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jpz17
Jul 08, 2008, 21:42
Predict your trades and stuff here, also discuss trades and playoffs...

Here is the MLB trade deadline '08 so far....

Cubs get Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson ([Only registered and activated users can see images])

Brewers acquire CC Sabathia

more to come later!

TunerAddict
Jul 08, 2008, 22:34
Mets better pick up someone....Hopefully they sign Barry Bonds.

Paul1355
Jul 08, 2008, 22:47
Cubs have a good starting rotation...Zambrano,Harden,Dempster,Gaudin...good starting 4

WTF wit the Yankees we can afford anyone get Harden! we need a SP Ace we cant survive on Mike Mussina!

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 09, 2008, 12:52
mets should sign barry bonds. i really could care less about the clubhouse ****. the mets need a bat and he's one of the best out there.

jpz17
Jul 10, 2008, 22:16
maybe they could trade for a Athletic or Marlin, they seem to always trade their good players...

Man Dan Uggla as a met, I could see it

Paul1355
Jul 11, 2008, 02:55
maybe they could trade for a Athletic or Marlin, they seem to always trade their good players...

Man Dan Uggla as a met, I could see it


haha you mets fans are thinkin of dreams...look at your team..Hispanic all the way...you think Omar Minaya is gonna try to get a white player? look at what he traded away and paid huge contracts to luis castillo, moises alou, beltran 10 mil year?, i was shocked when he got ryan church and schneider from washington cuz there white. If David Wright wasnt so damn good he'd trade him too. I think Manaya needs to be shipped out of the Mets it wasnt Willie Randolph that F'ed it up last year and this year it's Omar's dumb trades he makes. Spanish players are great and the best in baseball but when you trade away white guys better with more potential and talent for some bums like luis castillo and moises alou that are washups...and please, jose reyes is a good hitter and fast as hell but he's the biggest baby and clubhouse negative a team could have....when i saw him throw his hat after Delgado made an error...i said to myself this guy is the type of guy that ruins chemistry..its true. I dont care if your A-Rod you show up a teammate like that and cause problems your out of there ...traded and shipped no exceptions. Thats the way the Mets should be and if they were smart they'd get a new GM.

jpz17
Jul 11, 2008, 11:02
he has mad some bad moves, but I'm not a Mets fan, I'm a Yankee fan, ALL THE WAY!

Paul1355
Jul 12, 2008, 21:22
us yankee fans need an Ace pitcher and another solid one...were week on the starting pitching and we might have to trade Posada...his arm is bad and unless his hitting numbers go back to last year i think we can get another good catcher for him..and younger

jpz17
Jul 13, 2008, 20:16
Wang is commin back and Hughes and Kenedy are too

Paul1355
Jul 13, 2008, 21:01
Wang is commin back and Hughes and Kenedy are too

Wang is key, but Hughes has to step it up, and Kennedy can be trade bait...word is the Rockies want him for Brian Fuentes i'd make that trade in a heart beat.

jpz17
Jul 14, 2008, 21:23
We will have dominate bullpen next year.
Brian Bruney Back
Albaljadeo (sp) back
Edwar Ramirez
Jose Veraz
Humberto Sanchez back
Kyle Farnsworth (most hot and cold player ever, hate him, cut him)
Letroy Hawkins
Andrew Brackman
Pavano
Kenedey
Chase Wright
Billy Traber
Ohlendorph
Karstens
MO!!!!!!

Starting 5
------------------------
Wang
Joba
Pettite
Mussina

FIGHT
Hughes
Kenedey
Rasner
Ponson

A lot to fight for one spot

Paul1355
Jul 15, 2008, 00:36
We will have dominate bullpen next year.
Brian Bruney Back
Albaljadeo (sp) back
Edwar Ramirez
Jose Veraz
Humberto Sanchez back
Kyle Farnsworth (most hot and cold player ever, hate him, cut him)
Letroy Hawkins
Andrew Brackman
Pavano
Kenedey
Chase Wright
Billy Traber
Ohlendorph
Karstens
MO!!!!!!

