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    Originally Posted by KingofNy
    I don't even bother responding to people when they get mad when I say stuff like Antoni mismanages his roster and style of play but I learned it's easier to let it go and be bigger than the other person.

    As far as missing Brewer you are exactly right, Antoni and Walsh screwed the pooch on that one. What's funny is that AR is better than both Brewer and Jeffries but he never really got a shot and then ended up getting traded for a guy that Antoni basically forced out the door. So, we traded a ton of assets for nothing...If people don't get that I'm not even gonna bother arguing with them. You see what I'm sayin?
    That's another reason D'Antoni got ran out of Phoenix he plays who he likes not who can help the team.. hopefully with Carmelo, Chauncey, Amare he will open the depth of the bench as seen tonight...We have and have had talent rot on our bench truthfully he pissed curry right out of basketball and if curry joins the heat he will probably become a knick killer because of D'Antoni....I agree he must go give me Marc Jackson as coach... oh trust me I respond only because i'm bored nobody talking Knicks basketball but you and I and the hater is still posting hate...hmmm...he's must love the attn so I'll make him famous until he gets a headache

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    Originally Posted by Sons of Thunder
    I completely agree with you re: JJ but I have to wonder whether Brewer could have done that same job. Maybe he would have been disgruntled while doing it? Are we paying JJ a considerable amount less than Brewer and thereby saving money? No, that's not possible because we bought out his contract. I wish we had some closure on this issue, because I think a lot of people are left scratching their heads on the whole thing.

    As for the great offensive production from the supporting cast tonight, I wonder how good/motivated that NO team actually is. I'd love to see those kinds of performances continue against some of the better teams.
    N.O. looks miserable at appeared that Chris Paul was like screw this game at points last night

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    Jeffries has nothing to prove. He will be called upon when needed to play defense its that simple. His role will be defined as DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE.

    Everyone talks about winning,,,,,,U can only have a 10 man rotation.

    Off the Bench
    Parker
    Douglas
    Turiaf
    Jeffries
    williams
    walker

    there is no room for anyone else......

    I hated Jeffires in the past because who needed a solid defender when we losing 67% of our games....Now we are an offensive machine and he strictly a 'ROLE PLAYER"

    remember we need role players...


    If the Heat are picking up CURRY before BREWER does that not say something.....

    LOOK HOW FAR WE HAVE COME....
    Last 5 years we complained how bad our team was
    This year how we needed another superstar
    Now we are arguing over who should be our 10th man in the rotation...

    We are like a bunch of whiny little girls....

    Got to love it

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    Originally Posted by SELDOM-SEEN
    "Yawn" What time is your mommy getting up for work?
    The edit option is very useful in this forum.Too bad there isn't one in the real world to help improve your way of living.

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    Originally Posted by SELDOM-SEEN
    That's another reason D'Antoni got ran out of Phoenix he plays who he likes not who can help the team.. hopefully with Carmelo, Chauncey, Amare he will open the depth of the bench as seen tonight...We have and have had talent rot on our bench truthfully he pissed curry right out of basketball and if curry joins the heat he will probably become a knick killer because of D'Antoni....I agree he must go give me Marc Jackson as coach... oh trust me I respond only because i'm bored nobody talking Knicks basketball but you and I and the hater is still posting hate...hmmm...he's must love the attn so I'll make him famous until he gets a headache
    I heard Curry did join the Heat and you're right about him running players out of Phoenix. Just getting Melo and Billups has forced Antoni's hand now and he's basically forced to have us play D or he knows he's going to lose his job. The fans also have a big say in the matter as WE pay all of their salaries.

    Did you notice what happened tonight? The fans started chanting for Mason Jr. and Antoni put him in. I think Melo and Billups will end up getting their way or else they'll force Antoni right out of a job... and p.s. I'm loving it.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Jeffries has nothing to prove. He will be called upon when needed to play defense its that simple. His role will be defined as DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE.

    Everyone talks about winning,,,,,,U can only have a 10 man rotation.

    Off the Bench
    Parker
    Douglas
    Turiaf
    Jeffries
    williams
    walker

    there is no room for anyone else......

    I hated Jeffires in the past because who needed a solid defender when we losing 67% of our games....Now we are an offensive machine and he strictly a 'ROLE PLAYER"

    remember we need role players...


    If the Heat are picking up CURRY before BREWER does that not say something.....

    LOOK HOW FAR WE HAVE COME....
    Last 5 years we complained how bad our team was
    This year how we needed another superstar
    Now we are arguing over who should be our 10th man in the rotation...

    We are like a bunch of whiny little girls....

