'Unbelieveable' doesn't even describe WTF happened tonight bro (last night now I guess). Joe G has had this guy's back all ****ing year long..Even had his back in his post-game press conference tonight more or less, saying things like, "we've all been there," "if a player comes to me and says he needs a mental health day, I'm gonna give it to him," and finally when asked if Posada let the team down, should address the team personally or acted insubordinately, Joe basically said he didn't want to discuss it anymore and instead wanted to shift gears and talk about the actual game. Which was completely understandable, after talking about this nonsense for several minutes.
Posada put everyone in a terrible spot yesterday--Joe, the team, even Cashman..Look, Posada was NEVER one of my favorite players to begin with. I've always respected him as one of the originals and recognize that he's been a good player for us over the years..Not great but good. And I was always very happy for he and his wife that his little boy was okay after he was born with the cranium problem..But how he acted tonight was deplorable. And then to make matters worse, to stand there at his locker, after he let his team/manager & fans down, in a big series against a hated division rival no less, and talk about some phony back "injury," criticise Cashman (WTF did you want the guy to say when they stuck a Goddamn microphone in his face and asked him about this mess, Jorge?), and comment on being 'disrespected,' I mean this guy's gotta be kidding me..He felt disrespected?!?! This guy let everyone and their mother down, man!!! And to think: they've been handling this guy with kid gloves for weeks!!! Dude should be fined and benched for a substantial period..MINIMUM..No other way around it..I actually want him replaced indefinitely, effective IMMEDIATELY!!! Dude, Jorge, you're lucky you're even still in the lineup, the way you're hitting brah. He's hurting this team, bottom line. Funny thing is, he had Joe 100% in his corner the whole time..At least now, hopefully, he's made this an easy decision for Girardi, one Joe's obviously been struggling with. With a stunt like this, something I feel will follow him around for a long time now, esp. after he had a chance to make good after the game somewhat but chose not to, I think he can kiss any future managing opportunity goodbye, something I felt he may have aspired to do eventually. Who the F would hire this guy as a manager now after a stunt like this? I certainly wouldn't... He better come to the ballpark today prepared to apologize AND HOPE the Yankees, Joe, Cash and the fans accept. I tell ya right now, I will, provided he comes back today in the proper frame of mind and mans up to this ****storm he created..That's how bad I think what he pulled last night was..That's what needs to be done. And then he needs to take his medicine like a man, whatever punishment Joe and Cash see fit to hand down. If not, if he comes in today like nothing happened, expecting to be in the lineup penciled into his normal spot...****, dude's got another thing coming to him. I mean, Jesus, we need this Mickey Mouse nonsense now with how badly we've been playin' all of a sudden?? And from one of our veteran "leaders" no less? What a letdown, man. WOW..
To Jorge's credit he was contrite & apologized for his actions last night. But in the end words won't mean much, he needs to start hitting if he wants to earn my respect back again. Otherwise he needs to retire. I don't want to see him forcing his way into the lineup because of his own pride & hurting the team with those weak AB's he's been putting up all year. He has zero hits against left handed pitching this year. That's just unbelievable. We mine as well have a pitcher as our DH this season if he keeps this up.
& while we're on the topic, some of the other guys on this team need to start pulling their weight & hitting too. It's unbelievable that we haven't lost more games than we have this season with guys like Swisher, Jeter, Teix, Jorge, ARod & Gardner struggling the way they have for much of the season. At least Jeter & Gardner have started to pick it up of late hitting wise. Hopefully the other guys can follow suit. We need our bats to give our pitching more run support. It's a joke that CC Sabathia only has 3 wins with the way he's pitched. He should have at least 5 or 6 by my recollection.
Sooooooooooooooo disappointing watching this team lose these last couple of games in Seattle. 3-0 lead and a 3-1 lead against two good pitchers and we can't add to it and then can't hold it...Hard to even put your finger on what the damn problem is. There are several: Posada not hitting continues to kill me. How long do we go with our primary DH hitting .170? This slump Swisher's in is really starting to piss me off too. WTF Swish? Snap out of it already!!! And A-Rod just isn't A-Rod..Swish and A-Rod (esp. A-Rod) are supposed to be major power threats in this lineup. When right, we're talking a 30 HR guy and a 40-50 HR guy...Starters not going deep enough (and pitching poorly), bullpen not holding leads (Soriano going down really hurts, but he wasn't pitching that great anyway, definitely not good enough to open his mouth the way he did---I think he would've come around though. Now we have to wait 2 months to get this guy back)...I mean it's really a mess right now. We just don't look championship caliber at all. And what kills me -- nobody else in this damn AL East looks that great to me either. This division is right there for the taking. It's up for grabs..When the hell are we gonna step up and take it?!?!? Who's gonna win this thing in the end? You get the feeling it won't be the team that plays great but rather the team that plays the least terrible and stumbles to the finish line...