Starting 5
------------------------
Wang
Joba
Pettite
Mussina

FIGHT
Hughes
Kenedey
Rasner
Ponson

A lot to fight for one spot

I know your naming everyone but i want to give a little analisyt on that...
1)First off Albadelejo is a reliever so far never heard him as a starter if he can be one even better
2)Farnsworth is hot and cold but ever since Joba became a starter he's proven himself a decent set up man and when he's hot he's on of the best in baseball
3)BUnch of relievers in their are question marks some are definite...Pavano is the biggest dissapointment i have ever seen.....Hawkins, Kennedy, Chase Wright, Billy Traber(good curveball), Orlendorhf and Karstens all could be eventually traded

For the starters...
1)Mussina has really come through im proud of him...
2)Joba and Wang are solid starters but we need an Ace...
3)Wang showed last year in the playoffs he cant be our #1 pitcher he's too hot and cold, if his sinker isnt good were finished
4)Pettite might be in his last year as we speak which means...yes BIG TIME LEFTY STARTER is a MUST
5) Rasner and Ponson have come through nicely but they might eventually fold the 2nd half of this year or next year they arent as reliable as most starters but i hope they do good.
So basically your looking at
Relievers
Edwar Ramirez
Jose Veras
Bruney
Not sure which one-Alabadejo/Humberto Sanchez/Billy Traber (he's the only lefty)
Set up- Farnsworth
Closer- Mariano

Starters
1Possible Lefty Ace
2Wang
3Joba
4Mussina
5Rasner/Ponson

jpz17
Jul 15, 2008, 09:59
wrong Pettitte guarenteed hes pitching next year, Ponson will be gone after this year I think. Hughes will DOMINATE!!!!!!!! and Kenedy will pitch like Musinna, Albaladejo will kick butt, Bruney will dominate at set-up. Hawkins will leave. Humberto Sanchez will be our #2 reliver. Jose Veras is proven to be decent. Kei Igawa (bust) could be a decent long reliver

Paul1355
Jul 16, 2008, 00:54
wrong Pettitte guarenteed hes pitching next year, Ponson will be gone after this year I think. Hughes will DOMINATE!!!!!!!! and Kenedy will pitch like Musinna, Albaladejo will kick butt, Bruney will dominate at set-up. Hawkins will leave. Humberto Sanchez will be our #2 reliver. Jose Veras is proven to be decent. Kei Igawa (bust) could be a decent long reliver


WHOA you obviously think that every Yankees player will come out to be Mariano lol.
1) Pettite never guranteed anything he said that IF HIS ARM IS GOOD he would like to open in the new stadium next year.
2)Ponson wll prob be gone but i liked his come back...proves my point to get another top starter.
3)Hughes BLEW this year and suddenly looked like a bust...absolutely no gurantee he will "DOMINATE" after seeing his low velocity, no wins performance this year.
4)Kennedy will be like Mussina? When he stops getting rocked ill start to trust him again.
5) Bruney set up???? He has a BIG PROBLEM=WALKS PEOPLE! not good for a set up man..hes a solid middle reliever with great stuff.
6) Humberto is good and i have high hopes for him
7) Alabdejo will kick butt....as a reliever.
8) Jose Veras isnt decent...he is a very good reliever, best middle man we have right now.
9) Kei Igawa is a minor leager

jpz17
Jul 16, 2008, 10:21
WHOA you obviously think that every Yankees player will come out to be Mariano lol.
1) Pettite never guranteed anything he said that IF HIS ARM IS GOOD he would like to open in the new stadium next year.
2)Ponson wll prob be gone but i liked his come back...proves my point to get another top starter.
3)Hughes BLEW this year and suddenly looked like a bust...absolutely no gurantee he will "DOMINATE" after seeing his low velocity, no wins performance this year.
4)Kennedy will be like Mussina? When he stops getting rocked ill start to trust him again.
5) Bruney set up???? He has a BIG PROBLEM=WALKS PEOPLE! not good for a set up man..hes a solid middle reliever with great stuff.
6) Humberto is good and i have high hopes for him
7) Alabdejo will kick butt....as a reliever.
8) Jose Veras isnt decent...he is a very good reliever, best middle man we have right now.
9) Kei Igawa is a minor leager

pettitte said as long as he is healthy, there is no way he won't play next year!
Veras is good, I saw it in him last year
BRUNEY IS THE BEST RELIVER WE GOT! besides MO
Humberto could be the next closer
Albaladejo will be good
HUGHES HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY INJURED SINCE SPRING TRAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS A FUTURE CY YOUNG!

