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    Default Is this team good enough for Phil to want to coach now

    Not that I am a Dantoni hater, I serioulsy think starting now is when we can accuratley assess (spelled wrong) him as a coach, but if it doesnt work out and Phil does indeed retire from The Lakers would he coach this Knicks team down the road?

    For sure he would be mentioned as a canidate!!!

    Years ago this was a hot topic, but Phil Jackson said it in his book he never really gave thought to coaching The Knicks, not the Patrick Ewing,Spree,H20 squad in 99 and certainley not The Isiah assembled squad when the rumor re-serviced, the latter at which he basically laughed about.

    But Phil has been rather outspoken about Mia's "Big 3" and his lack of belief in how good they can be, but he has to know while his Laker team would knock them off this year if they faced off, that for years to come they would eventually dominate his squad....which I beleive has something to do with his retirement (or resignation) as Lakers coach.

    Not to mention D Wade poking fun at him saying "He wants to be our next coach" probably did not go over well w/ Phil and you gotta think he would love to block them from being a dynasty like his 90's Bulls squad.

    So where could he go to actually challenge them? When you look at the whole league NY would make the most sense in that regard

    Problem is that at the end of the day Phil wants more than just two superstars on his team but rather the two best players in The NBA, but if NY got a player like Deron Williams then maybe he breaks that trend.


    We'll see!!!!

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    Forget about Phil Jackson. He doesn't deserve to coach this Knicks team. He wanted nothing to do with us when we had Ewing & he still wanted nothing to do with us during the past 10 years. He could care less about helping the Knicks become great; he wants a great team already in place so he can take the credit. Jackson always wants a silver spoon of roster talent. No heart if you ask me. Every coach wins with great players, but how great would Jackson have been without MJ & Pippen or Shaq & Kobe? I'd bring back Van Gundy way before Jackson.

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    Phil Jackson isn't even that great of a coach he was just always blessed with great players

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Phil Jackson isn't even that great of a coach he was just always blessed with great players
    so true, how can you really measure a teams success when you have two of the best players(arguably) arguably to play the game, along side with a perfect supporting cast..besides, kobe ignores the triangle offence.

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    The same can also be said about Bill Billichek or however you spell his last name. 5 or 6 seasons with Cleveland & only had 1 winning season & playoff birth. First year with NE... No playoffs. Than Bledsoe went down, Brady came in & thats all she wrote. But Jackson is still a much better coach than that guy, but Phil was always blessed with the best of the best. No thanks on Jackson; let him retire or coach another team.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksFanFromQueens1985
    let him retire or coach another team.
    I think he'll take a year off and then after that who knows. It'll depend upon if he still has the desire to coach and if a job opens up with a ready-to-win-big team.

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    I've never been a huge fan of Phil's. I think he is done after this eyar. He will try for his fourth three-peat (that is impressive) and then retire with his millions.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksFanFromQueens1985
    Forget about Phil Jackson. He doesn't deserve to coach this Knicks team. He wanted nothing to do with us when we had Ewing & he still wanted nothing to do with us during the past 10 years. He could care less about helping the Knicks become great; he wants a great team already in place so he can take the credit. Jackson always wants a silver spoon of roster talent. No heart if you ask me. Every coach wins with great players, but how great would Jackson have been without MJ & Pippen or Shaq & Kobe? I'd bring back Van Gundy way before Jackson.
    Back in the real world? Yeah you'd rim the guy when he brought you the gold, which is what he does, wherever he goes.

    He doesn't have great teams already in place, he makes great teams and then he sustains them to become dynastys. He's arguably the greatest coach that ever lived and if he even thought about coaching the Knicks at any point in the future we'd instantly become the favourites to be the next dynasty regardless of what anyone else was doing.

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    You guys are crazy to say you wouldn't want Jackson to coach the Knicks. I like MDA, but i'd kick em to curb in a hot sec if PJ had serious interest in coaching my team.
    Pop and PJ are the two best personality/ bench managers in the game. It's what sets them apart.

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Phil Jackson isn't even that great of a coach he was just always blessed with great players
    And when he has great players he wins multiple rings.


