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Feb 14, 2010, 11:41
Paul1355

Espn.com insider has Knicks going for Joe Johnson

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So i have been saying that the most realistic move is for Joe Johnson to come to NY in 2010. He gave Mike D credit for playing him starter's minutes and developing his game. Johnson has rejected a deal from the Hawks this year. I have always seen Johnson in a Knicks uniform for some weird reason.

Now ESPN insider, which is usually the best rumor central news, is saying that the Knicks are the #1 buyer for Johnson and/or that Johnson just wants to come to NY...if i had the insider this would be great but I don't.

Does everyone buy this rumors and think that Johnson would fit nice with this team? He can be our main scorer and is a good passer. Thoughts?
Feb 14, 2010, 11:44
knicksin60

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So i have been saying that the most realistic move is for Joe Johnson to come to NY in 2010. He gave Mike D credit for playing him starter's minutes and developing his game. Johnson has rejected a deal from the Hawks this year. I have always seen Johnson in a Knicks uniform for some weird reason.

Now ESPN insider, which is usually the best rumor central news, is saying that the Knicks are the #1 buyer for Johnson and/or that Johnson just wants to come to NY...if i had the insider this would be great but I don't.

Does everyone buy this rumors and think that Johnson would fit nice with this team? He can be our main scorer and is a good passer. Thoughts?

Will these move happen this season or after this season?
Feb 14, 2010, 12:05
ANU

this off season? that's just ****ing dumb.i hate that idea.
Feb 14, 2010, 12:05
New New York

I've always like Joe Johnson

but without a PG or a true Center Joe Johnson would be of no use. He is better off in ATL and we are better off spending the money we would use on a Max FA on filling some gaps.
Feb 14, 2010, 12:12
jrdrny

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Originally Posted by New New York

I've always like Joe Johnson

but without a PG or a true Center Joe Johnson would be of no use. He is better off in ATL and we are better off spending the money we would use on a Max FA on filling some gaps.

thats the thing joe johnson can run point the line up would be
joe
wilson
gallo
jj
lee
and joe will be a great defener because of his size and the size of an average point guard
Feb 14, 2010, 14:00
paris401

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Originally Posted by New New York

I've always like Joe Johnson

but without a PG or a true Center Joe Johnson would be of no use. He is better off in ATL and we are better off spending the money we would use on a Max FA on filling some gaps.

he rejected an extention of some 65m over 4year, so he is a max FA...or looking for a max contract... nice player, not worth 15/16m per...
Feb 14, 2010, 14:36
metrocard

Eh...I don't see whats so special...
Feb 14, 2010, 16:41
milchshake

johnson, fernandez, camby, mcgrady even ridnour who else only in this week ? who got someone for the knicks ?
Feb 14, 2010, 16:50
LJ4ptplay

Great. We dumped 2 years and have pinned our hopes on Joe Johnson.

I don't know why he would leave Atlanta for the worst roster in the NBA. This franchise is cursed forever.
Feb 14, 2010, 17:14
Paul1355

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Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay

Great. We dumped 2 years and have pinned our hopes on Joe Johnson.

I don't know why he would leave Atlanta for the worst roster in the NBA. This franchise is cursed forever.

lol we have to break that curse...if the piece of dirt red sox can break a huge curse like they had...then the knicks can do it...have faith!
Feb 14, 2010, 18:56
iSaYughh

Man, it sickens me when I see people give potential lineups that include Jared Jeffries. The layers of pathetic if that man is still on our roster after this season can't be overstated.

Can we even sign Lee and Johnson? I don't think so.

If we could (bigbigBIG if) and we add another year of slavery to our fandom, we could look forward to a potential contender if Gallo and Hill develop the year after, barring a couple trades:

C Hill
PF Lee
SF Gallo
SG Chandler
PG Johnson

Jeffries' expiring, 1st --> Devin Harris

C Hill
PF Lee
SF Gallo
SG Johnson
PG Harris

Key Bench: Chandler, Douglas, CurryExpiring.
Feb 14, 2010, 19:56
TheBigCock

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Originally Posted by iSaYughh

Man, it sickens me when I see people give potential lineups that include Jared Jeffries. The layers of pathetic if that man is still on our roster after this season can't be overstated.

Can we even sign Lee and Johnson? I don't think so.

If we could (bigbigBIG if) and we add another year of slavery to our fandom, we could look forward to a potential contender if Gallo and Hill develop the year after, barring a couple trades:

C Hill
PF Lee
SF Gallo
SG Chandler
PG Johnson

Jeffries' expiring, 1st --> Devin Harris

C Hill
PF Lee
SF Gallo
SG Johnson
PG Harris

Key Bench: Chandler, Douglas, CurryExpiring.

I don't think Jeffries is that bad. He's IMHO top 5 DPOTY.
Honestly I would sign up to have your projected lineup.
Feb 14, 2010, 20:06
iSaYughh

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Originally Posted by TheBig****

I don't think Jeffries is that bad. He's IMHO top 5 DPOTY.
Honestly I would sign up to have your projected lineup.

I honestly don't think Jeffries is that bad either! But that actually underscores my pt. of disgust with Donnie Walsh *if* he isn't traded/dumped!

Jeffries is actually a pretty serviceable player; you consider him top5 DPOTY, and you aren't alone. He clearly has value, and clearly would have measurable value for contending teams, or teams on the brink, in particular.

That said, this entire franchise -- by the work, words, and wisdom -- of the front office, has designated our lifeline on Plan 2010.

Plan 2010 can, realistically, only be positioned to truly work *if* Jeffries is traded.

His relative value for our team is -100000000000000000 because of this, even though his actual value to many other teams would be +10000000000, because he is indeed pretty solid, and has some interesting value. This is especially true since we are *simply* trying to dump him, and won't even expect to get back *any* value.

I actually wouldn't mind the roster I mentioned above, either. but, to get that, it would take initiative on the part of our franchise -- the very same initiative they seem to be perplexed by in executing in even the most rudimentary (and fundamental) aspects of the single biggest plan we have been told: Plan 2010.
Feb 14, 2010, 20:38
Paul1355

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Originally Posted by TheBig****

I don't think Jeffries is that bad. He's IMHO top 5 DPOTY.
Honestly I would sign up to have your projected lineup.

Top 5 defensive player of the year?????

wow Jeffries is so overrated on this forum.

Take away his ability to take a charge and you have nothing. I can't believe some people honestly feel he is that good on defense. He gets dominated against Centers.
Feb 14, 2010, 20:57
Crazy⑧s

Consolation Prize: McGrady and Johnson

So, we'll basically have the same roster plus Joe Johnson (if this is true) providing we get Lee back along with a few cheap players to round out the roster.

Is this why we're pursuing McGrady? As a plan B to another declining SG?

And still, we sputter along with no real center or PG.

In all honesty, how much is Joe Johnson really worth? More than Lee?

If we were to sign Johnson at $10m and Lee the same for example, we'd have $6m to spare to round out the roster with 4 more players. An average of $1.5m/player.

****ing Donnie. You catatonic old ****.

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