Trade Deadline Updates.
Hello fellow Knick fans! When I first got started here I contributed quite heavily.. as things picked up business wise here in the real world I kinda drifted off BUT now! since I only pop in to moderate, drop a few rumors and attempt to start bickering I am back to contribute a little more heading towards the February 21st deadline... hence the title of this thread. It's not as much as I used to do with articles, fantasy league, gamethreads (big props to MSGKnickz33 for that btw) but it's something so suck it haha.
So I'm going to give you every update for all teams as they come to me regarding trades, waivings, signings etc. HERE WE GO.
TOP 3 Predictions.
http://hoopshype.com/players/jason_kidd.jpgJason Kidd: Jason Kidd wants out of NJ. NJ wants something out of Jason Kidd, simple as that. A deal will be done before deadline so the Nets can head into the offseason with a clear mind on the draft and free agency. Jason's first pick as a destination is..
Dallas Mavericks: A one on one trade would involve Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse (expiring), cash and maybe a draft pick. Brandon Bass could also be included. The only problem with this is the Nets dont get as much as they want. Hence a possible 3 way deal involving..
Portland Trailblazers: To me this makes no sense at all of why theyd want to mess up their chemistry BUT the deal would go as planned but have Harris/Bass go to the Blazers, Outlaw/Frye/Jack go to New Jersey alongside Jerry Stackhouse. I'm not in favor of the Blazers getting involved but I guess they figure with Oden being ready for next season these role players minutes will decrease regardless. On a side note Jarrett Jack has been shopped around for the past month or so on his own.
Cleveland Cavaliers: Kidd & LeBron are good friends thanks to team USA participation and look for both to keep each other in mind when talking to front office. The only problem with this is a third team would probably still be needed & the offer would center around Drew Gooden.. which I'm not too sure any package centered around Drew Gooden is something you trade an allstar for.
15's Destination Predictions: Dallas Mavericks
http://hoopshype.com/players/damon_stoudamire.jpgDamon Stoudamire: After having a mutual agreed buyout from the youth movement in Memphis Damon will clear waivers and become a free agent at the end of this week.
Boston Celtics: Despite making OBVIOUS sense to get a proven veteran point guard to mold Rondo and share minutes with the youngster Danny Ainge has decided NOT to look into signing Damon any time soon.
San Antonio Spurs: Who seem to be always looking to age are the frontrunners for his services. Needing a better option at backup PG after trading away Beno Udrih to the Kings this makes sense.. for the NOW. Not so much the future. Gives Damon a chance at a ring and gives someone minutes who is proven.
Toronto Raptors: His old.. young team could also have interest with TJ Fords status not too certain. But with Ford coming back to practice this week the Raptors will have more of a feel if his services are definitely needed.
15's Destination Prediction: San Antonio Spurs
http://hoopshype.com/players/ron_artest.jpgRon Artest: Ron-Ron on the move again.. and this team not by his own demand or crazy antics. Ron has done everything to be a team player. Came back from injury early. Shut his mouth in the media. Not jumping into stands. you know not the typical ronnie stuff. BUT the Kings are looking to overhaul sooo...
Playoff contenders: Its basically do or die with Ron. He will opt out after this season so the risk of giving up something valuable for him is HIGH. So the only way it will happen is if a playoff team on the verge of making some noise but not making it all the way decides to use him for exactly that. Instant dose of D&O. But who will attemt that? I dont know exactly... Mavs are always in the mix, San Antonio? Houston? Not sure.
New York Knicks: Ron's first choice. Knicks first choice. A package deal could take place in a bibby/artest/marburyetcetc ordeal but the more likely is Isiah finally making a good move. He's been holding out from using Robinson or Lee and I think he still will be. So look for Jeffries&Chandler with a second round pick to go to the Kings in exchange for Artest. Possibly with another small contract player involved. With deadline making the Kings desperate to get something back and seeing that no one in their right mind will trade something overly valuable for someone who can opt out and sign with NY next year ANYWAY
15's Destination Prediction: New York Knicks
Top 5 Notable on the moves:
1: Stromile Swift: NJ Nets for Jamaal Magloire? Possible.
2: JJ Reddick: Exploring possible trades. Not likely.
3: Charlie Villenueva: Possible suitors? "New York, Houston"
4: Delonte West: Not permanent in Seattle.
5: Vince Carter: who would take him?
welllll this brings me to my help the knicks rant of the day. I know we all would like to get under the cap. But in the reality of things, with our owner.. with our staff.. with out players! its not possible. Sure Curry for Kwame would help and Craw to the Magic for expiring players etc COULD work but lets face it. it wont. In the reality of things no one wants Jeromes James contract.. Jamal Crawfords contract.. Q's contract.. Stephs or Maliks we have to face it. Randolph and Curry still have value and GMs will still take that risk on 13 & 10 million dollar big men that actually produce.. if the offense is ran through them. we are stuck with what we have. BUT if Vince Carter is offered to us for Jamal Crawford and Jerome James (Which he was) and we can somehow swing Balkman in there (who NJ likes a lot) for Sean Williams TAKE IT. his contract has an option for 10/11 a team option that is. I say pull the trigger. then pull the trigger on a Artest deal. before you know it we have a roster of (if done right)
hell id even try to trade Randolph&Curry for Camby & Kmarts bad contract. thats pushin it but atleast that gives us a chance this season and then we reevaluate in the offseason. Rose will have on year left. Well still have a first round pick. And we have bright youngs in Williams, Lee, Robinson and to the extent of Randolph/Curry I guess haha. Just some food for thought.. not sayin itll save us. but hell... we cant get any worse.
the kings ain't taking jefferies... he sux's/sux;s/sux's.. they would be better off losing artest (and his 8.5m salary) then adding this piece of ****..
Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
and he ain't signing with the knicks.. next years contract is for 8.5m... so he opts-out and signs with the knicks the mle of 6m???
u better go back to business school...
Do you know anything about basketball? or the inner circle of the nba? I'm not coming at you like you do me BUT I'm saying look into stuff, get sources, use your brain before coming at me. When you are in a situation where you will get nothing for letting a superstar walk.. youll take the something. Sacramento wont be under the cap and no star will want to go there regardless so you take a deal where you get a big defensive minded SF on a three year contract that doesnt go higher than 6.8 million (which you says suck cause he doesnt put up stats) and young SF who has the potential to turn into a pretty good player in his own right. Along with a 2nd round pick? and you tell me they wont desperately take that? And if you dont think Ron will stick to his word and opt out then you are nuts. Ron is nuts and Ron has heart. His heart is in NY. hes been making money for the past 8 years on 3 teams he could careless about. and by the time endorsements come his way (a Knick from NY adv $$$, look at Steph for example) hell make way more than the MLE on top of Jersey sales which will be HIGH. im not gonna say YOU should go back to business school... but perhaps you should just think before you come at someone... just a thought my friend.
Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
sorry that i came across as an a$$hole... not my intention...
my opinion is that excluding our young guys, we have no tradeable players.. if i did'nt mention it before, jefferies sux's big time... i watch the games, and he ain't no "D" specialist.. he blows on both ends of the court. burger-king james, untradeable. then we get to zach..no value,curry has value to the team that wants to play a plotting 1/2 court game, qrich is untradeable with his back. malik = no value... i guess crawford is worth something, but not a whole hell of a lot.. jones, makes no money to even count..
now the kings have a few nice young pieces. artest wants out, has his opt-out next year, but i don't care want opt's avail themselves to him in ny, he is not taking 2+ m less a year to come home... if he puts him self on the mkt, i bet he will get offers over 10m a year for a couple/few.
if i was the kings gm, i rather lose artest for nothing then have jefferies 20m on the books for the next 3 years... i can find someone at the local cyo center to play better then him.
the final nail is that the vast majority of gm's have a strong dislike for isiah (hate is such an ugly word)..
one man's opinion... and again i apologize.. peace
Great update by Knicks15. Would Cleveland be too soft down low without gooden or would Varajeo be able to fill in. Thats what im askin myself if Kidd was traded to Cleveland. Varajeo doesnt have the offense that Gooden does but hes more of a hustle player.
I pray everynite that Artest gets traded to the Knicks. We could really use someone with his heart, work ethic, and team play/leadership.
The Celtics are looking to acquire Sam Cassell but to me this is stupid. What if they cant work out a deal with the Clippers and Stoudamire signs somewhere else? Im hopin things happen like this obviously bein a Celtic hater. Thats one of their weaknesses.
(Sac - SF,PF)
Artest, who recently said he would opt out of his contract at the end of the season, is being actively shopped around the NBA, the Sacramento Bee reports
if we keep crawford, lee, marbury, randolph....id trade anyone else for artest....
For all you guys that want Artest, when we discussed this a couple of months ago I was strongly against it because IMO it was very likely he would be a disruptive force on the team and bad for chemistry. That has been his history (including fights, wanting to promote rap CDs instead of playing for the team, incoherent interviews etc...).
The response was that he had matured, was behaving well now, had a right to promote his other businesses etc..... You know, the typical excuses that are given for people that behave like self centered morons that shouldn't be on your team if you actually want to win. "the intangibles"
Well, true to form, he's at it again! Trading for this idiot would be the worst thing we could do, especially if we give up a prospect.
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"Artest has been on an erratic spell of late, with his public displays including the on-floor tirade at coach Reggie Theus while playing Detroit on Jan. 18 and his bizarre antics at Utah on Friday that led to his ejection after two technicals. Privately, sources close to the team said he has exploded at Theus numerous times in recent weeks while growing frustrated with the season and the first-year coach."
Artest should of been a Knick ever since he was drafted. I'm all for getting my favorite athlete in the world on my favorite team:peace:
Originally Posted by metrocard
Why do you say these things? :shrug::rolling: :wtf:
I know he's very talented, is exactly the kind of player the Knicks need (on paper), and he's a local guy, but I also know you are smart enough to understand we'd be begging for more trouble if we brought him here right at the exact time things have finally calmed down a bit after the problems between Isiah and Marbury.
i want Artest as well Metro. He will def be a Knick by next season at the latest. I will order my jersey 1st day its released.
THE BADY BOYS R BACK!!!
I think people are too hard on Artest no homo. I dont think hes as bad as people make him out to be. Hes one of the best small forwards who hates losing and has a great work ethic. stop hatin
Originally Posted by knicklover
I think I am the biggest Artest fan (no homo) on this whole forum.. Hustle, and pride.
co-sign, artest is a top20 player
Originally Posted by metrocard
wow...artest aint even that bad...i mean wasent Zach trouble as well...i mean c mon i doubt artest will be trouble here in the big apple man...2 much eyes 4 him 2 do anything stupid