mid range jumper consistently.
Good FT shooter for his position.
Has been the best shot blocker in college basketball for all 3 season's he's played in
Excellent at boxing out and rebounding
Tough defender

Weaknesses

Strength
Rawness
Not strong around the basket
Not enough experience


I've been following James his rookie year, he played in Northeastern with Jose Juan Barea, current PG for the Dallas Mavericks. James was amazing and one of the most athletic big men I ever seen before.

Here are his stats from his freshman and rookie years @ Northeastern.

2004-05
24 minutes
10.6 ppg
7.6 rpg
1 spg
5.4 bpg <~ not a typo
63% FG
71% FT
33% 3pt

2005-06
27 minutes
12.4 ppg
8 rpg
1.5 apg
.8 spg
6.5 bpg <~ NOT A TYPO again
52% FG
45% 3pt
73% FT

He then transfered from Northeastern to Duquesne
He's averaging 14 ppg 7.2 rebounds in 24 minutes on 58% FG and 73% FT while shooting 31% from 3pt. He's only averaging 4.4 blocks.




Article on him



I'm not concerned about his strength, anyone can gain strength with the proper training and with NBA trainers this shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway, we need this guy, he's the Anti Curry.

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As of 2/9/06...
Leading the NCAA in 6.4 bpg and 134 total blocks.
On pace to match Adonal Foyle's NCAA record of 6.4 bpg set in 1997.
Last year as a freshman he was 2nd in the nation at 5.4 bpg.
Shooting .452% this year...from behind the arc, 14-31.
Playing in just his fourth year of organized basketball.

I just saw the guy play on TV a while ago against Virginia Commonwealth I'll never forget it
He got a triple double, first of the year (had two last year):
26 points, 10 rebounds, 10 blocks, 3 assists, 1 steal.
10-13 FG, 1-3 3PT, 5-7 FT (barely missed the last two)
Best of all: 1 turnover and 2 personal fouls. He has countless numbers of games like this and goes unnoticed.

Let me say this, and I'm calling it:
Shawn James will be the steal of whatever draft he's in.
He has the best knack for blocked shots I've seen in a long while.
Has terrific quickness in his vertical leap, allowing him to wait longer.
His wingspan is somewhere in the 7'1"/7'2" range.
He usually keeps the ball in play when he blocks a la Bill Russell.

Not only that but...he displayed a excellent shooting form, some nice moves and good awareness under the basket on offense, and he made a terrific backdoor pass. I simply cannot believe how good he is for someone who's had only four years of organized basketball. Unreal

"I just decided that I wanted to get paid for playing basketball," James says. "I wanted to be able to provide for my family when [Ebony] is six and when my younger sister Teceeta is a senior in high school."

He's hungry.


LETS BE REAL SHAWN JAMES= BUST U AND I KNO IT NBDL PLAYER AT BEST. ANYWAY THE KICKS NEED TO DRAFT 1 OF THESE 4 PLAYERS TO GET BACK TO BEING A PROUD FRANCHISE AGAIN

1- D ROSE
2- E GORDON
3- BEASLEY
4- MAYO

AND WHO IS SHAWN JAMES??? HES A NON FACTOR




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nyKnicks126
Jan 11, 2008, 16:34
1- D ROSE
2- E GORDON
3- BEASLEY
4- MAYO




Nah.. D Rose, Beasley, DeAndre Jordon, Eric Gordon....

No way I want Mayo now, I was a fan of his, but he is not playing well. To much turnovers. and he is a shoot first player, not pass first.

How can you call him a bust... Shawn aint a bust he's a great defensive player. and can fit into this league.. a little raw.

metrocard
Jan 11, 2008, 18:17
LETS BE REAL SHAWN JAMES= BUST U AND I KNO IT NBDL PLAYER AT BEST. ANYWAY THE KICKS NEED TO DRAFT 1 OF THESE 4 PLAYERS TO GET BACK TO BEING A PROUD FRANCHISE AGAIN

1- D ROSE
2- E GORDON
3- BEASLEY
4- MAYO

AND WHO IS SHAWN JAMES??? HES A NON FACTOR




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I thought you were busy to talking to hos? Haha, I knew you were whacking, loser.

Please stop your predications, you've been WRONG all them. Hop off Beasley I don't want him to be a bust because you predicted he's going to be nice. Everyone you say thats going to be nice becomes so whack they make their way out of the NBA.