Paul1355
Jul 16, 2008, 20:38
pettitte said as long as he is healthy, there is no way he won't play next year!
Veras is good, I saw it in him last year
BRUNEY IS THE BEST RELIVER WE GOT! besides MO
Humberto could be the next closer
Albaladejo will be good
HUGHES HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY INJURED SINCE SPRING TRAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS A FUTURE CY YOUNG!


as i said before dont think every pitcher will turn out to be the next Mariano...you have high hopes for too many players
Bruney is a good reliever i said he has great stuff but not as a set up man he's too wild

Our main agrument was Hughes who hasnt played in a while since his winless pitching this year...if he does not improve...i see a bust...if he doesnt get his velocity up....i see a bust...if he doesnt get a damn win...bust and trade will happen im now thinking of holding him for Santana which now seems like the logical choice but i liked Hughes too b4 this year...but this year he made me question a little bit.

metrocard
Jul 17, 2008, 20:54
Dan Giese is very solid, keep him.
Edwar Ramirez is one of our most talented relievers with a lot of room for improvement, very efficient pitcher with a lot of nasty stuff, keep him.
Jose Veras `1.12 WHIP, nasty pitcher doesn't give up a lot of hits either, keep him. Only 27 or 28.
Jonathan Albaladejo is very young at 26 with a lot of potential to be a good reliever, big pitcher with a lot of movement on his pitches, keep him.
Ross Ohlendorf is ****ing garbage.
Fransworth has done well, but can't be trusted.
Mo is God.

Our bull pen is tight like a nun's vagina.


Our starting 5

Mussina
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte
????

Hughes has shown complete inconstancy and isn't ready for MLB batters.
Kennedy is garbage.
Darrell Rasner is nothing special.

We need another starter.


We got a ****ing BUM in Richie Sexson who hasn't done anything in two years. He slugs under .400 and can't hit a baseball. This is as bad as when the Mets acquired Mo Vaughn.

Paul1355
Jul 17, 2008, 22:50
Dan Giese is very solid, keep him.
Edwar Ramirez is one of our most talented relievers with a lot of room for improvement, very efficient pitcher with a lot of nasty stuff, keep him.
Jose Veras `1.12 WHIP, nasty pitcher doesn't give up a lot of hits either, keep him. Only 27 or 28.
Jonathan Albaladejo is very young at 26 with a lot of potential to be a good reliever, big pitcher with a lot of movement on his pitches, keep him.
Ross Ohlendorf is ****ing garbage.
Fransworth has done well, but can't be trusted.
Mo is God.

Our bull pen is tight like a nun's vagina.


Our starting 5

Mussina
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte
????

Hughes has shown complete inconstancy and isn't ready for MLB batters.
Kennedy is garbage.
Darrell Rasner is nothing special.

We need another starter.


We got a ****ing BUM in Richie Sexson who hasn't done anything in two years. He slugs under .400 and can't hit a baseball. This is as bad as when the Mets acquired Mo Vaughn.


I agree on this as i siad many times we not only need another starter we need an ACE. And Sexson wasnt a good move we dont need him...we have to get right handers in trades...trade Melky and Hughes and watch all the possibilites come in from other teams...many teams love both Melky and Hughes. Check out the Pirates with Jason Bay and Damaso Marte the Prates are a team to trade with. Even if you throw in another guy form the Pirates like lets see a starter? Ian Snell, Zach Dukes....better yet

Melky, Hughes, and Betemit for Xavier Nady, Damaso Marte, Adam Laroache, and a top minor leauge starting pitcer.

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 17, 2008, 22:52
this is as bad as when the Mets acquired Mo Vaughn.
Not quite. When the mets signed vaughn, he was the highest payed player in the league. Sexson was just signed to the minimum salary and a one year deal, so it cant do as much long term damage as the vaughn and alomar signings did for the mets.

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 17, 2008, 22:57
Mets should deff. bring back jay payton! They need insurance right now at the corner outfield spots with church's head issues. Omar probably would have to give up that much for him.

Or, they could bring back Xavier Nady. He was traded in despiration for a reliever when duaner sanchez got into a car accidnet the day before the deadline. But, they would probaly have to give up a guy like neise to get him.

And possibly, they could be able to bring in Matt Holliday. I really dont see how this oculd happen. The mets farm system has been depleted becasue of the johan trade so they really have no one to give up for him. And i have no clue why the rockies would wanna get rid of him?

Paul1355
Jul 18, 2008, 01:01
Mets should deff. bring back jay payton! They need insurance right now at the corner outfield spots with church's head issues. Omar probably would have to give up that much for him.

Or, they could bring back Xavier Nady. He was traded in despiration for a reliever when duaner sanchez got into a car accidnet the day before the deadline. But, they would probaly have to give up a guy like neise to get him.

