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    Well the Knicks definatley need atleast 1 more big for the rest of this season, showing a weakness inside last night against the Bucks. If they can grab someone who can rebound and play some D down low, they may be able to make some noise in the playoffs this year. Possibly even winning a series for the first time in forever.

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    The quicker we can sign him, the quicker we can get him into the rotation. We need BIGS in the playoffs and if not him then look into someone else. But we need a BIG now...

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    I would like to see us do one of the following two things:

    (1) Buy out Azu & Mason Jr (no need to keep either now that we have Corey Brewer) and sign 2 D-League all-stars: C Marcus Cousin & PF Jeff Adrien. Cousin is big (6'11" 255) and skilled -- he can score the ball (very good mid-range jumpshooter) and he can also run the floor and compete on the glass for rebounds..Speaking of rebounding, Adrien's the top rebounder in the DL plus his offense has come a long way since U-Conn (not that it was ever terrible)..I'd love to add these two on the cheap and go to war..TOGETHER, they would both address EXACTLY what we're lacking in a big way, namely 2-way production at center and rebounding..Who knows if they came in and played well maybe we could ink them up on the cheap long-term.

    (2) Sign Troy Murphy if & when Golden State buys him out..6'11" 250 or so, dude's always been a good rebounder when healthy and he can shoot the ball well from deep. Won't clog the middle for STAT and co -- he's much more of a perimeter big man on offense..Yet he always managed to get his 10 rebounds a game when he was right.

    Please no Jared Jeffries!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    nooo CAMBY!!

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    Leon Powe has been released by the Cavs. I wonder if management will look into him. Can rebound and play some defence

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    Bleh.. Powe is small at 6'8. I want SIZE. He is a good rebounder and hustles tho.

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    Originally Posted by finestrg
    I would like to see us do one of the following two things:

    (1) Buy out Azu & Mason Jr (no need to keep either now that we have Corey Brewer) and sign 2 D-League all-stars: C Marcus Cousin & PF Jeff Adrien. Cousin is big (6'11" 255) and skilled -- he can score the ball (very good mid-range jumpshooter) and he can also run the floor and compete on the glass for rebounds..Speaking of rebounding, Adrien's the top rebounder in the DL plus his offense has come a long way since U-Conn (not that it was ever terrible)..I'd love to add these two on the cheap and go to war..TOGETHER, they would both address EXACTLY what we're lacking in a big way, namely 2-way production at center and rebounding..Who knows if they came in and played well maybe we could ink them up on the cheap long-term.

    (2) Sign Troy Murphy if & when Golden State buys him out..6'11" 250 or so, dude's always been a good rebounder when healthy and he can shoot the ball well from deep. Won't clog the middle for STAT and co -- he's much more of a perimeter big man on offense..Yet he always managed to get his 10 rebounds a game when he was right.

    Please no Jared Jeffries!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What's up my brotha! Glad to see you posting on these forums. Good to see a familiar face.

    TOTALLY agree with everything you just said, especially the part about Jeff Adrien. We both think he could add some much needed toughness to our bench. JYD part deux!

    Interesting pick of Marcus Cousin. First time I'm hearing about him. Any scouting reports you got on the guy?

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    What's up my brotha! Glad to see you posting on these forums. Good to see a familiar face.

    TOTALLY agree with everything you just said, especially the part about Jeff Adrien. We both think he could add some much needed toughness to our bench. JYD part deux!

    Interesting pick of Marcus Cousin. First time I'm hearing about him. Any scouting reports you got on the guy?
    Jeff Adrien just got signed to play in GS again

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    Originally Posted by la2ny
    Jeff Adrien just got signed to play in GS again
    Well that sucks.


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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    What's up my brotha! Glad to see you posting on these forums. Good to see a familiar face.

    TOTALLY agree with everything you just said, especially the part about Jeff Adrien. We both think he could add some much needed toughness to our bench. JYD part deux!

    Interesting pick of Marcus Cousin. First time I'm hearing about him. Any scouting reports you got on the guy?
    What up big dog! Good to be here bro..Thanks for letting me know about this site!

    Sucks to hear about Adrien, huh? WTF..Golden State strikes again. They have to lead the league in worthwhile DL callups--just add Adrien to their ever-growing list. It would appear they beat us to him although I'm having trouble confirming he's going back to the Warriors..Nothing on the Warriors team website, nothing on the NBDL site, nothing about it on the ESPN Warriors forum..la2ny, where are you hearing Adrien resigned with GS bro? You got a link for us?

    On Cousin, first time I saw this dude play was back in January during the D-League Showcase that was being televised on the NBA channel. Managed to catch the Austin Toros back then and I just saw Cousin play last weekend in the NBDL all-star game. I came away very impressed..Dude's a good player..Nice size, good athleticism, and fundementally sound---what stands out the most is his ability to drain mid-range jumpers like water..EXCELLENT touch from 15-20 feet for a guy that big. Plus he rebounds the ball & competes hard around the rim on both ends. Hits his FTs too..He was a 4-year player for the Houston Cougars but I honestly don't remember him in college (anytime I tuned in to watch Houston I guess I just had tunnel vision on Aubrey Coleman, trying to see what he was all about). There's a few good clips on youtube of Cousin doing his thing -- as soon as i figure out how to post clips here I'll put them up.