    Got to love it
    Honestly it's the hype and excitement of finally being of the brink of competing for the big chip...We have enough pieces to start the puzzle but we just can't finish it.. we need some more pieces and we'll shock the world...and even with the pieces we do have we might be able to put something together that can get us over this yr...its that type of team and that type of yr

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    Originally Posted by KingofNy
    I heard Curry did join the Heat and you're right about him running players out of Phoenix. Just getting Melo and Billups has forced Antoni's hand now and he's basically forced to have us play D or he knows he's going to lose his job. The fans also have a big say in the matter as WE pay all of their salaries.

    Did you notice what happened tonight? The fans started chanting for Mason Jr. and Antoni put him in. I think Melo and Billups will end up getting their way or else they'll force Antoni right out of a job... and p.s. I'm loving it.
    lol...hell I noticed that the crowd wanted Roger and he put him in... D'Antoni knows man this is NY he has to work his cards right now utilize all his options or he will get chased right out of town

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Jeffries has nothing to prove. He will be called upon when needed to play defense its that simple. His role will be defined as DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE.

    Everyone talks about winning,,,,,,U can only have a 10 man rotation.

    Off the Bench
    Parker
    Douglas
    Turiaf
    Jeffries
    williams
    walker

    there is no room for anyone else......

    I hated Jeffires in the past because who needed a solid defender when we losing 67% of our games....Now we are an offensive machine and he strictly a 'ROLE PLAYER"

    remember we need role players...


    If the Heat are picking up CURRY before BREWER does that not say something.....

    LOOK HOW FAR WE HAVE COME....
    Last 5 years we complained how bad our team was
    This year how we needed another superstar
    Now we are arguing over who should be our 10th man in the rotation...

    We are like a bunch of whiny little girls....

    Got to love it
    The problem is our bench guys get exposed against good teams. Our bench scored 11 against Orlando. 11 points. Enough said. Also, Antoni wasn't having us play hardly any defense before the trade. We might of got a good quarter of D maybe every 5th game or something but our guys played more D in the last week than they've played all season. Just look at how we're actually playing defense now. It's great.

    I admit that I hate JJ from the past and even more so because we lost Brewer because Antoni wanted JJ and didn't play him. Brewer is really good and can score but never got a shot. Since when is it o.k. to trade for a guy and then buy him out a week later. I get it if he's the second part of the trade but he was the main attraction SEPARATE from the Melo deal. Where's the sense in that?

    IMO Antoni handled that whole situation wrong and I don't think he deserves a pass for it just like he doesn't for not playing AR and forcing him out of town. I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Troy Murphy didn't want to come here because they knew they wouldn't see the court. Don't you see this?

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    Originally Posted by KingofNy
    The problem is our bench guys get exposed against good teams. Our bench scored 11 against Orlando. 11 points. Enough said. Also, Antoni wasn't having us play hardly any defense before the trade. We might of got a good quarter of D maybe every 5th game or something but our guys played more D in the last week than they've played all season. Just look at how we're actually playing defense now. It's great.

    I admit that I hate JJ from the past and even more so because we lost Brewer because Antoni wanted JJ and didn't play him. Brewer is really good and can score but never got a shot. Since when is it o.k. to trade for a guy and then buy him out a week later. I get it if he's the second part of the trade but he was the main attraction SEPARATE from the Melo deal. Where's the sense in that?

    IMO Antoni handled that whole situation wrong and I don't think he deserves a pass for it just like he doesn't for not playing AR and forcing him out of town. I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Troy Murphy didn't want to come here because they knew they wouldn't see the court. Don't you see this?
    Yeah that has been the problem and talk about us all around the league that Dolan never cared about winning but filling seats....now with the attraction of Melo, Chauncey, Stat and Fields playing superb ball more stars will want to join us...its just that players actually hate D'Antoni around the league...he is hated by many players

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    Originally Posted by SELDOM-SEEN
    Yeah that has been the problem and talk about us all around the league that Dolan never cared about winning but filling seats....now with the attraction of Melo, Chauncey, Stat and Fields playing superb ball more stars will want to join us...its just that players actually hate D'Antoni around the league...he is hated by many players
    That's obvious to me with all the decent players that got bought out we got the bottom of the barrel guys for the same price the other teams paid for Murphy, Bibby, ect.

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    Originally Posted by KingofNy
    The problem is our bench guys get exposed against good teams. Our bench scored 11 against Orlando. 11 points. Enough said. Also, Antoni wasn't having us play hardly any defense before the trade. We might of got a good quarter of D maybe every 5th game or something but our guys played more D in the last week than they've played all season. Just look at how we're actually playing defense now. It's great.

