Pistons @ Knicks 12/07/08 12:00 PM ET Special Edition

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The Detroit Pistons (11-7)
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The New York Knicks (8-11)
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

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</td> <td>NEW YORK</td> <td>ATLANTA</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Points</td> <td>95</td> <td>98</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">FG Made-Attempted</td> <td>39-89 (.438)</td> <td>39-80 (.488)</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">3P Made-Attempted</td> <td>11-34 (.324)</td> <td>5-26 (.192)</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">FT Made-Attempted</td> <td>6-6 (1.000)</td> <td>15-21 (.714)</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Rebounds (Offensive-Total)</td> <td>12-39</td> <td>7-40</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Assists</td> <td>22</td> <td>23</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Turnovers</td> <td>17</td> <td>17</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Steals</td> <td>8</td> <td>9</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Blocks</td> <td>1</td> <td>2</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Fast Break Points</td> <td>19</td> <td>30</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Fouls (Tech/Flagrant)</td> <td>21 (0/0)</td> <td>11 (1/0)</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">Largest Lead</td> <td>5</td> <td>12</td></tr></tbody></table>
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Points: 27
Reb: 7
Ast: 1
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Points: 16
Reb: 8
Ast: 5
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<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td colspan="3" class="gamehead" align="center" bgcolor="#555555">Game Leaders</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td> </td><td>NEW YORK</td><td>ATLANTA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>Points</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 27</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 18</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>Rebounds</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 11</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 9</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>Assists</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 8</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 9</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>Steals</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 4</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>Blocks</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 1</td><td nowrap="nowrap">[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] 2</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3">· Team stats: [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] | [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...]</td></tr></tbody></table>
JPZ17's most important part of last game
Jared Jefferies back and 7 boards
Al Harrington showing promise
Knicks can still score without Zach and Jamal!!
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I'll be your host today as the Knicks take on Allen Iverson and the Detroit Pistons!!

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AI is coming back to The Garden after being dealt to Detroit.

Official JPZ17 Game Prediction:

Knicks 116 Pistons 108

It's time for this 2, 3, 4 point game bull to end, and it ends today. The Pistons will be over-confident and will not play hard enough to win. The Knicks will stop AI. AI will get grouchy and make lots of turnovers. Al Harrington will destroy Brown. Lee will be destroyed by Sheed.

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Just don't count on Sundays.The Pistons, still inconsistent after altering their chemistry with a deal for [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...], look to win for the first time in five Sunday games when they visit the struggling [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...].Detroit (11-7), which has made the East finals each of the last six seasons, made a somewhat risky trade by sending steady point guard [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] to Denver as part of a deal for Iverson. The Pistons have responded with up-and-down play.Just this past week, Detroit won at San Antonio 89-77 on Tuesday night but lost three days later at home to Philadelphia 96-91.Sundays, inexplicably, have been particularly bad for the Pistons. Detroit has played more games on that day than any other team in the league, losing all four contests while going 11-3 on all other days.In its Sunday matchups, Detroit has averaged a league-worst 81.8 points while shooting 38.6 percent.The Pistons are going to need more production than that to keep up with New York (8-11). The Knicks have lost three straight and eight of their last 10, but are averaging 104.0 points under first-year coach Mike D'Antoni.Detroit beat New York 110-96 at home on Nov. 26 -- a Wednesday -- with eight of its players scoring in double figures. The Pistons last had eight players score 10 or more points on Jan. 19, 1990, against Golden State.Against the 76ers, though, Detroit blew a 15-point second-half lead, giving up 38 in the fourth quarter."We've just got to do a better job defending," Pistons guard [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] said.Hamilton had 19 points, his most since finishing with 19 against Phoenix on Nov. 16. He's scored a combined nine points in his las two games at New York.The Knicks were short-handed in their last meeting with the Pistons. They were still trying to put together a roster after trading away their two leading scorers, and [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] missed the game with a groin strain.That left New York with eight players, and starting guard [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] played despite an arm injury.The Knicks lost 98-95 to Atlanta on Friday night, but their depth was improved.New York continues to play without guard [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...], who was ordered by team president Donnie Walsh on Monday to stay away from practices and games. But Robinson had four points after missing four games because of a strained groin, and [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] returned from a broken left fibula to make his first appearance of the season.Jeffries had six points and seven rebounds but fell under the basket with 7:55 to play. He limped back up the court, and left the game. He didn't return but said he didn't aggravate the injury."More than anything it scared me," Jeffries said. "I'll get a lot better, get my legs back."[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...], acquired from Golden State for [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] on Nov. 21, scored 27 points but missed a last-second 3 that would have forced overtime. Harrington is averaging 12.4 points and 5.6 rebounds in five games with the Knicks. -ESPN.com