And possibly, they could be able to bring in Matt Holliday. I really dont see how this oculd happen. The mets farm system has been depleted becasue of the johan trade so they really have no one to give up for him. And i have no clue why the rockies would wanna get rid of him?

As i said before Met fans...Omar Minaya doesnt want white guys...he's a horrible GM he traded away Nady and i dont think Nady wants to come back..and the rockies are gonna want alot for Holliday, Omar wont do it unless their washed up Hispanic players...castillo,alou,delgado,even beltran is not worth 10 mil. Get a new GM then your moves might happen.

metrocard
Jul 18, 2008, 08:49
As i said before Met fans...Omar Minaya doesnt want white guys...he's a horrible GM he traded away Nady and i dont think Nady wants to come back..and the rockies are gonna want alot for Holliday, Omar wont do it unless their washed up Hispanic players...castillo,alou,delgado,even beltran is not worth 10 mil. Get a new GM then your moves might happen.

Fall back.

Mets wouldn't have the talent they have their if it wasn't for Omar. Wasn't the Mets in the NLCS not too long ago? They talent is definately there and they're on a win streak. If Pedro had been more healthy, you're looking at a dominant NL East team. Omar is one of the best GM's in the MLB, and you're looking too much into race. Castillo, Alou, Delgado, and Beltran are VERY GOOD baseball players period.

He got Santana over, one of the most talented and skilled pitchers in the world who normally has a better 2nd half than first.

Beltran is on pace for 30 HR/30 SB season, how the hell is that washed up? You're wrong.

Delgado has 18 HRs and 55 RBIs, he will improve, who the hell is better at first base?

Fernando Tatis is batting over .300 and has been a steal for the Mets.

Duaner Sanchez and Pedro Felaciano are two of the Mets best relievers.

I don't understand the bull**** from your post, a lot of the good players in the MLB happend to be from spanish speaking countries, whats the big ****ing deal about that?

Mets are FIRST in their division with a 10 game win streak. Omar has done a god job from taking one of the worst teams in the MLB to a competitive MLB team.

Stop hating son.

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 18, 2008, 10:08
As i said before Met fans...Omar Minaya doesnt want white guys...he's a horrible GM he traded away Nady and i dont think Nady wants to come back..and the rockies are gonna want alot for Holliday, Omar wont do it unless their washed up Hispanic players...castillo,alou,delgado,even beltran is not worth 10 mil. Get a new GM then your moves might happen.
and alou was not washed up, he hit like .340 last year, he's just injury prone. and there is no way beltran is washed up up-the dude is just entering his prime.

jpz17
Jul 18, 2008, 10:45
no beltran used to hit .300 or so with lots of sbs, he can't do that anymore. and like I said before..
HUGHES HAS BEEN INJURED SINCE SPRING AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT!

metrocard
Jul 18, 2008, 11:56
Beltran always been a .280 - .290 hitter.

JPZ, just stop with those type of post.

jpz17
Jul 18, 2008, 12:24
<table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>BA</td><td>HR</td><td>RBI</td><td>OBP</td><td>SLG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>.267</td><td>15</td><td>66</td><td>.363</td><td>.474</td></tr></tbody></table>
Thats not .290.....