Just some minor tweaks I'd look to make:
(1) Purchase the damn contract of Jorge Vazquez already and add him to the 40-man. The guy to cut off the 40-man is Gustavo Molina. WTF are we holding onto this guy for?!?!?! Cervelli's back and we have more than enough catching depth down below God forbid. Vazquez's numbers down at triple A right now: .296, 18 HRs (leads the International League), 45 RBI (also 1st in that league). He strikes out a lot (56 in only 179 ABs so far) but I don't care man..We need the additional threat in the lineup. A-Rod and Swisher just aren't hitting for power like they're capable of and Posada's done. To make room on the active roster send down Lance Pendleton. Why do we need this guy when we have Luis Ayala and Hector Noesi? I understand the need for a long man but either of these guys (or a combination of the two) is more than enough for long-man duties on that rare occasion. Our top bullpen guys all need their regular work to stay sharp anyway. The much bigger problem here is getting out starters to all go 6-7+ innings and to pitch effective. Burnett going 5 and change the other night and Ivan Nova only going 3.2 innings last night is UNACCEPTABLE.
(2) I don't care for Boone Logan as our only lefty. We need to upgrade this area pronto. This guy stinks. When he first hit the scene with us, he was 95+ with the heat and his slider was much more effective. Now, he seems to have lost his way big-time. I don't have any confidence in this guy to get big lefties out in big spots. We need to do better here..I'd like to finally give lefty Wilkins Arias a shot. Over 30 yrs old and has never pitched in the bigs. Here's his track record: [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...]. Not bad at all. Looks like he can really neutralize lefthanders and also pitch effective against righties as well. How the hell is he not at least pitching at AAA? Waste of a guy Nardi Contreras says has a rubber arm & really worked hard to perfect all three of his pitches--fastball, slider and changeup. Like Vazquez, we'd have to purchase his contract and then add him to the 40-man. I'd swap him in for Chris Dickerson. He'd also take Dickerson's place on the 25-man...Why are we carrying Dickerson on the major league roster anyway??? We have Jones as our 4th OFer and Eduardo Nunez can also play the OF. And this is all if we want to go with 2 lefties. Otherwise just bump Logan and add Arias..
I dunno man..Not much we can do right now I guess..Kinda is what it is right now I suppose. Just have to sit back and hope key guys suddenly find it and start playing like they're capable of...I'd look to shake things up a little though..Don't piss this division and season away...This division needs to be won right now.. Can't be pissin' these winable games away like they've been doing..Gimmie this guy Vazquez and let's see if he can have a big impact with his bat and then let's take a look at Wilkins Arias and see if he can get tough lefties out late in games. Start small with these two moves..I honestly believe two little moves like this could go a long way. Cashman and Girardi need to believe it.
Great performance out of Bartolo Colon today, 4 hit shutout, can't get much better than that. We really needed back to back games from CC & Colon to get us back on track. Teix & Grandyman are providing some big pop in the lineup, Arod is starting to break out of his funk it seems as well. Jorge's just lost it, I think he retires after this season. Joe should just use Andruw Jones as the fulltime DH for the rest of the season & keep Jorge on the bench for spot pinch hitting duty. Only problem there is Jorge's a horrible pinch hitter his entire career. We basically have a $13 million dollar bench coach, but that's the risk they took when they signed him to that 4 year contract. At least Swish is showing some signs of life with a HR today & one he got robbed of the day before. With the way our bullpen is pitching I'm less concerned with Boone Logan as our only lefty, I think Robertson & Joba have done a fine job for the most part all year. Mo is always Mo, you know what you're gonna get from him. Hopefully Soriano comes back healthy soon & lives up to that contract we signed him to, & Phil Hughes can get back into the action & get back his mojo.
Just read on yankees.com that Joba's elbow is worse than first thought. Looks like he'll need Tommy John Surgery and will have to be shut down for the rest of the season. Wow, are we knicked up or what? Jeez, what next? Bullpen went from a real strength entering the season to a major question mark now. I guess when Hughes is ready, he'll probably perform the short-man role he had a few years ago, unless that's too much to ask of him too soon..What a mess..As if failing to show up against these Red Sox wasn't bad enough...Need a real good game outta CC tonight, weather permiting.