Shawn James is a second round pick who could become a first rounder if he stays consistent.

You only know like 4 players from this draft, you're a fool...let Knicks126 and I discuss the draft...you just hold our coffee. I'm Barkley and He's Kenny Smith...you just hold the camera for us.

Learn how to post videos here...you look like a mamaguebo posting invalid links.

nyKnicks126
Jan 12, 2008, 14:35
Exactly Metro. Thanks you are right only the people that know what they talkin about like you and me should post about the draft not that scrub hitman. haha!

metrocard
Jan 13, 2008, 15:19
Ricky Rubio

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nyKnicks126
Jan 13, 2008, 16:00
Damn, that kids got anticipation 0:58 was a crazy pass, actually all of them where nice.. He is good.. You got a player profile on him? Is he goin for the draft this year?

nyKnicks126
Jan 13, 2008, 16:26
DeAndre Jordan is now ranked the Knicks pick third overall on NBADraft.net..

The things about him is that he is a raw player, and his work ethic at times are not existant... I don't want this guy to be another Kwame... but it seems like the Knicks gotta take a chance on him.. if he does gets picked by the Knicks I think we should start him automatically... and trade EC away. Like Portland did to make room for Aldrigde PF spot because of drafting Oden and trading Zach away.

OR. if the Knicks do get the 3rd pick.. will the Knicks Pick Eric Gordon...He can play!... BUT he is a shooting guard, a player the Knicks really don't need at this point unless we trade Crawford.

OJ Mayo... Nah.. College is to much for him as you see.. Last year he was projected to be the top pick in the 08 draft. Has fallen to the 10th overall pick.

Hasheem Thabeet projected 11th pick.. 7 foot 3 inch player... Compared to Motumbo.. This YEAR 10 points 8 rebounds and 4 BLOCKED shots. He is a Sophomore for the Huskies. Good player. I think he will go down in the ranks. BUT he is a good player without a doubt.. A bit unconsisant on offense, but his defense pays off!

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That video was from last year.. This year is a big improvement in all areas.


Hilbert I dont like I am not goin to talk about him..He seems like an Isiah player. He is a senior in College This year 12 points and 6.5 rebounds per game. I like GEORGETOWN.. but I just don't really have faith in this kid. NBA comparison Joel Przybilla.

D.J. Augustin small but plays with heart has leadership I like this player. Currently ranked 16 for the 08 Draft.. Compared to a young Travis Best.
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abcd
Jan 13, 2008, 17:32
This is a good thread, but I think it would've been better to post this thread after the trade deadline. Depending on who or what Isiah trades between now and the deadline will determine the type of player we need.Right now, we could really use a good defensive Center and a good defensive point guard. But this could change, if Isiah makes a trade between now and the deadline.

KnIcKliFe031
Jan 13, 2008, 23:17
how About That Dude Kenny George Frrom Unc

nyKnicks126
Jan 16, 2008, 14:33
With the 2 game winning streak the Knicks are currently the 5th worse team in the NBA. Which if the lottery would go as planned and the Knicks would get the 5th pick small forward Donte Greene would be a player the Knicks would shoot for.

Donte Greene is a player with loads of potential, and he is a shooter. People relate his game to Rashard Lewis. Donte is a 6'11 SMALL FORWARD, with his height he can be a weapon the Knicks would pick up if drafted.

PPG 18.9 | APG 1.9 | RPG 8.2 | 1.2 STL | 2.0 BLK

These numbers are great for a freshmen in Syracuse or any other school.

The Knicks with there 2 game winning streak. They are 2 1/2 games in front of Miami. 1 1/2 game in front of Memphis. 3 games in front of Seattle. and 6 1/2 games in front of Minnesota.

theknicks3
Jan 16, 2008, 17:32
Nathan Jawai is an amazing player. He has only recently been discovered by the scouts. But I have been watching him early on this NBL season when he started his rook campaign.

He is amazing, and the word is that if he went to college he would be a lottery pick. Alot better than bogut in my opinion.

He is projected to go at 30, which would be the steal of the draft.

But any team who gets him after ten would be very happen once they see him.

I would love for the knicks to trade Crawford/Randolph/Curry to the warriors for the 20th pick and draft this guy.

The knicks team would look like

Marbury
Derrick Rose
Balkman
Lee
Jawai

that would be the best young team in the nba

metrocard
Jan 21, 2008, 08:56
I love scouting guys people never talk about, so I'm going to introduce you guys to a lottery pick prospect from Congo.