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">SEASON</td> <td width="5&#37;">TEAM</td> <td width="5%">G</td> <td width="5%">AB</td> <td width="5%">R</td> <td width="5%">H</td> <td width="5%">2B</td> <td width="5%">3B</td> <td width="5%">HR</td> <td width="5%">RBI</td> <td width="5%">BB</td> <td width="5%">SO</td> <td width="5%">SB</td> <td width="5%">CS</td> <td width="5%">AVG</td> <td width="5%">OBP</td> <td width="5%">SLG</td> <td width="5%">OPS</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">1998</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>14</td> <td>58</td> <td>12</td> <td>16</td> <td>5</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>7</td> <td>3</td> <td>12</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>.276</td> <td>.317</td> <td>.466</td> <td>.783</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">1999</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>156</td> <td>663</td> <td>112</td> <td>194</td> <td>27</td> <td>7</td> <td>22</td> <td>108</td> <td>46</td> <td>123</td> <td>27</td> <td>8</td> <td>.293</td> <td>.337</td> <td>.454</td> <td>.791</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2000</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>98</td> <td>372</td> <td>49</td> <td>92</td> <td>15</td> <td>4</td> <td>7</td> <td>44</td> <td>35</td> <td>69</td> <td>13</td> <td>0</td> <td>.247</td> <td>.309</td> <td>.366</td> <td>.675</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2001</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>155</td> <td>617</td> <td>106</td> <td>189</td> <td>32</td> <td>12</td> <td>24</td> <td>101</td> <td>52</td> <td>120</td> <td>31</td> <td>1</td> <td>.306</td> <td>.362</td> <td>.514</td> <td>.876</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2002</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>162</td> <td>637</td> <td>114</td> <td>174</td> <td>44</td> <td>7</td> <td>29</td> <td>105</td> <td>71</td> <td>135</td> <td>35</td> <td>7</td> <td>.273</td> <td>.346</td> <td>.501</td> <td>.847</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2003</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>141</td> <td>521</td> <td>102</td> <td>160</td> <td>14</td> <td>10</td> <td>26</td> <td>100</td> <td>72</td> <td>81</td> <td>41</td> <td>4</td> <td>.307</td> <td>.389</td> <td>.522</td> <td>.911</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2004</td> <td align="left">KC</td> <td>69</td> <td>266</td> <td>51</td> <td>74</td> <td>19</td> <td>2</td> <td>15</td> <td>51</td> <td>37</td> <td>44</td> <td>14</td> <td>3</td> <td>.278</td> <td>.367</td> <td>.534</td> <td>.901</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2004</td> <td align="left">Hou</td> <td>90</td> <td>333</td> <td>70</td> <td>86</td> <td>17</td> <td>7</td> <td>23</td> <td>53</td> <td>55</td> <td>57</td> <td>28</td> <td>0</td> <td>.258</td> <td>.368</td> <td>.559</td> <td>.927</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2005</td> <td align="left">NYM</td> <td>151</td> <td>582</td> <td>83</td> <td>155</td> <td>34</td> <td>2</td> <td>16</td> <td>78</td> <td>56</td> <td>96</td> <td>17</td> <td>6</td> <td>.266</td> <td>.330</td> <td>.414</td> <td>.744</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2006</td> <td align="left">NYM</td> <td>140</td> <td>510</td> <td>127</td> <td>140</td> <td>38</td> <td>1</td> <td>41</td> <td>116</td> <td>95</td> <td>99</td> <td>18</td> <td>3</td> <td>.275</td> <td>.388</td> <td>.594</td> <td>.982</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2007</td> <td align="left">NYM</td> <td>144</td> <td>554</td> <td>93</td> <td>153</td> <td>33</td> <td>3</td> <td>33</td> <td>112</td> <td>69</td> <td>111</td> <td>23</td> <td>2</td> <td>.276</td> <td>.353</td> <td>.525</td> <td>.878</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2008</td> <td align="left">NYM</td> <td>95</td> <td>359</td> <td>69</td> <td>96</td> <td>23</td> <td>3</td> <td>15</td> <td>66</td> <td>55</td> <td>62</td> <td>15</td> <td>1</td> <td>.267</td> <td>.363</td> <td>.474</td> <td>.837</td></tr></tbody></table>

look at the years he was hitting .300, stolen bases with KC, 30, 30, 40, then he went dooooown

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 18, 2008, 12:42
no beltran used to hit .300 or so with lots of sbs, he can't do that anymore. and like I said before..
HUGHES HAS BEEN INJURED SINCE SPRING AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT!
he doesnt styela bases becauss he wants to give delgado chances to hit. look at his number of attempts.

2008- 15 sb's-1 caught stealing.

thats been his whole career. picking the right spot. the only reason he had so much more in KC is because there was no other player in that lineup with the offense that beltran had.

metrocard
Jul 18, 2008, 14:28
Beltran is a career .280 hitter.

At best he'll give you .290 - .300

at worst he'll give you .260 - .270


Beltran can HIT .300 again if he has a good season, he's very capable of one more .300 season.

Dude is still legit and a damn good center fielder.

Paul1355
Jul 18, 2008, 16:06
Fall back.

Mets wouldn't have the talent they have their if it wasn't for Omar. Wasn't the Mets in the NLCS not too long ago? They talent is definately there and they're on a win streak. If Pedro had been more healthy, you're looking at a dominant NL East team. Omar is one of the best GM's in the MLB, and you're looking too much into race. Castillo, Alou, Delgado, and Beltran are VERY GOOD baseball players period.

He got Santana over, one of the most talented and skilled pitchers in the world who normally has a better 2nd half than first.

Beltran is on pace for 30 HR/30 SB season, how the hell is that washed up? You're wrong.