Scratch any idea of Hughes going to the pen now that Bartolo Colon just left the game with a hamstring injury. That could keep him out for a while. Hope it's not serious & just a tweak. He's been pitching so great for us of late, would really hurt to lose him AND Joba for any length of time. Unless Cashman can swing a trade, he might have to rush one of our young phenoms up to the majors before they're ready. Banuelos & Betances better be ready if they're called upon.
Gotta say, Posada's been a hell of a lot better of late in the DH role. Gotta give the man credit. I had a fork stuck in this guy, I thought he was finished but over the last month or so, he's been a different player. No longer the automatic out he was the first couple of months to open up the season. The offense as a whole has been much better of late. Great to see.
They're saying Colon should be back sometime over the weekend against the Mets (Sat. maybe). Much quicker return than I expected. Not even gonna make a rehab start. Right back to game action. Awesome..What a shot in the arm that's gonna be.
Speaking of rehab start, Hughes just made his 3rd and looked very good, consistently hitting 93 MPH with his fastball, topping out at 94. That's great. Velocity no longer looks to be an issue. Hughes at 93-94 will win games and that's the bottom line..Think about it: this team, in first place in our division and in possession of the 2nd best record in the majors behind the Phillies last time I checked, is on the verge of getting Bartolo Colon, Phil Hughes, Derek Jeter and eventually Rafael Soriano and Eric Chavez back. Demaso Marte even "began playing catch June 10th" so maybe he's not that far behind these guys. Banuelos and Betances are both pitching well in the minors -- perhaps those two plus Jesus Montero get the call up this Sept and get their feet wet....With all these reinforcements coming and the team playing well anyway, it's hard not to feel good about this club right now..We'll have to see how things go but as of right now, there may be no need to go out and make a deal this summer...We've got everything we need coming: our captain going for 3000 hits, 2 very good options for the rotation, 1 for the bullpen (with perhaps another lefty option too in Marte to go along with Logan possibly---two lefties available in that bullpen everyday would be a HUGE plus for Joe. Worked out great when we beat the Phillies in the WS), and a very good utility infielder that can still field & hit...
I just wonder how Freddy Garcia's gonna take the demotion when Colon and Hughes both come back. You figure it'll be between he and Nova...Knowing Nova's here for the long haul (and he hasn't been terrible), I doubt they **** with him. They're gonna want to keep building that kid up, I doubt they're gonna want to take a step back with him..I think Garcia's gonna be the one to get bumped...Perfect world, Garcia doesn't deserve to lose his spot in the rotation -- he's been good. He's kept the Yanks in almost every game he's pitched..Nevertheless, I think he's gonna be the one to go--I wonder how he takes it. Hope it won't be too much of a problem..Otherwise, I'm happy where we're at right now..We're in good shape entering the all-star break.
Ubaldo Jimenez. What'd ya think fellas? Just saw his name mentioned in today's Newsday once again and I just read on his wikipedia page that the Yankees have been interested in trading for him since at least early July. I'm behind it 100% -- just gotta figure out how much is enough. We definitely have the pieces to make this trade. But what gets it done? The guys I'd be willing to part with are Montero, Hughes and Brackman. If we could ever get this guy built around that package, without surrendering Banuelos and Betances (and Nova), it'd be as big a homerun as there ever was...Truth be told, I couldn't see Colorado settling for anything less than Montero (maybe Gary Sanchez instead) + Banuelos or Betances, probably all 3 plus God knows what else..Best case scenario, we'd be damn lucky to hang onto 1 of the 2 top killer Bs, either Manny B or Dellin. Steep price but I think you do it anyway. I think Jimenez is that good and that worth it.
He's talented and young enough to warrant surrendering that much, I think anyway. If we dealt for him by the deadline, he might have 1 more year before his contract's up -- I think he signed a modest 4-yr, $10M deal before the 2009 season. A steal for the Rockies at the time, given his ability. This time around, he's gonna get paid BIG. Sabathia-type money maybe? Who knows? I say at least in the $100M range..The Yanks will have to break out the checkbook for this guy eventually, as well as CC who has an opt-out this off-season that he most certainly executes. Gonna cost us a ton (players to surrender and amount it'll take to ink Ubaldo's next deal) but I think we gotta do it. We do this and extend CC, we'd be cementing a playoff berth each season for the next 5-7 years. At least. I guess that's what it's all about, right? I know one thing: we land this guy and I'd be a lot more comfortable matching up with Boston in an AL playoff series and then say the Phillies in the WS, God willing we get that far.
Haven't heard anything imminent yet, just little snippets here and there for a couple of weeks now which makes me believe something's gotta be brewin'. Would you guys be behind this move? Just wanted to get your thoughts.
