I have no problems Denvers individual players, I dont really like Gallo anymore but after him the nugget players are aiight. I like some of them, but as a team I hate them. Im fed up with the comparisons and the media sh*ttin on us for the Melo deal,which they have a right to. That makes it tougher to constantly be reminded of Denvers superiority. So f*ck them, i hope they lose. Kobe please rape those Colorodo b*tches. Gasol and Bynum need to stop playin like stinky puss.
I think the major difference between us and them is their coaching staff and the competence level of their front office. They are even fine with showing their inside stories to the world in "The Association". I have a hunch that with us this would be less of a documentary and more of a soap opera.
Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
That is reasonable, but I will disagree.
Originally Posted by blahwoop
You have 34 crap post and contributed nothing to these forum besides uneducated elementary sob stories for Anthony and poorly thought out opinions that are just too f*cking boring to read.
Originally Posted by MadJack
Me? I'm metrocard. Kiss the ring b*tch.
Wow, Denver got rid of Isomelonomia and are playing BEAUTIFUL TEAM BASKETBAL... WOW, blew out the Lakers, like Kobe blew out watered **** from his anus.
Even NBA's joke Javale McGee playing like a star. Karl's the man, was right about Melo. Turns scrubs to contenders, daaaawwwwwwmn!
Of course somehow people will turn this into a Melo thread
Im rooting for Denver i like that group of guys they got over there, especially Ty Lawson he's beasting and Mozgov looks great, he really improved alot.
Yall remember how hype that bitch Al Harrington was when we played them in the Garden he made a couple clutch baskets? Smh....
I'm cheering for former Knickerbocker Zack Randolph's team.
Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
If we wouldve selected F-Kenneth Faried in the draft, and payed the Hornets to select PG-Isaiah Thomas....... like I kept mentioning months before the 2011 draft night. Those two college players were what we needed to beat the Boston Celtics in a postseason series with Stat/Melo/Billups.
If we wouldve drafted Kenneth Faried the Denver Nuggets would not have made the playoffs without Wilson Chandler being in their rotation at the start of March.
Knicks fans got so high (myself too) on the departure of President Isiah Thomas...... we were to damn high to do any research on the reason Pacers owner kicked Donnie Walsh out the door when Walsh fired coach Rick Carlilse.
And the hangover from being so high we didnt bother to do any research on the reason Suns management kicked their winning DNP short-short rotation celebrity coach Dantoni out of the Phoenix territory.
Our coaching staff with Woodson at the helm is equal to the Denver Nuggets "NO playoff strategy" George Karl coaching staff.
I'm only quoting Payton, Cassel, Ray Allen, and K.Mart, all said George Karl is a great regular season headcoach to have, but his playoff strategy......
The research on Mike Woodson has been his regular season coaching makes a team look like strong competitors u dont want to bumb into in the playoffs.
But a young Mike Woodson playoff strategy is weak like George Karl career playoff strategy.
The NY media been showing more than a documentary on our front office since Chekkett......the Knicks cant hide nothing from the NY media thats why Dolan owns the LI News Day paper to investigate and cover-up stuff.
Well, Karl took the Sonics into the finals and they were only stopped by a Bulls team close to perfection, he took a Nuggets team into the Western Conference Finals, he is currently leading a very unexperienced Nuggets squad into a game seven against the Lakers. I think it is safe to say that Karl has done a thing or to which are alien to Woodson.
Originally Posted by Kiyaman
Nah, Kiyaman is right Karl is a great regular season coach but he fails in the playoffs he has the same playoff record as a nugget as Melo does because he was his coach besides these last 2 years.
It's not that Karl doesnt have a playoff strategy. Nuggets are the victims of their own creation.
Originally Posted by Kiyaman
Every coach who had ever coached there will take advantage of the thin air situation at Mile High. They will run their opponents out of the stadium gasping for air. Their philosophy is easy: run in the regular season and make the playoffs. This season the also lead the league in PPG.
Here are some of the NBA records they hold:
Highest PPG, season: 126.5
Most consecutive games, 100 or more: 136
Most points, both teams: 370
Playoffs are played at slower pace and defensive oriented games and strategy. Those are never in Nuggets' playbook. Whenever they played against Phil and Lakers or Pov and Spurs, they usually lost. Those coached are just too experienced to stick to their strategy--slow down the tempo.
I, too, wanted Kenneth Faried. I was upset when we took Shumpert. But SHUMP has shown us why that was a smart selection. We need somebody to play defense on guys like Rose & Wade, & we had PF covered. No matter what KF does in his career, or what happens w/ Shump... this move cannot be questioned b/c the logic was sound.
I say the same thing for the '08 selection of Danillo Gallinari in the 1st round. I wanted Eric Gordon, but after watching the playoffs (seeing Lewis & Hedu shooting OLR to the Finals). SIDE NOTE: Unfortunately, Walsh couldn't grab a 2nd round pick in this draft. MIA did -- the took Chalmers. Another PG went at 45 (Goran Dragic). The theme begins quickly... Walsh's biggest failure was to find a PG.