Serge Ibaka
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H: 6' 10"
W: 220 lbs
Bday: 09/18/1989
(18 Years Old)

Strengths:

Freakish athleticism
Frame
Wingspan
Shot-blocking potential
Lateral quickness
Finishing ability
Tenacity/Motor
Perimeter shooting skills
Range out to 3-point line
Producing at fairly high European level
Upside


Weaknesses:

Experience
Back to the basket skills
Decision making
Basketball IQ
Fundamentals
Ball-handling skills
Passing ability
Work in progress


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abcd
Jan 21, 2008, 09:08
You should also put weight as a weakness. Quentin Richardson is 4 inches shorter than him, and he weighs 15 pounds more.lol

nyKnicks126
Jan 21, 2008, 09:22
I have no clue what you talkin about...He is a fit player. and thanks to his height he can actually JUMP. Unlike Curry, Randolph, Q, Rose, ETC.

This guy is in good shape plain and simple. That is a weakness to you lol.

Plus the pounds he weighs will change over time, almost all NBA Centers gain weight over there career. He will be fine. Look at Shaq, Dwight, Ofakor (PF), Curry is in a different league he should play for the D league..

I think its better to weight 220 Then Currys 285

abcd
Jan 21, 2008, 11:38
You have a good point.Weighing 220 doesn't stop you from playing well.There's plenty of players in this league who are slim and can still play well.Bad post by me.

nyKnicks126
Jan 21, 2008, 12:17
Hey man NO prob. son. Its all good. Sorry I was hard on you man.

nyKnicks126
Jan 25, 2008, 08:40
Okay now there is a huge difference in what ESPN, and NBAdraft site tell me about the rookie standings.
Top 10 Rookies projected to be Drafted in 08.
ESPN
1. Michael Beasley
2. Derrick Rose
3. Eric Gordon
4. DeAndre Jordan
5. O.J. Mayo
6. Donte Greene
7. Brook Lopez
8. Chase Budinger
9. Marreese Speights
10. Darrell Arthur

NBAdraft. net
1. Beasley
2.Rose
3.Jordan
4.Gordon
5.Greene
6.Bayless
7.Lopez
8.Batum
9.Hibbert
10.Mayo.

Do you guys think Mayo will be a suprise in the NBA, I remember when he such a good player in HS, everyone thought he would be the best pick.

Anyway I vote NBAdraft. net the better site out of the two. That site knows what they are talkin about.

LJ4ptplay
Jan 25, 2008, 09:44
How come NBADraft.net has DeAndre Jordan going 3rd and DraftExpress doesn't have him drafted at all? I don't think I've ever seen a discrepancy in mock drafts like that before.

DraftExpress also gives Roy Hibbert a high rating. Possibly another Georgetown center coming to the Knicks?

- Fire Isiah
- Trade Curry
- Draft Hibbert
- Hire Ewing as assistant coach
- Ewing teaches Hibbert

metrocard
Jan 26, 2008, 20:07
Hibbert is too slow to play in today's NBA as a full time, especially with big men like Horford, KG, Dwight, Amare. He will be a serviceable back up at best.

A sleeper pick is Brook Lopez, 7 foot athletic big man who can defend, rebound and shoot, very well rounded big man and very strong at 260 lbs, he's still growing into his game; has a lot of room for improvement and excellent work ethic to get him to his full potential. He worked really hard to recover from his back surgery and is looking to lead Stanford through the Pac-10.


The best draft site is draftexpress. NBADraft.net seem to have Isiahsexual like prediction ability, so never trust those guys with player projections.

nyKnicks126
Feb 01, 2008, 14:51
I got some new player updates from draftexpress. This part of the thread this should show you a player these young draft picks are simular too, and potential wise were they get in their career, best case, and worst case.
Micheal Beasley

Best Case: More Athletic Zach Randolph
Worst Case: Al Harrington
I gotta say a athletic Z Bo is just what this league needs. Micheal will be a All Star one day for sure.

Derrick Rose

Best Case: Baron Davis
Worst Case: Antonio Daniels
Thats scary.. Antonio Daniels thats what Derrick Rose may become.. So far as a freshmen in Memphis, I am not to happy with his stats so far.. I hope he will prove people wrong so he will be as good or even better then Baron Davis.

