Debunking Creationism with Genesis Book
I think I've accomplished the easiest way to dismantle creationists, with an argument most can understand. And using the first book the Bible or Torah to be honest. Leave out for a moment that this books is built on the legends from Babylonia. And just go through it literally at face value, the words in it itself...disprove it entirely. If I maybe so bold as to demonstrate my biblical hypothesis on how this can be done; A moment to reflect...
Let's just skip down to where MAN is supposedly created;
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and overall the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
001:027 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
**Now notice how it goes from OUR to HIS. Goes plural to singular just like that. So does that mean originally there were 2 GODS?...(Certainly would explain the serpent business later)...Does it mean he took advice from his servants? Took some input, read some memo's on how to create mankind. **
Moving right along...we get into that "Tree business"...here's what it says BEFORE THE WARNING IS ISSUED...
1:029 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearingseed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
**And EVERY TREE...It's the equivalent of saying HELP YOURSELVES I made it myself**
Next up, the rest period.
2:002 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
002:003 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
**Seems highly unusual a GOD would get tired, sleepy, cranky after a long hard day of work..especially with no alcohol to relax him and veg out in-front of the cosmic couch. Then again this would explain the violence. no sex, no alcohol..and since no masturbation no release. No wonder he was so vengeful in the beginning.
No rain, no irrigation, no water...how'd he grow plants?
002:005 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
2:006 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
**Now correct me if I'm wrong, but how did the plants grow before water go to them? It's not even in logical order right here and we are only in the 2nd chapter of this thing.
2:009 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
**Now, maybe it is just me but if the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" is something my kids are not supposed to go near or touch...why would I place it where they could get to it?. This already proves GOD can't see the future, nor has any real concern for human beings. A caring parent would not have even placed this thing in the same room if it was truly that dangerous...especially look at the consequences they're going to get in a moment from eating from this thing
2:016 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree ofthe garden thou mayest freely eat:
002:017 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
**Now here's where I have the biggest problem with creationists. Now GOD has already created one person, that doesn't have any knowledge at all. But let me go literal for a moment. He specifically had NO KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. A) How could he have known it was bad to eat from that tree, without knowing what good and evil meant in the first place? I mean seriously, If I tell you don't light the cat on fire it' bad. And you have no concept of what "BAD" is...then how could you know it's not positive or what your concept of positive is? B) Also says nothing about his intelligence before he ate from the tree. Didn't say they were highly advanced and just had no sense of morality and were amoral. Doesn't say Adam raped Eve, didn't know she was even naked neither of them did. C) How do they know about the concept of death, if they have no knowledge of what death is? Why would they think death is a bad thing if they don't even know what it is to begin with? It's like telling a cat to park your car, just has no clue.
Moving right along to the woman in question, EVE.
002:023 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
03:001 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
**Now, he gave Adam all these instructions...doesn't give her ONE. None at all, just creates her...tells Adam have fun and good luck..but doesn't pull her to the side update her on current events. Now later on in the next verse...it's alluded either GOD or Adam must've told her because she debates with the TALKING SERPENT that she was warned not to eat the fruit. Problem she doesn't specifically state which tree that is....
003:002 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
003:003 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
003:004 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
**She just never singles out which tree it is, but let's assume she knew which one. Why would GOD let a talking snake into the garden in the first place? I can't imagine GOD after having created reptiles not remembering he created one that could talk, and manipulate people. You can't say it was a test of faith, because there was no such thing. Just GOD, and two naked people. Take a look at the next verses....
003:005 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
003:006 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
003:007 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
3:008 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
003:011 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
**So now, they both have eaten the fruit whatever it was...ironically this ain't mentioned either. Now GOD was nowhere to be found moments before she ate this fruit, nor when Adam was about eat it as well. Just out at the bar I guess. And he's not even aware of it instantaneously....he only finds out later after stumbling back from the intergalactical kegger when he's trying to find them. "Dude, where's my parishoners"...or looking to get laid. I mean hey, he tapped Mary later.
The simple fact he has to ask Adam if he ate from the tree, again further proof of no omnipotence. Remind you before they ate, how no knowledge of death or consequences...because after all if you don't know what something means...how can you be liable? It's why the justice system doesn't allow for the execution of the mentally challenged. Look at the forgiveness and a CONTRADICTION coming up...
3:016 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
003:017 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
**So now, they've eaten..he's punished the talking serpent by taking it's legs. And now he's punishing two people because he's never gave knowledge of death too, people he never explained that talking serpent's should not be listened too. Instead of just simply erasing their minds/starting over...after all he's only got to erase 2 PEOPLE. (Meanwhile he drowns countless others in a flood later on..but here doesn't bother to just erase 2 people...makes no logical sense)...punishes them for disobeying as command he never created them to understand till after they ate the fruit in the first place. Now the contradiction comes from when he created EVE in the first place...didn't catch it...let's go back...
2:024 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
**Now, he's made at Adam for listening to his wife...eventhough they are supposed to be operating as 1...and listen/support eachother since they are together. TISK TISK...If he would've told him strictly that his wife was to obey him, and not listen to her...isn't it logical he would've just not eaten as well...then again...no prior knowledge of nothing so how could he truly know....??
Just going not even past chapter 3 of Genesis I think I've proven my point as to why their is NO GOD, and if there is certainly not an intelligent, all knowing, all powerful one. He rested, he grew plants before giving them water, created two persons with no knowledge of anything yet expecting them to understand what he is saying, left something dangerous in harms way where they could access it, let them with an unfit nanny to observe them (even though never says why the serpent is actually there and can talk in the first place....) get's made when they actually did something together as 1...like he said they were supposed to do....and then punishes both of them for being dumb.
MAKES NO SENSE.