News just broke that Jeff Hornacek has been hired to be the Knicks' new head coach. Literally just read this within the last minute. Details to follow.
Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer
The Knicks will hire Jeff Hornacek as their next head coach, a league source confirmed to ESPN. First reported by Bleacher Report.
he didnt flame out at all
they completely overhauled the entire team. he had dragic playing into the contract he currently has only for him to demand a trade because they had too many point guards.
eric bledsoe injured
brandon knight injured
they sign chandler past his prime
that suns team had no business winning 48 games that year and then they literally dismantled that entire squad the next two years.
The thing I love the most about our team, is we don't ever seem afraid
Naaaaaahhhh man he flamed out, he did have some injuries to deal with but that's not a legit excuse. Bulls injuries, Hornets injuries, Heat injuries and lots of overhauling still were successful. Suns back-to-back lotto that's flaming out after winning 48gms.
Last edited by Broadway; May 18, 2016 at 19:19.
I have so many questions. Does hiring Hornacek mean we are changing our offensive philosophy? Does hiring Hornacek mean we chose him over Vogel and Blatt or does it mean neither Vogel nor Blatt wanted to come here? Did Melo push for PJ to hire someone, anyone, other than Rambis for the head coaching job and this was the best available compromise? Is this even a PJ hire or is this a sign that PJ has lost his autonomy for decision making for this franchise?
Probably never going to know the answers to some of those questions, at least not in the immediate future.
After losing out on Thibs, I was fine with either Vogel, Hornachek, or Blatt. All 3 were solid albeit somewhat flawed candidates. I was even fine with Rambis, if it meant PJax was more involved with Xs & Os.
Jeff should've received a Nobel Prize for having that PHO team in playoff contention in the WC...
Blaming JH for the mounting Ls would be akin to saying Thibs could never get his team over the playoff hump and take his potent regular season to an NBA Finals (unlike Stan "the man" Van Gundy).
Mike Woodsen did a decent job.... Other than that, most NYK HCs since JVG have been rotten.
Nothing matters if we don't improve our G play. Jeff is a system coach... Not a triangle guy per se, but is a believer in unity and fluidity and movement... Not ISO and P&R...
He must have blown the socks off of Phil with his interview because he's had no connection with Phil in the past.
I'm going to guess he's going to run some sort of motion offense but not a strict triangle offense though he probably had answers to Phil's questions about integrating the triangle into his offensive philosophy. He's more known as a players coach who is more offensive oriented than a defensive coach but his teams can play defense.
I think Hornacek won't run a strict triangle offense because I think PJ would have more respect for a coach that demanded to run his own system. But let's see what happens to Rambis, if he becomes the lead asst, maybe PJ and him agreed Rambis would run the offense and teach him the triangle.
So in other words it didn't really matter who we interviewed or who we hired you were going to support it. Okay
But back to Phx they started sputtering back half of season his second yr right before the trade deadline. He at one point had Dragic/Bledsoe/Thomas(name a better trio collection of individual guards than these 3) but fans were wondering what the heck they were doing with all those guards. So they traded Thomas along with Dragic got back Knight and all of sudden they did too much roster tinkering? Every move they made during his tenure honestly was about a wash. He didn't even play Booker until all the guards were injured. Earl Watson basically developed Booker.
As if we have the talent now on our squad as they had then...competing in an ever improving Eastern Conference. It's not so much Phx record either vs what kind of player development imprint/foundation did he leave there? Like what was Phx known for his whole time there? So what do we hang our hat on with Hornacek? He was a heckuva player though and I'm sure he knows the game, but still.
Last edited by Broadway; May 18, 2016 at 20:59.
Sure, I'm cool with whatever coaching hire b/c all the options were equally bland. And since the decision doesn't put cash in my bank account, how does it serve me to get rankled?
PHO probably had a better roster than ours, b/c their strength were guards... But the West a couple seasons ago much better than EC this season.
I probably preferred Thibs, Blatt, Vogel all before JH... But this is the NBA and you need players... Especially guards... So getting worked up one way or another over the HC is foolish. Blatt is ten times better coach than Lui but look at CLE now.
If Hornacek was that guy we would have clamored for him back at the very beginning of February when he was fired. He was really on no one's radar, let's stop the dog and pony show here. Phil only recently contacted him like a week or two ago. Matter of fact seems like he got connected with him after he interviewed with Sacramento, like "oh yeah I forgot you're available too."
He's probably a good dude, has knowledge of the game but there is a lot involved in being a head coach especially with a team "WHO'LL PROBABLY HAVE AS MUCH ROSTER TURNOVER SIMILAR TO PHX" not to mention learning and implementing the triangle to Phil's satisfaction...not sure about this sell mafra. Everything is not meant to be sold.
Can't wait for the presser. That's the first question that's going to be asked "What happens to the triangle offense"?
People that wanted to dump it may have hope yet because no one thought PJ would hire someone not in the triangle Mafia.
If we hire Rambis, PJax is accused of being narrow-minded and only plucking fruit from his own tree... Just last week or so, NYK getting killed for not looking outside comfort zone... As many said we were rubber stamping the Rambis hire.
Now we go outside the box, and we blast the decision bc he wasn't on anybody's radar? I could care less about what's on another's radar.
To me, Vogel, Blatt, Rambis, Shaw, JH, Ewing, MJax, even Walton... All were just meh hires. So, either way... Big whoppie doo... Ergo, I was fine either way.
I wanted Thibs but I'm not going to get all emotional over these things.
Either we get talent (and guards) or we start planning on our lottery pick next year.
Last edited by Broadway; May 18, 2016 at 22:02.