Beefing about acquiring STAT & Melo? Read this 1st.
Copied from another Knick forum. I love this post... puts everything in perspective. Enjoy!
My how quickly we forget. How short our memories become when just a few months ago we had no basketball; just prior we had NO IDEA of what the new CBA would entail let alone just when we would begin playing again.
I honestly can't handle NYK Fan continuing to rant about the Melo trade.
We got Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter, Chauncey Billups, and Corey Brewer from that trade.
We turned Billups into Tyson Chandler.
So your trade is Ray Felton, Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry for Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler, Shelden Williams, Corey Brewer, and Anthony Carter.*
Is it Melo's fault that Brewer, Shelden, and Carter aren't here? Shelden and Carter are both on minimum contracts.*
Do you realize that Anthony Randolph, Keleena Azabuike, and Ronny Turiaf and a 2nd round pick were the components of the David Lee trade? Considering that Azabuike has no knees and Turiaf is the worst rebounding center in the league, AR was definitely the highlight of that trade... But due to D'antoni's doghouse, what value did we eventually get out of him? Corey Brewer.... who we immediately waved. From "the key part of a trade for a 20/10 guy" to COREY BREWER fodder.*
Did we really lose Marbury for absolutely nothing? We couldn't have given him some burn and at least gotten a draft pick out of him?
Then there was the whole "let Mozgov rot on the bench after giving him 3 mil a season" thing, and the "let's get Jordan Hill because Brandon Jennings has an attitude problem and Ty Lawson isn't a forward".
This roster is NOT Glen's fault, it's NOT Melo's fault, and it's not even Dolan's fault. This is the house that D'antoni/Walsh built.
Anthony Randolph had NO trade value because he wasn't being played.
Mozgov had NO trade value to anyone besides Knicks fans because he was used so sparingly and spent so much time on the bench that "he must suck because he's a 7 footer getting 14 minutes a game on a team whose only other option at center is 6'9 RONNY TURIAF!".
I also don't know how people forget that Billups was verbally promised his option getting picked up after the trade went through. We talked about all summer long how we were stuck with his contract because Walsh/Dolan told him they would pick it up and didn't want to reneg. You can't get FAs to come if you disrespect veterans, especially after the way the CBA talks went. (In hindsight we shouldn't have picked it up, because he was a douche about the whole amnesty thing).*
And if we had Chauncey instead of Chandler, maybe we'd win more games right now, but it wouldn't mean anything because we'd be doomed the first time games started counting and we needed post defense beyond amare looking at people funny through his gucci glasses.*
The ONLY players that D'antoni built up were Lee, Felton, Gallinari, and Al Harrington. There are so many guys that we got absolutely nothing from and then got absolutely nothing for.*
If Melo comes in the offseason, we've got Felton and Gallinari instead of Tyson Chandler, and they'll both be on their way out the door at the end of the season in hopes of Chris Paul coming for a paycut. Right.*
If Melo doesn't come at all, we've got Felton and Gallinari instead of Melo and Chandler, and they'll both be on their way out the door at the end of the season in hopes of getting a center and Deron/Paul. The only center better than the one we got in the offseason is Dwight, who probably won't come to NY because he's mentally soft.*
I'm not a Dolan fan by any stretch, but this **** isn't his fault.
For all those second guessing our moves, please read and then stfu.
All the talent in the world, recent past and present, was and is compromised under M.O.A.
Let's call a spade a spade.