Carlos Arroyo again... okay, i have nothing against carols arroyo. solid player, good floor general, good size, above average passing ability, around average defender, thirty years old..
the only reason the thirty year old thing bothers me for someone like Carlos compared to Andre Miller is because Andre has played the NBA game and succeeded for years Carlos not so much and then for him to jump back into the game and get off the rust is not worth the risk.
We are better off with Duhon who is younger, a backup just like Arroyo should be at this rate and dont have to go through any contract negotations plus we already know what we are getting with him. nothing special but not a hassle.
and i can honestly say the only reason we are talking Carlos Arroyo right now is because he is puerto rican. thats the only reason i talk about Gallinari with high hope.. because he is italian haha
What rust off? Arroyo is more improved than ever.
Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
Why does age make someone better?
Arroyo is a better overall talent and superior to Duhon, more sucessful, experienced and skilled.
Duhon is very limited, offensively he's the Ben Wallace of PG's and his defense isn't good as advertise (poor offensive players automatically get labeled as good defenders)
Only reason why we're talking about Arroyo is because he's a free agent PG with experience, talent and skills to produce good numbers in this offense.
The reason why we talk about Gallo is because he's a Knick.
Puerto Rican and Italian, thats cool...athletes we could look up to.
But its pretty damn foolish to deny the talent and skills.
Arroyo is IMPROVED and has a bunch of new moves in his arsenal that will make him a bigger threat in the NBA...his shooting/defense/passing/ball handling/scoring instincts have increase.
He's going to the Bulls:
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According to multiple sources, former NBA point guard Carlos Arroyo is on the verge of returning to the league after a very successful stint overseas. Since leaving the Orlando Magic, Arroyo guided Maccabi Tel Aviv last season to an Israeli Premier League Championship and was named MVP of the Finals. Now, according to El Nueva Dia, Arroyo is close to signing a one-year contract with the Chicago Bulls.
While his agent, Leon Rose, is working out Arroyo's next deal, Arroyo himself is playing with the Puerto Rican National Team in San Juan, in the FIBA Americas Championship.
"There are some opportunities that we're considering. Negotiating a contract is a pretty slow process," [Only registered and activated users can see images. Click Here To Register...] "But my focus is totally on Puerto Rico's national team. My mind and heart needs to be here."
There are also rumors out there that have Arroyo's camp talking with the Milwaukee Bucks and Boston Celtics, though both teams have denied any contact whatsoever.
****y it if ya'll think Im biased.. but Carlos Arroyo and Mike Dantoni would be a SSOL match made in heaven!!!
It isn't bias at all.
Originally Posted by portega1968
Arroyo is very effective with the pick and roll and in a full tempo game...Arroyo is the anti duhon...he actually creates opportunities...a wizard with the ball.
Arroyo/Duhon backcourt would be really effective...both are good passers, Duhon the superior defender...Arroyo the superior ball handler...split their minutes 28-21 minutes each ...get a cheap quality PG for nothing.
My man is starting now...whats good?
Heat have won 5 of the last 6 games with him starting. He is a great ball handler and distributor, plus his defense has been great. Take a close look at how good he is defending. In addition, his Ast/To ratio is among the best in the NBA so far this season:
The actual (as of Dic/26) leading PGs in AST/TO ratio of the East:
1- Jason Williams, ORL 4.28
2- Carlos Arroyo, MIA 3.60
3- Rajon Rondo, BOS 3.49
4-Mike Bibby, ATL 3.35
5-Chris Duhon, NYK 3.33
6-Luke Ridnour, MIL 3.24
7-Willie Green, PHI 3.13
8-Jeff Teague, ATL 3.06
Knicks passed on Carlos Arroyo...this is as bad as passing on Lopez.
+41 +/- for Arroyo tonight.
Originally Posted by metrocard
chris dudu is on that list??? wtfffff
HAHAAAHAHAH as bad as passing on Lopez...
Originally Posted by metrocard
There's plenty of expendable 3rd string point guards in the NBA, but maybe 3 or 4 legitimate centers that can score, play defense, and control the glass.
This thread was already hilarious, but now it's just ridiculous.
How is he ANY more accomplished than Duhon? Because he was on better teams? He's played in 34 playoff games and guess what his averages looked like?
All culminating to a magnificent average of 1.9 assists per game. If anything, he's less accomplished because he's proven to disappear in the playoffs, considering he's averaged as high as 5.1 assists per game (not that that is even sufficient as a starter...but still..only furthering my point) during the regular season, and goes down to below 2 assists per game during the playoffs.
Some ball wizard.
Duhon and Arroyo are both scrubs.
It's actually sad that your reasoning behind signing a player who has never even had a +/ rating of over 8,(league average is 15...) even as a starter, is biased opinions, and youtube videos.
The stats all prove that he is inefficient, disappears in the playoffs, and when he plays, teams DON'T WIN. Check his stints with Miami, Denver, Toronto, Utah (3x), and Orlando (3x). SMFH again. He was traded away off the only team that won a championship in the middle of the season!!!!
Are you seeing something that I'm not?????????
There are expendable 3rd string PG's in the NBA, unfortunately for your weak arguement, Arroyo is a NBA starter. An NBA starter of a PLAYOFF TEAM, that won 47 games, twice more than Duhon has had in his last two seasons, there is no comparison.
Arroyo ain't no star, but he definitely isn't a scrub which makes your argument weak.
and Arroyo playoff stats mean nothing since he was playing behind All Star PG with Chauncey Billups, 19 games out of the 30 or so games he played.
Arroyo is more of an intangibles guy, he doesn't play the pad his stats.
Arroyo plays turnover free basketball, creating opportunity and plays for his teammates and his rhythm with the ball makes the offense flow in sync. Miami's offense saw great improvement when they benched Alston and Chalmers, two point guards who are superior to Duhon, for Arroyo.
and its not even a question if Arroyo is established. Everyone in the NBA and the world knows he's talented and gifted, that isn't even a question(unless your a hater). Arroyo in the past was immature and hard headed, thus leading to him getting traded. But the fact remains he has a lot of skill and talent this team can use, he's a proven international star, and one of the best ball handlers in the NBA. He's a strong PG at 6"2 and 202 lbs with good midrange jumper and can use the pick and roll as good as anyone in the league. His weaknesses are his 3pt range and he's not a blazing fast PG, but not slow by any means.
Getting traded alot doesn't mean your bad at all. Business is business. You're obviously reaching here and not making any sense. Arroyo would be a nice upgrade for us, period. STOP HATING kid. Thanks.