STOUDEMRE for BARGNANI?
According to ROTOWORLD (via Toronto Sun):
The Raptors remain interested in trading Andrea Bargnani, according to
president Bryan Colangelo.
"I still would say thereís value in Andrea as a player," said
Colangelo. "I get the fact that a change of scenery is probably best for all
sides. Iíve publicly acknowledged that but, again, the new guy is going to have
to decide how to handle it and there are a few options." Colangelo is
referencing the new general manager who has yet to be hired, and we'd bet
Bargnani starts next season elsewhere. It's hard to see the Raptors getting
anything of real value in return for the former No. 1 overall pick.
Both players have 2 years remaining on their contract... but Bargnani makes 11 & 12 mil while STAT makes up to 23. TOR could absorb the cap hit of 5-10 mil... we would probably have to absorb another contract. Might not happen, but Amar'e might seem to fit in well with TOR roster. They run and move the ball. Lowry, Gay, Johnson, Fields... Maybe they roll the dice and trade their garbage for ours?
Why would we trade an injury-prone power forward with lack of defensive skills and rebounding ability for another injury-prone power forward with lack of defensive skills and rebounding ability? Honestly? I have more faith in Amare with bad knees than in Bargnani.
We'll do it...Bargani is a better post defender and can stretch the floor.
They would hang the new Toronto GM whoever that is if they did that trade.
We're stuck with Amare, Kidd and Camby. Kidd and Camby are going to be boat anchors for the remainder of their careers with the Knicks, I'm hoping we can get 85% out of Amare that we expected when we signed him.
Bargani plays further from the basket than STAT. Good shooter tho. A poor mans Sheed if you want, but with no D. Dumb trade if we sign off on it. Very dumb.
this is the trade i wanted last year, him + Amir Johnson. Not sure how much this makes sense now for them. Back then they had Jose Calderon who was great at the pick and roll.
thing is, with bargnani, melo playing in the post actually works better, cus he can switch onto a pf and cause 2 mismatches with bargnani running out to the perimeter taking the smaller guy while melo tries to post up and take the bigger guy off the dribble
with amare, u may see the switch, but amare stays like a feet away from melo causing his defender to double melo, amare wont go out far cus hes usless and his defender can cheat off of him to double melo, where melo can pass out to a amare who has no real threat from outside, and have to set up the offense again
though um not saying bargnani will be great, but the guy can shoot, and it doesnt have to be bargs, any pf that can shoot is what fits melos game. if you want a low post bruiser, u have to trae melo then cus his game requires space down low, and the low post pf will just be in the way like amare
Irsan Ilyasova and Larry Sanders for Tyson Chandler and possibly Shumpert. I think this will make the knicks much better. I'm not sure why Milwaukee would ever want to do this. But i think that would put us over the top.
DUMBTONIO is the only one who can be convinced to take Amare ( not that its his decision ) . He is arrogant enough to roll the dice on something nobody would..........
Novak + Amare FOR Blake and Gasol
I know there is little chance of this happening; or any team wanting to absorb Amar'e's contract. Bu,t the truth is... there's only 2 years left on STAT's deal right now... so we are actually in the realm of a trade being possible. Not saying it is likely... Still we are here. We'll only be able to get a bad contract or something like this. TOR GM on record saying a new environment is necessary for Bargs. Amar'e did round into shape and look halfway decent. He's also proven to be a leader (when he first arrived here) and flexible (being a team player coming off the bench). If TOR shops Bargs and cannot get much in return... might they roll the dice and do something like this. Truth is, if Amare stays healthy (big IF) he could give them a quality 15 minutes a night. Run with that team and be an asset. Bargs has only played in about 30 games the last 2 seasons... So not like he's a safer bet to be on the floor. Knicks would do this b/c his game would fit better with Melo and Chandler, and he costs HALF as much as STAT. We could re-sign JR, have Bargs and still have a few extra mil... Since we are up against the cap... every little bit helps.
Just tried this trade on ESPN with Fields as the other player. According to Hollinger, it makes the Knicks 8 games worse and Toronto 8 games better. WTF, is Bargnani that bad??
Knicks want just to cut STAT Bargniani can shoot 3s + he is way better D many times Bargniani kills Knicks too + he is 213cm
but this season Andrea didnt existed didnt played didnt wanted.
Take it from someone that lives in Toronto. There's very few people in this league I wouldn't trade Amare for and Bargnani is one of them. Every Raptors game I went to this year he was boo'd from the moment he stepped on the floor until he went out. When you can't get minutes over Aaron Gray you really know you suck.
I don't think he's that bad, just plays on a poor team. Raptors will never be good with their formula of basketball.
Originally Posted by Rob Low
Andre has been injured the last two seasons, so Amare and Andrea are really the same case...only difference is the way they score. I believe Andrea's way of scoring would fit better for us.