Tell ya what, a nice secondary move that we might be able to pull off before the deadline ---> bring back Hideki Matsui for the stretch drive. Just something to consider -- that As team is going nowhere (currently 44-57, 14 games back of 1st place in the AL West after losing to us today at the Stadium). Matsui hasn't had a great year statistically but he's had a hot July, going 19-58 for a .328 clip, including 5-5 today against the Yanks. Couple that with the following: he had a decent yr with the Angels last year (which tells me he's not done yet), the fact that he's thrived here before and on the biggest stage possible--winning WS MVP against the Phils, he'd probably love to come back and actually play in some meaningful games, and would be welcomed back with open arms by fans and teammates alike. If you look at the side-by-side stats between Godzilla and Posada, you won't see much of a difference but I believe Matsui has a lot more left in the tank than Jorgie..
Either a move we make in conjuction with a trade for Ubaldo Jimenez or something seperate if that trade with the Rockies never materializes. Matsui by himself would be a nice little move for us to make..Matsui/Andrew Bailey or Matsui/Fautino De Los Santos are slightly bigger packages we might be able to get Oakland to go for provided the Jimenez move isn't there and we still have all our trade chips available to us...Bailey's young but a proven back-end-of-the-pen stopper that's probably up for a contract soon (a price the As might not be willing to meet)...And this kid De Los Santos looks very promising to me. Electric stuff, hitting upper 90s with the heat the past couple of days and showing a real tight slider. Between the two though the As probably look to hold onto De Los Santos and would probably be more open to dealing Bailey in order to escape committing any kind of substantial money to him long-term.
As much as I would love to make a move for Jimenez & Matsui, I don't think either are in the cards for us this summer. Jimenez would cost an arm & a leg in terms of prospects & Cashman has been conspicuously stingy when it comes to trading away prospects in recent years for any 1 player. Everyone knows the Yankees are looking for starting pitching, which means the price gouging will be in full effect when Cashman goes looking around for bargains. More likely look for a back end of the rotation type of player to be had on a waiver claim next month. A vet who can eat up some innings & who's team is looking to dump his expiring salary for the rest of the year. I think that's the type of player Cashman will have his eyes peeled for this summer.
As for Matsui-san, I see the Yankees wanting to keep the DH position open so that guys can get half days off whenever possible. A-Rod has been breaking down in recent years & Teix has also needed a spell from time to time, so Cash likely won't make any deals for another bat unless it's a significant bat for a bargain basement price. Matsui, while we all love him, is no longer an impact type of bat anymore at this stage in his career. I don't see it happening.
Hey, maybe bro. Cash has shown that he values keeping the farm as stacked as possible at all times and may not look to relinquish what we all think it might take to bring a guy like Jimenez here. That's could be..Remember though, he had a pretty sizable package on the table for Cliff Lee before the Mariners traded him to Texas...But on the flip side, I see what you're saying: as the rumor goes, if Cash would've just substituted Eduardo Nunez for some infield prospect whose name escapes me (I remember the Mariners were questioning that kid's health at the time), we would've landed Lee in that trade...Hey, probably the best thing that every happened, because that wacko Lee probably would've bolted on us at the end of the season just like he did with Texas..
I know Lee's good, but this guy Jimenez is younger, arguably more powerful and more dominant and could be viewed as a better buy long-term. That could very well be the thinking too. I'd be willing to bet that if Cash didn't feel that way himself, others in the inner circle very well may, maybe even Hal..Then again my buddy keeps telling me, "forget this guy Jimenez bro. He's not what he was last year. Kershaw and King Felix are FAs soon (maybe the following year). One of those 2 is our guy." Who knows man. Maybe you do wait, and then target one of those guys instead..All I know is that I've been hearing from people and reading on the Net that we're supposedly very interested in UJ, so you know how that goes -- where there's smoke, there's usually fire..We'll have to see what happens..I wouldn't count us out on this thing. I guess it all comes down to how serious the Rockies are about trading him.
And I hear ya on Matsui --- now that you mentioned it, I do remember Joe saying coming into the season that he wouldn't be opposed to having a 'DH by committee' type of situation in order to keep all his big guns fresh..I'd like to see a little more stability at the position myself, but it's true that they could go that route.
Having seen Cash operate for awhile now, you know he's working the phones hard and probably working on something, maybe a few different things..We'll find out soon.
Big props go out to CC btw. Dude's been AWESOME lately. Pitching on another level. Probably the best he's pitched as a Yankee, maybe his entire career. The man's a true ACE in every sense of the word. An absolute horse. Too bad it rained tonight -- this guy was throwin' a friggin no-no man! Who knows WTF would've happened if it didn't start pouring and he got a chance to keep his rhythm. So pissed we gotta wait some more on Boston man -- I want those guys bad right now! BAD!! Can't wait 'til we play those clowns again!