Eric Gordon

Best Case: Rich Man's Ben Gordon
Worst Case: Flip Murray
wow what a comparison.. I believe E. Gordon, would become a better defender then Ben Gordon. Flip Murray thats won't happen unless injuries come to play for this player.

OJ Mayo (Knicks projected 4th pick)

Best Case: Dwyane Wade
Worst Case: Willie Green
That would be crazy if OJ Mayo gets more work ethic and becomes the next D Wade. Quick, and just to good (no homo) against other point guards. OJ primary position is PG, but does play SG on occasion.

What bothers me is the DeAndre Jordon is not on Draftexpress 2008 NBA Draft board. Thats messed up.

metrocard
Feb 01, 2008, 23:19
Beasley is a new breed of big man, he has no accurate comparison.

Derrick Rose isn't a chucker like Davis, Rose still has a lot of work to do, if he doesn't improved on the rest of the season, he should stay another year for his own benefit. His jumpshot isn't really much of a threat, he hasn't look like a "pure" PG everyone was raving over him to be, he has the defensive tools; but needs more experience to make those tools effective. I'm still high on him.

Eric Gordon is IGHT, I wouldn't ride out with him as a "franchise" player like I would with Beasley.

yo knicks126, OJ Mayo plays SG @ USC, Kruger plays PG for USC, OJ Mayo is purely a SG.

He reminds me of Larry Hughes(Washington Wizards version) with 3pt range.

nyKnicks126
Feb 02, 2008, 09:30
See I dont watch much USC. And you said Draftexpress is the best site.. They give out inaccurate information then.

I watch Georgetown, Indiana, Georgia Tech.

Knicks update. The Knicks the the 5th worst team in the NBA. and Because of the recent trade Memphis and LA. The Memphis Grizzlies wont be doing much better at all. So the 5th spot is probably were the Knicks will be, unless they somehow win the lottery, which would be awesome. ANYONE? HERE going to the 2008 NBA Draft @ the theather?

metrocard
Feb 02, 2008, 10:57
I'm a insane draft junkie, but DraftExpress is the best site by far, they cover EVERY league and have scouts all over the world. No other site can compare. Plus all their scouts are cool as hell to talk, you can PM or send them an email and they'll answer any question you have

I use to work @ another draft site that couldn't stay on the internet but had a huge internet fanbase called NBAdraft.tk I use to write a lot of profiles since I scouted a lot of NCAA players and players in the Latin American leagues. Since the Knicks been losing so much, it has allowed me to look into the draft deeper and deeper.

The main qualities I look for are

1. Work ethic
2. Adequate at different dimensions
3. Awareness on both ends.

I feel like "talent" and "potential" are two overrated terms that usually results in a bust; everyone has talent and potential but you can't go no where with it if you don't have good work ethic.

I look for gym rats in the draft, guys who are really determine to play basketball for a living instead of worry about how many cars they want to buy.

I'm probably going to write some scouting reports later this month when I got time, especially since March Madness is a weak away.

Keep an eye out for Jonathan Rodriguez, 6"5 SF/PF averaging 22 pg over 10 rebounds, shooting 50&#37; in the Atlantic Sun division.

Hey Maj, I owe you a meet up; we should go to the draft together; when I find out how much are the tickets or w/e, we'll meet up and make noise @ the draft. It'll be my first ever draft I will attend.

nyKnicks126
Feb 02, 2008, 18:21
Hey Maj, I owe you a meet up; we should go to the draft together; when I find out how much are the tickets or w/e, we'll meet up and make noise @ the draft. It'll be my first ever draft I will attend.

yo Jose, We should go to the draft. I know they sell tickets in the morning of the draft. is it expensive?but I heard people are mad LOUD @ the theather. I just gotta know the prices, I think LadyNYK knows the prices, and I will ask her now.:beer: That too, will be the first draft I will attend. Hopefully the Knicks get somewhere in the top 3 in picks. Mad knick fans are going to be there. I want to meet almost all of you guys from the forum.

Anyone else thats interested, and wants to come to the draft wit us it would be cool.

metrocard
Feb 03, 2008, 11:58
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NYKnicks15
Feb 04, 2008, 14:51
We have to take this draft as if no trades are made before deadline. or in the offseason for that matter which i dont see happening BUT that means we have a core of young guys that we should build off of Robinson, Balkman, Chandler, Lee, Morris, Collins and to an extent Curry/Randolph ugh.