Delgado has 18 HRs and 55 RBIs, he will improve, who the hell is better at first base?

Fernando Tatis is batting over .300 and has been a steal for the Mets.

Duaner Sanchez and Pedro Felaciano are two of the Mets best relievers.

I don't understand the bull**** from your post, a lot of the good players in the MLB happend to be from spanish speaking countries, whats the big ****ing deal about that?

Mets are FIRST in their division with a 10 game win streak. Omar has done a god job from taking one of the worst teams in the MLB to a competitive MLB team.

Stop hating son.


Dont forget the Mets had the money to sign anyone they want. And the yankees didnt get Santana because Cashmn thought Hughes was the future and the Twins wanted Hughes and a other top prospects which wasnt gonna happen at that time. Yea the Mets FINALLY started winning u forgot they were in the .500 range all year. ANd their collapse last year was the funniest thing ive ever seen losing to the Nationals 0-1. Think about it the National League East is a dissapointment u have the Phillies who if they ever got moving could rape the Mets but theyre team just needs a new manager i think something is wrong there. The Nationals are one of the worst teams in baseball. The Marlins are still over .500 even though they did so much better start of the year and i see them falling apart. Atalnta is under 500 with Chipper Jones hitting .376 I forgot to mention Orlando Hernandez 7 million a year. ANd Beltran is batting .267 not .290 yes he's a good fielder but not worth his 18 million dollar salary. Never said Beltran was a washup.

metrocard
Jul 18, 2008, 16:10
Omar is a better GM than Cashman, and I'm a Yankee fan. Cashman wouldn't trade average prospects for the most elite pitcher in the AL. Omar took the opportunity and Mets are now benefit from it.

Beltran's range is .280-.290

He's not finishing the season as a .270 hitter, he's too good.

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jul 18, 2008, 19:33
overall I like omar and I like who he brings in but to me, the salarys just don't make sense sometimes. el duque and moises alou are making more money this year then they have in their whole career. of course he is overpaying some guys but if thats what it takes to be a winner then by all means go ahead

Paul1355
Jul 19, 2008, 00:57
if the Mets go to the world series then it tells me that Omar isnt that bad and Randolph was actualy the problem than Omar himself for getting the players that couldnt gel together. The Mets can be the best team in baseball but i think Omar has handled it bad the past few years the Mets could have been alot beter with the money they had.

jpz17
Jul 20, 2008, 10:53
money doesn't always buy a w.s. Look at the Yankees and look at Florida in 03

Paul1355
Jul 20, 2008, 17:47
money doesn't always buy a w.s. Look at the Yankees and look at Florida in 03


I know Cashman isnt my favorite GM never said he was. But whoever handles the Yankee farm system gets an A+, whoever hired the scouts gets alot of credit for the future of this team.

TunerAddict
Jul 20, 2008, 20:31
As i said before Met fans...Omar Minaya doesnt want white guys...he's a horrible GM he traded away Nady and i dont think Nady wants to come back..and the rockies are gonna want alot for Holliday, Omar wont do it unless their washed up Hispanic players...castillo,alou,delgado,even beltran is not worth 10 mil. Get a new GM then your moves might happen.


Lol. Do you actually know anything?

jpz17
Jul 20, 2008, 22:26
Cashman is the one who is keeping the players, Hank wants to trade them for washed up stars

Paul1355
Jul 21, 2008, 21:26
Cashman is the one who is keeping the players, Hank wants to trade them for washed up stars


who is hank trying to get?

Paul1355
Jul 21, 2008, 21:27
Lol. Do you actually know anything?

read the argument i also included Orlando Hernandez after.

jpz17
Jul 21, 2008, 21:39
Hank is trying to get Xavier Nady

Paul1355
Jul 21, 2008, 21:50
Hank is trying to get Xavier Nady


you consider Nady a washed up star???? SAY WUT. Look at his stats man. And he never played a full season as a starter. I would make the move for Nady, his batting average at .323 is very high and he has power with 12 HR and 56 RBI's..i'd trade him over a guy like Melky. And we can throw in another player for some prospects the Pirates are ****ty but come up with good young talent. Washed up hell no, he's only 29 and is gona get better. He's a solid bat idk about his fielding but if you trade Melky you can put Damon in Center, Nady in Left, and ABreu right with Gardner back up. And trade Matsui when he gets back cuz he is a great hitter but we have enough outfielders and he is becoming a big injury guy. Nady aint washed up.