I don't want to trade for Ubaldo Jimenez. Yeah, he's a good pitcher, but his velocity is down AND he plays in the NL West which is a joke division.
I don't want to trade for Matsui either. Simple reason: he's terrible. He's posting a .687 OPS right now. That's even worse than Jorge Posada. I'm not giving up trade bait for that ****.
The good thing is we have a potential comeback player of the year in Bartolo Colon...gonna be excited to see him possibly win it. I think he's deserving of it considering he hasn't really been a decent pitcher since 2005.
Fair enough. A good buddy of mine feels the same way.
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And damn good point on Bartolo -- maybe he does win CBPOY. Lord knows he deserves it. Minus a hiccup or two along the way, he's been tremendous right from spring training, no question.
Just wanted to chime in about last night's game against KC. Very unusual game..First off, I think that last night may have been the 1st game I remember seeing AJ Burnett make a big pitch in a big spot to get out of a jam since his first season with the Yankees. Can you imagine?? That's how long it's been..Got a huge groundball double play that really restored order last night, stopped the bleeding and allowed the Yanks to rally and retake the lead. Typical AJ though right before that -- Yanks stake him to a 2-0 lead and he promptly gives it right back (in the 5th inning I believe) but did get that huge double play to get out of it. I was shocked. LOL! Maybe we can build something with this guy now.
With this dude, it's 100% mental. Slight dip in the quality of his stuff from years past, but overall there's still more than enough there to win ballgames..This dude's gotta want it and pitch much more aggressive. We've seen this all before with certain guys --- the most frustrating pitchers to root for: a guys with A+ ability but no smarts and no balls..Absolutely ZERO mental toughness...The 1st sign of trouble, he wilts like a flower..I've never seen anything like it --- it's not like he's a rookie; this guys been around for a long time now..Hey last night was a nice change but I still don't trust him at all in a big spot. All the bullpen talk is nonsense btw -- he's a starting pitcher -- has always been a SP, and will always continue to be..Francesa was saying that the other day and I agree with him. From here on in though, and definitely in the playoffs, God willing we get there, Joe's gotta keep him on a very short leash...First sign of trouble, he's out..Just like that game in Chicago..I couldn't even care less about him qualifying for that win..It ain't about any one guy but team...I loved it when Joe yanked him from that game against the White Sox...Hey, he helped us win a championship a couple of years ago so there's not too much you can really say, but man, is he scary in a big spot or what? I can't wait until this guy's outta here..I think he's got 2 years to go after this one. I say you ship this guy right outta town the first chance you get if the opportunity ever presents itself..Even if we had to pay most of the freight..Betances just got promoted to AAA ball, following Banuelos not too long ago..These guys are both on the rise -- each should get the call up in Sept. and may actually be in the plans for next year. CC's not going anywhere and I think Hughes and Nova are here to stay. Not sure about Bartolo and Freddy. One, maybe both are brought back for next year to help bridge the gap to Betances/Banuelos. By that time, if there's anyway to send Burnett packing, I say you do it. Even if we had to eat salary and even if we barely got anything back for him..Whatever we could get for this guy would be gravy..The big thing is opening up his spot in the rotation for one of the young guns eventually. I just can't see this guy in pinstripes for the entire length of his contract.
Speaking of young talent and good "stuff," this kid Felipe Paulino for KC is a complete enigma. For some reason, his well above average arsenal just hasn't translated to winning games. Dude's got a golden arm though -- routinely hits 95, 96 on the gun (I've seen him hit 98 with his heater in the past) with a real tight slider. I suspect he hasn't been utilized properly in the bigs so far..I wonder if he would be better served pitching out of the pen as a late-inning power set-up guy or closer. He's got that kind of stuff. Very quietly, I might make an offer for this guy in the off-season if I were Cashman. Try to get him cheap off the poor record and performance..Change of scenery, a move to the bullpen, pitching in meaningful games...who knows. This dude has been designated for assignment by the Rockies in the past and is now scuffling big-time for the Royals in an Anthony Young kinda way. Funny how the Rockies just up & gave up on him, considering the kind of arm he has.. Makes you think how long KC plans on sticking with him. With Mo on the decline, adding another power arm on the cheap wouldn't necessarily be a bad move for next year (who knows how Joba bounces back from TJ surgery), if we could get him at a good price..I see a totally different pitcher with this kid Paulino out of the bullpen for some team. Just my 2 cents: stuff-wise alone, I see a much better talent than Joakim Soria, the current Royals closer. I see a lot of ability that hasn't been harnassed yet up to this point..