    I admit that I hate JJ from the past and even more so because we lost Brewer because Antoni wanted JJ and didn't play him. Brewer is really good and can score but never got a shot. Since when is it o.k. to trade for a guy and then buy him out a week later. I get it if he's the second part of the trade but he was the main attraction SEPARATE from the Melo deal. Where's the sense in that?

    IMO Antoni handled that whole situation wrong and I don't think he deserves a pass for it just like he doesn't for not playing AR and forcing him out of town. I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Troy Murphy didn't want to come here because they knew they wouldn't see the court. Don't you see this?

    You are giving much too much credit to D'antonio.....Walsh calls the shots not him......The reason we took Brewer was to try and use him as trade bait with Balkman so we can get rid of balkmans 3 years.

    we were never supposed to get Brewer. REMEMBER this is Walsh not the coach who makes these decisions....

    After watching the Miami game and seeing their bench I like where we stand. Remember we gave up Chandler ( our 6th man ) and Mozgov....Those 2 were a much stronger bench.....

    At this time of year the best you could do is find players that can make a difference in a game...

    Williams....we know he can shoot and at times plays good D
    Douglas ,,,,U saw tonight what he can do.
    Walker....great rebounding against heat
    Jeffries....Need him to guard Rose, Rondo, Joe Johnson, Wade
    Parker....good defense.....experience

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    Originally Posted by SELDOM-SEEN
    Yeah that has been the problem and talk about us all around the league that Dolan never cared about winning but filling seats....now with the attraction of Melo, Chauncey, Stat and Fields playing superb ball more stars will want to join us...its just that players actually hate D'Antoni around the league...he is hated by many players
    I thought Dantoni was actually a big reason why players want to come to NYC. They love to play in his system. The ones that complain the most about Dantoni, are just guys who couldn't earn minutes and usually out of shape.

    On a side note, I thought it was interesting that Jefferies was the only negative in the plus minus portion of the stats. He definitely needs more time to get used to our new lineup. I really wish he'd stop turning the ball over.

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    meant carter not parker

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    Originally Posted by Sons of Thunder
    I completely agree with you re: JJ but I have to wonder whether Brewer could have done that same job. Maybe he would have been disgruntled while doing it? Are we paying JJ a considerable amount less than Brewer and thereby saving money? No, that's not possible because we bought out his contract. I wish we had some closure on this issue, because I think a lot of people are left scratching their heads on the whole thing.

    As for the great offensive production from the supporting cast tonight, I wonder how good/motivated that NO team actually is. I'd love to see those kinds of performances continue against some of the better teams.
    Yeah bro, I was highly disappointed that we let Brewer go without even so much as a look in this system, but a lot of things MDA does frustrates me this is nothing new. He never gave AR much of a chance either & first game out in Minny where he plays over 20 minutes he goes & puts up 19 & 10. We've also seen Darko put up some solid #'s for the T'Wolves & be a defensive presence in the paint this season, something we really could have used all year. It would be nice if our head coach could detach himself from playing personal favorites & just go with the players that have the most talent & skillset to get the job done out on the floor. Trust me I would much rather have seen Brewer get play instead of buying him out to clear way for Jeffries, but there's no sense in growing frustrated over something we know we have no control over anyway.

    On a happier note, I was pleased to see Roger Mason get some minutes at the end of the game today, I think he's conducted himself like a true professional ever since he got here when he could have very easily grown frustrated & asked to be bought out instead because he wasn't getting any minutes. It's not like he was some end of the bench scrub where he was playing before either, he was a starter for a championship calibre team not too long ago. My guess is his attitude is what made DW choose to keep him around, maybe he thinks having guys like that around will be good for some of our young guys like Douglas, Walker, Rautins & Fields to emulate. I guess I can understand that kind of reasoning. I don't think we bought Brewer out because of a bad attitude though, he wasn't here long enough for MDA to even get any type of feel for him at all. I just think MDA had it resigned in his brain that the Knicks would bring his boy Jeffries back which pretty much left Brewer out in the cold with no role to play, so Donnie did his agent a solid & waived him so he could catch on with another team like the Mavs where he could have a role in a playoff run, who I've heard are planning on signing him to a multi-year extension when he clears waivers at around the $2 million dollar range per year. At least he's not signing with the Celtics or Heat. That woulda been insult to injury.

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    ]That's obvious to me with all the decent players that got bought out we got the bottom of the barrel guys for the same price the other teams paid for Murphy, Bibby, ect.[/QUOTE]

    WHO HATES HIM......
    Nate Robinson..now on his 3rd team
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    Larry Hughes...career done
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    come on

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