Metro .... We messed-up BIG-TIME by not re-signing Jeremy Lin to a full-season to be tutored by HOF Jason Kidd, and veteran Felton. Could u imagine the big-hype Lin-Sanity wouldve receive world-wide throughout a full season sleeping on Jason Kidd's King-size couch in the Hamptons? LOL
Originally Posted by metrocard
Boy oh boy, did we FF-up big-time in trying to get the future top-tier NBA FA PG wanting to sign with the Knicks ..
it's not happening after Carmelo Anthony career interaction with Miller, Iverson, Billups, Lin, Felton, and finally HOF Jason Kidd.
Rumors .. has it Jason Kidd left Cuban's Mavs to sign a 3 yr contract with the Knicks to tutor a young raw Jeremy Lin skills into a veteran leadership PG to add to Kidd's future HC resume .. its just rumors made from Owner Cuban's explosion comments on Kidd's departure from the Mavs last offseason.
We messed up again by not keeping Jason Kidd in our franchise.
He makes a better leader than Mike Woodson...most overrated coach in Knicks history.
It appears that the Clippers will not be able to get Garnett. It also appears that they have locked up Chris Paul. How about Tyson Chandler (salary for next year $14.1M), for D. Jordan and Eric Bledsoe (combined salary for next year about $13.6M). The Clippers could use a defensive presence. Bledsoe is going to be a star. D. Jordan is not bad.
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
If the Knicks could make this happen it would be score......I just do not see it happening........I think you can get more for bledsoe and Jordan then Tyson.....Not a knock on Tyson I just think Bledsoe plus Jordan is a better deal.....
Clippers could do Bledsoe/Jordan for Danny Granger........This gives clippers their 3rd star and Pacers get a PG in Bledsoe and Jordan as a 6th/7th mand and trade trip if it does not gel for the next year.
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
WOW! CP3 getting center-Tyson Chandler back in the lineup, would definately put Griffin in the FINALS.
Naw .. we have to keep any FINALS experience players on the roster the next four seasons.
There are many moves this team could be making this off-season including retaining via multiple team trades players ie:
are the top 3 that this team should be targeting...
Other notables would be:
Can we get younger, while having accrued trade stock with the players we acquire this off-season... Anything is possible but the main focus is the Championship... So can we build out or team with moving certain players -- the answer is Yes!!! Good Coaching and complimentary players can help us take the next step... Having Chandler helped this organization turn it around but if we can bolster our entire team by moving him it has to be considered...
By chance if Stat doesn't complete yet another season, he has to have it in his mind to retire... Or at worst the team will do everything to try and buy him out after this season... That will open the door for one big splash or a continued movement of growing this roster... As of right now their concern is how to take this nucleus around Melo and make it better...
chandler +filler for cousins and tyreke
Kings are done with Evans and want to make Cousins face of franchise so that is definitely not going to happen...
Originally Posted by bluechox2
Malcolm Lee isn't that good.
Originally Posted by gmf1369
Evans and Robinson are talented, but not much possibly of the Knicks acquiring these guys. We only have a shot at landing draft picks and undiscovered talent through the draft. A lot depends on New York's #24 pick.
Lee is a defensive player who could become a valuable rotation player behind Shumpert... Extremely undervalued, has enough potential to become a solid rotational player... Basically another body like Shump, where our rotation for that position will stay constant... Now I am not saying right now he is equal to Iman, but a season or two he could be...
Originally Posted by metrocard
Not really into Robinson, even tho his athleticism impresses... If Melo stays at the 4, I don't see the reason to bring him in... Yes he has good size but not for the center position... He is way to big for the 3, so unless he is coming in as the 6th man it would be a waste of a move... Of course, if Melo moves back to the 3 then going after Robinson would be ideal, specially his game is rebounding first, something we lack as a team...
Evans is slasher, driving wing player that has very good ball skills and has good IQ... Might be troublesome, but new scenery might be good for him... If Sacramento is truly done with him, then rather letting him walk they would want to get something in return... Might not be glamorous -- Novak, Camby & OKC 2nd Rounder, but it gives them something to work with... Camby would be more of a mentor to Cousins, and Novak is that pure shooter they don't have... Every team can always use another draft selection, basically a freebie...
All what ifs... If we are to get younger while improving our team... The Rockets are trying to make a play for Howard and are likely to field offers for Robinson, and Kings done with Evans... If trading is the key to acquire these players, then why not... Will any or all of these players improve our current roster... Can we get Lee, for the trade exception on Brewer, depends on or if all parties are willing...
If Grunny does trade T.C., and is willing to part with Novak & Camby to acquire these players then who knows... I'm not saying the Knicks will do this, just saying its a possibility...
Lee is a defensive player, but he's horrible at everything else. He's barely half the player Ronnie Brewer is and Ronnie lost his playing time on this team. Everything Lee does, Shumpert does 10X better.
on 39% FG
on 29% 3PT
on 70% FT
He's better than James White, I give you that. He's still young, only 22. Has time to grow and improve his game. But he isn't a guy who we should make a priority. He's a summer league invite at best.
Thomas Robinson's strength is rebounding and wacky defense. He hacks a lot. Offensively, he's a mess. Shoots 43% on 3 turnovers per 36 minutes, he's also foul prone. I would say to bring him over, but Knicks normally stink at developing big men not named David Lee.
I don't think Evans or Cousins would make the Knicks a better team, just a more talented roster.
It'll be the Steve Francis/Crawford/Marbury/Randolph/Curry saga again.
It's not a good blend of players.
Evans and Cousins are ball dominant players who don't play well with off the ball.
Melo is a league leading scoring and we need to surround him with guys who can score big time off the ball. Marc Gasol would be ideal.
Evans can work if he comes here looking to penetrate and pass which he's very strong at when he chooses to. The problem with Evans is that his jumper is broken and it cancels out his game.
Cousins is too turnover prone, shoots 45% from the FG which is bad for a center, he doesn't play defense and isn't the best teammate in the league.
Knicks only have a 3-4 year window in winning a championship. We need bigger moves than Evans/Cousins....two guys who don't even know what it takes to win in the NBA and have been playing lottery style of basketball all their careers.
I think Knicks need to find some steals in the draft and hope they break out. (Danny Granger, David West type picks)