As much as i like Derrick rose if we are committed to nate robinson we dont draft him. and seeing i dont think well be worse than Memphis or Twolves we really dont have a chance at him anyway. but who knows with predraft stuff going on and teams drafting for need first.

our key weakness is small forward and shot blocking. i think if we just let Balkman and Chandler play with Randolph Morris wed cover them situations a little BUT dont see that happening.

say what you will about isiah thomas he is an incredible drafter. so he might go for something that surprises us.. granted hes still with us.

the logical pick is DeAndre Jordan. This kid can move his feet on D, block very nicely and play team ball NOT needing it down low 24-7. depending on our roster at that point in time he seems like the best pick to make. somehow make a deal for randolph to leave and then you have a Curry/Lee/Jordan rotation up front.

now i dont need to say that beasley should be our main priority IF available. but at this point unless kwame brown elevates the play of memphis or the twolves go on a streak its not possible.

Im a syracuse fan all the way, so the pick of Donte Green entices me. and at 6'10 being a small forward who can score AND play D (love you Boeheim! haha) he is what we could use.

SO depending on our roster at the time of the draft
1. Beasley. 2. Jordan. 3.Green should be our order of importance.

allanhoustonfan220
Feb 05, 2008, 20:42
i hate to think about rebuildin, but the time haz come to rebuild and let some1 with a real vision start. there are a bunch of solid players in the draft and hopefully we can find the one right 4 us. i love oj mayo' and derrick rose's game but obviously the last thing we need is more guards. while i dont want to get a high draft pics cuz id rather us make the playoffs, it is the inevitable that we will keep on losin :(

metrocard
Feb 05, 2008, 21:03
i hate to think about rebuildin, but the time haz come to rebuild and let some1 with a real vision start. there are a bunch of solid players in the draft and hopefully we can find the one right 4 us. i love oj mayo' and derrick rose's game but obviously the last thing we need is more guards. while i dont want to get a high draft pics cuz id rather us make the playoffs, it is the inevitable that we will keep on losin :(

Dude, we should of rebuild 3-4 years ago. You're pretty late.


DeAndre Jordan is mad RAW...he doesn't have Bynum's talent level or work ethic, I wouldn't gamble on him.

We need a PG...I wouldn't mind grabbing DJ Augustine.
Strengths:

Strong build
Basketball instincts
Mix between scoring/passing
Outstanding ball-handling skills w/either hand
Change of gears/Hesitation moves
Ability to get to free throw line
Pick and roll play
Perimeter shooting
Off the dribble shooting
Quick release
Mid-range game
Transition play
Court vision
Unselfishness
Under control play
Assist to turnover ratio
Commitment to playing defense
Fundamentals
Intangibles


Augustin's sophomore year so far:

34.9 mpg
19.1 ppg
7.0 assists
2.4 rebounds
57% FG
86% FT
47% 3 pts
4.1 TO

TJ Ford's sophomore year (won national player of the year at Texas)

33.6 mpg
15.0 ppg
7.7 assists
3.9 rebounds
40% FG
82% FT
27% 3 pts
3.2 TO

Chris Paul's sophomore year

33.4 mpg
15.2 ppg
6.6 assists
?? rebounds (can't find)
45% FG
83% FT
47% 3 pt
2.8 TO

Deron Williams junior year

33.7 mpg
12.5 ppg
6.8 assists
?? rebounds (can't find)
43% FG
68% FT
36% 3 pt
2.8 TO

Jameer Nelson senior year

33.9 mpg
20.6 ppg
5.3 assists
?? rebounds
48% FG
79% FT
39% 3 pt
2.8 TO


This a potential Steve Nash clone; passing on him would be ignorant. We need a matured complete PG, with a lot of dimensions. DJ is that guy.

The best big man in the draft is Brook Lopez, believe or not. He can shoot, scorer in the paint, and play incredible defense and is very athletic for his size. He's a hard working kid and is an angel(quiet kid that doesn't cause trouble).

If we can somehow get DJ Augustin and Brook Lopez in this draft(trade for a pick, anything), and draft a SG in the 2nd round like Courtney Lee, Richard Roby, Shan Foster, Brandon Rush(if he falls).

If this is accomplished, our future can look like

Augustin/Robinson
Roby/Collins
Balkman/Chandler
Lee/Your mom
Lopez/Morris

Pretty legit.