    I really wanted Cousin AND Adrien. You know me, I get worked up over things that have zero chance of happening---we're probably not interested in DL players at all.. Guaranteed Donnie and Mike have no idea who this guy is, even though they should..It's their job to know about these players..

    Anyway, just reading on hoopshype that Jared Jeffries is a strong possibility to be signed by NY after his buy out (say it ain't so, this dude sucks) and also that the Knicks are confident a buyout can be reached with Jerome Jordan's Serbian team so it looks like we might be thinking about bringing him back over to the states this year...As raw as Jordan is, I'd take him over Jeffries, that's what I think of Jeffries..What's up with the Warriors and Troy Murphy? They buying him out or what? Murphy's a guy I'd scoop up right away if GS cuts him loose & he's healthy. Guy used to be a double-double threat every night. He actually wouldn't be a bad option at center for us. At least Murphy's got some good skills to hang his hat on -- outside shooting and rebounding..Jeffries, meanwhile, bring so little to the party.
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    Marcus Cousin highlights:





    The public address guy in the Portsmouth clip is a moron -- dude's name is pronounced CU-ZON not Cousin..LOL.

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    Originally Posted by finestrg
    What up big dog! Good to be here bro..Thanks for letting me know about this site!
    My pleasure. Seems like a good group of guys here. Glad you could join.

    Sucks to hear about Adrien, huh? WTF..Golden State strikes again. They have to lead the league in worthwhile DL callups--just add Adrien to their ever-growing list. It would appear they beat us to him although I'm having trouble confirming he's going back to the Warriors..Nothing on the Warriors team website, nothing on the NBDL site, nothing about it on the ESPN Warriors forum..la2ny, where are you hearing Adrien resigned with GS bro? You got a link for us?
    Just found the article. Too bad, this guy would have made a perfect bench player for this team. Dude is intense & plays with a lot of anger, I love that type of player.

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    On Cousin, first time I saw this dude play was back in January during the D-League Showcase that was being televised on the NBA channel. Managed to catch the Austin Toros back then and I just saw Cousin play last weekend in the NBDL all-star game. I came away very impressed..Dude's a good player..Nice size, good athleticism, and fundementally sound---what stands out the most is his ability to drain mid-range jumpers like water..EXCELLENT touch from 15-20 feet for a guy that big. Plus he rebounds the ball & competes hard around the rim on both ends. Hits his FTs too..He was a 4-year player for the Houston Cougars but I honestly don't remember him in college (anytime I tuned in to watch Houston I guess I just had tunnel vision on Aubrey Coleman, trying to see what he was all about). There's a few good clips on youtube of Cousin doing his thing -- as soon as i figure out how to post clips here I'll put them up.
    Was just about to compare his skillset to Jordan Hill while watching those YouTube highlights, ironically he's having his way with Jordan in that 2nd clip.

    Anyway, just reading on hoopshype that Jared Jeffries is a strong possibility to be signed by NY after his buy out (say it ain't so, this dude sucks) and also that the Knicks are confident a buyout can be reached with Jerome Jordan's Serbian team so it looks like we might be thinking about bringing him back over to the states this year...As raw as Jordan is, I'd take him over Jeffries, that's what I think of Jeffries..
    You know MDA, he's in love with the guy. I would much prefer a more physical presence in the paint, not a guy like Jeffries he gets pushed around easily inside & he's got about the ugliest J i've ever seen. He hustles, I'll give him that much, but I woulda preferred we go after a nastier player inside.

    What's up with the Warriors and Troy Murphy? They buying him out or what? Murphy's a guy I'd scoop up right away if GS cuts him loose & he's healthy. Guy used to be a double-double threat every night. He actually wouldn't be a bad option at center for us. At least Murphy's got some good skills to hang his hat on -- outside shooting and rebounding..Jeffries, meanwhile, bring so little to the party.
    Last I heard he was going to be bought out & probably join up with the Celtics, I think that's why they made that Luke Harangody trade to clear roster slots. I think he'd add some good rebounding & shooting but he's gotta be real rusty by now, no? MDA would jizz his pants if we got him though.
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    Jeffries rebounds decently (and will probably be better than he was the first time around because David Lee was hogging all the boards back then) and plays defense.

    We need all the rebounding and defense we can get, especially since we only have 2 people on our roster taller than 6'10.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Jeffries rebounds decently (and will probably be better than he was the first time around because David Lee was hogging all the boards back then) and plays defense.

    We need all the rebounding and defense we can get, especially since we only have 2 people on our roster taller than 6'10.
    I don't have a problem w/Jeffries on a minimum contract, he can serve a purpose. What I object to is MDA's unnatural fascination with playing this guy big minutes. If he's coming in to fill a minor role off the bench I got no problems w/bringing him back, but I have a problem he'll be taking minutes away from other guys who might otherwise have been getting run in the rotation. My guess is Corey Brewer is probably the odd man out now, which is a shame I would have liked to see him get a shot to see what he could bring to the formula.

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