IMHO, Walsh has to be taken to task for what he did to this organization. Not to diss the man, or anything, but his risky moves were questionable from the get-go. I respect his work ethic and all the professionalism he brought. He did a tremendous job to get us under the cap... but I ask: at what cost?
It began with his choice for head coach. If the message was that the plan is to lose for 2 seaosns... to suck... then the D'anotni hire was just a circus side show, to keep fans entertained for 2 years. Thibbs or M-Jax should have been hired. If we're gonna stink for 2 seasons, then just give a NYK a chance and see what they could do.
The D'antoni hire set the team back, b/c MDA wanted to win with his SSOL system, while losing. This made no sense, & it sent the wrong message. Aside from helping Wilson Chandler, I can't honestly say MDA did anything could for a young player Walsh put on his roster.
Then came the white flag. DISGUSTING. I would prefer the entertainment be good players & non-name coach, then for Walsh to give us a big name coach but crappy players.
Not that Steph Marbury or Eddy Curry were anything special, or that they would do anything in the 2008-2009 season... But both were productive the season prior. Curry was almost all-star caliber in 2006-2007 season. Marbury was still effective, being this was before the bottom fell out of his career.
Still, it made no sense (for the future of the NYK) to step in & alienate your "2 stars" from day-1, and to sap any value these "assets" might have had. Why didn't pump of their worth, we didn't pawn them off to some team at trade deadline... We got nada for these 2 guys. You couldn't have handled this situation worse, right?
Then came the bonehead move of all time: "The Knicks completed a wild day of trading on Friday when they sent Zach Randolph and Mardy Collins to the Clippers for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley. The deal comes less than two hours after Donnie Walsh traded Jamal Crawford to the Warriors for Al Harrington."
We take our other 2 assets... Randolph & Crawford... and give them away for nothing. To recap: Walsh took 4 of our starting 5 from the '07-'08... 4 quality NBA players (at that point) and NYK got nothing in return except for cap relief down the road.
WHO COULDN'T DO THIS?
The goal for Walsh should have been the same, but his route was poorly chosen. If you're buidling for 2010, the first thing you want to do is STINK... TANK IT. What's the point in bringing in journeymen vets to be somewhat competitive? Go with youth, play all these raw kids and get high lottery picks, while hoping to develop a gem or tow.
The goal should have been to find TWO gems with your 2 first round picks in '08 & '09. The goal should be to find 1 gem in the 2nd round, or with another purchased draft pick, which would give you 3 solid, productive, roation players come 2010.
The goal should have been to turn your 4 "stars" (Marbury, Curry, Randolph & Crawford) into 2 quality, young NBA players. CALL THEIR BLUFF. You telling me that we had to deal Randolph & Crawford in NOv. 2008? You telling me some team would deal for either of them at trade deadline in 2010, a team making a playoff push?
FOOLISH going all-in for Lebron, but at least you can understand why... But to totally sacrifice the talent on the roster to do this? Assinine. NO WAY. Have confidence...
For example, MIA was able to cut bait w/ Beasley... Same with NYJ, who shed contracts after the 2010 season, for nothing. YET, to shed 1 yr & 4 mil of Jeffries, Walsh surrenders TWO first round picks (Jordan Hill & the 16th selection this year). That means, to shed 4 mil, Walsh gave away 2 solid, young players who would've helped us win from 2012-2015.
This brings me to the foolish Hill selection of 2009. With Jennings & Lawson sitting there... what were we thinking?
To recap, instead of having Ty Lawson & the 16th pick of this upcoming draft (maybe Austin Rivers or Fab Melo), we did what exactly?
Then came the Carmelo trade. Obviously, the owner Dolan stepped in and mucked it all up. I assume reports are true and that Walsh was against giving up the house. BUt, as GM, Walsh should have stood in the owners' way. he didn't. The trade went down on his watch.
Then there's the handling of the D-Lee situation. Another example of a failed move. Monta Ellis? Draft pick? Nope. We get nada... again.
I know Dolan gets the blame (rightfully so) for the Carmelo deal. But I can live w/out Gallo, Wilson Chandler, Timofey Mozgov, Anthony Randolph & Raymond Felton. The KNICKS are in bad shape right now b/c Walsh didn't draft properly, he made foolish trades to get under the cap, and he failed to find a young gem somehow, someplace...
The failed experiment that was the 2008-2012 Walsh-MDA reign netted NY nothing. It wasn't until Walsh left when we moved to sign Tyson Chandler, & draft Shumpert (OK, maybe Walsh gets some credit... who knows). But look at our roster... what else did he bring to this team?
FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
IF DENVER WINS GAME 7, and Gasol plays poorly again. Given the state of the Lakers, & Kobe's comments about Artest being the only warrior he can rely on...
Might it be possible for a Amar'e - Gasol swap?
Both make 19 mil. Gasol has 2 years left, Stoudemire has 3.
I think Gasol fits better with 'Melo, and STAT w/ Kobe?
NYK don't have alot of wiggle room, but that could be 1 window.
OR, NY could simply be part of a 3-team deal... Amar'e goes to LAK, w/ GASOL going to HOU and KNICKS getting Dragic & Martin? Who knows...