Det is a 71% favorite

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</td> <td>W-L</td> <td>PF</td> <td>PA</td> <td>HOME</td> <td>ROAD</td> <td>STK</td> <td>L10</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">DET</td> <td>11-7</td> <td>95.9</td> <td>95.4</td> <td>5-4</td> <td>6-3</td> <td>L1</td> <td>5-5</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">NY</td> <td>8-11</td> <td>104.0</td> <td>108.4</td> <td>6-4</td> <td>2-7</td> <td>L3</td> <td>2-8</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td colspan="3" class="gamehead" align="center" bgcolor="#555555">2008-09 Season</td></tr> <tr class="colhead"><td colspan="3" align="center">Detroit leads 1-0</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow"><td>Wed 11/26</td><td> @DET 110, NY 96</td><td>[Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] | [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...]</td></tr> <tr class="evenrow"><td>Dec 7, 2008</td><td> DET @ NY</td><td>12:00 PM ET</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow"><td>Mar 11, 2009</td><td> NY @ DET</td><td>7:30 PM ET</td></tr> <tr class="evenrow"><td>Apr 8, 2009</td><td> DET @ NY</td><td>7:30 PM ET</td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" bgcolor="#cccccc">· Complete Schedule: [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] | [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...]</td></tr></tbody></table>

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FAVE 5 KEYS TO WINNING

Stop AI
Get Harrington the ball
Double team Sheed
Let Duhon lead
Get the Garden pumped up
JPZ17's
FIVE THINGS TO
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AI scored under 15
Knicks win by 8
Sheed has a BIG game
Harrington dominates
Duhon has 13 assists
OUTSIDE OPINION

*ADD LATER*

Opponents last game:

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Hamilton-19 points
AI-17 points

76ers
Miller-19 points
AI-16 points

and now it's time for JPZ's starting lineup

New York Knicks Position Detroit Pistons

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Lee>>>>>>>>Brown.... EASY
JPZ17's Key matchup
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Very good match-up.. toughest task for Harrington so far...

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Interesting... Chandler could win this..
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Hamilton>Q... Will Q show up today?
a scrub could do that)

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Stop AI, win the game. Simple.

JPZ17's Player Pressure
Which Knicks is under the most pressure to succeed????

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The answer:Allen Iverson

Yeah, I just picked the opponent...

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only an hour too late!! sorry... Forgot I signed up for this.. not as good as my usual.. But I spent an hour on it!!!!

nice work considering you rushed it still sick work......we need to get Harrington the ball he's been on fire lately so keep feeding him the rock and play upfront defense stopping them from getting easy shots is key for us...

we're smacking them by 22 i woulda never guessed we'd be winning by this margin, but the pistons look like their stuggling at least were capitalizing but im not giving us the win yet we've blown leads before i hope we dont do it here also...

Harrigton has 15 knocking down 3 3pointers
Chandler has 9
Duhon and Q-Rich have 16 each....Duhons been sick lately

still waiting for Nate

Nice game so far...

Why am I afraid they might blow it?

^because we've done it plenty of times before...

we can't destroy this lead... not happenin, we are a D-League team if we do

Were on right now??? oh sh!t

Nice game thread jpz, best game thread in a while

Tim Thomas is just...so...awful!

Good thing they got this guy back, as if the awful first run wasn't indicative of what he'd bring to the team again. Get Tim Thomas outta NY!

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Tim Thomas is just...so...awful!

Good thing they got this guy back, as if the awful first run wasn't indicative of what he'd bring to the team again. Get Tim Thomas outta NY!

When he came here again, I forgot just how bad he was. He's reminded me, it seems like whenever he gets the ball the possession ends in a turnover or a bad shot.

Atleast we won...

this is only my third best game thread

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Atleast we won...

We did win this game did'nt we....
the AI move to Detroit has the Pistons falling apart....Duhon leadership outclassed Iverson's leadership of Pistons.
I like AI....but the Pistons are lost wid out Billups.

Nice Knick win (wid 7 man rotation).
Make u Luv the hustle of Lee & Chandler.

it was a good win for the knicks.. they came to play from the beginning and played good defensively in the first half and some of the second.. Duhon is really coming around and becoming a leader this knicks team needs. if only we can play like this every night against every team we would have a shot at the playoffs

Love these threads, I'll have to watch this space more often. What a win to break the losing streak with just a 7 man rotation. Good to see RIP Hamilton is being consistent by being sent off yet again.:D

Duhon has been the suprise package for me this year, I honestly didn't know much about him when he was signed but he has stepped into the role nicely.

GO KNICKS!!!!!!!!