    But these are all moot points honestly. Phil is old, he wants one last threepeat and then he is going to ride into the sunset, and he will never coach again.
    If D'antoni is ever fired, I want Bill Laimbeer to coach this team, or maybe Doc Rivers if he decides to retire for a year or so as was speculated after last season.

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Phil Jackson isn't even that great of a coach he was just always blessed with great players
    What year did u start watching the NBA?

    Phil Jax first season with the Lakers he was given 4 ALL-STAR Laker players
    on the roster. He traded Van Exel & Eddie the same month the Lakers hired
    him, Jax only kept two of the Lakers ALL-STARS to start his first season
    coaching the Lakers. Rookie contract Kobe and no-defense Shaq.
    Phil Jax built a three-peat Dynasty in L.A. while making Kobe & Shaq HOF
    super-stars.

    Phil Jax quit the Chicago Bulls b/c their organization owner/management
    got pig-head crazy like the Knicks owner/management, the same
    Knicks owner/management that made Pat Riley quit the Knicks.

    If u want to build a Championship team Phil Jax is the man to talk to.

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    Originally Posted by Stat4mvp
    And when he has great players he wins multiple rings.


    But these are all moot points honestly. Phil is old, he wants one last threepeat and then he is going to ride into the sunset, and he will never coach again.
    If D'antoni is ever fired, I want Bill Laimbeer to coach this team, or maybe Doc Rivers if he decides to retire for a year or so as was speculated after last season.
    Thats what I'm talking about. Bill Laimbeer the next truly great coach...

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Thats what I'm talking about. Bill Laimbeer the next truly great coach...
    Well I'm happy with who we've got for now, if gives reason to think otherwise at the end of this season then so be it.

    If you do want Laimbeer then now would be the time to strike given I'd assume he'd be quite hot on the idea of managing the Celtics.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    Not that I am a Dantoni hater, I serioulsy think starting now is when we can accuratley assess (spelled wrong) him as a coach, but if it doesnt work out and Phil does indeed retire from The Lakers would he coach this Knicks team down the road?

    For sure he would be mentioned as a canidate!!!

    Years ago this was a hot topic, but Phil Jackson said it in his book he never really gave thought to coaching The Knicks, not the Patrick Ewing,Spree,H20 squad in 99 and certainley not The Isiah assembled squad when the rumor re-serviced, the latter at which he basically laughed about.

    But Phil has been rather outspoken about Mia's "Big 3" and his lack of belief in how good they can be, but he has to know while his Laker team would knock them off this year if they faced off, that for years to come they would eventually dominate his squad....which I beleive has something to do with his retirement (or resignation) as Lakers coach.

    Not to mention D Wade poking fun at him saying "He wants to be our next coach" probably did not go over well w/ Phil and you gotta think he would love to block them from being a dynasty like his 90's Bulls squad.

    So where could he go to actually challenge them? When you look at the whole league NY would make the most sense in that regard

    Problem is that at the end of the day Phil wants more than just two superstars on his team but rather the two best players in The NBA, but if NY got a player like Deron Williams then maybe he breaks that trend.


    We'll see!!!!
    the only good thing..other than his experience...about Phil jackson coachin ghte knicks is that.. with his triangle offense.. you really dont need a convential PG...TD would be just as good..if not better.. than fisher was

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Thats what I'm talking about. Bill Laimbeer the next truly great coach...
    I do not see Laimbeer wanting any part of a crazy and clueless big franchise
    like the Knicks. Laimbeer wouldve been the perfect Knicks headcoach (with
    assistant Mark Aquire) when we had Curry/Zach/Lee/Chandler/Marbury/and
    Nate. Laimbeer wouldve cleaned house by having consecutive winning
    seasons.

    Why the Knicks did not think "Big n Small" go to guys (scorers) in their
    2010-Plan offseason bewilders my compliments to president Donnie Walsh.
    Donnie Walsh was given the golden oportunity to "sign n trade" our UFA
    double-double David Lee. Amare & Felton had already committed to the
    Knicks (before July 9th) days ahead of the Lee trade to GS.
    SG-Ellis wouldve been the prime candidate player for an "even" trade for
    David Lee, plus Ellis creative scoring ability is what PG-Felton needed as a
    backcourt tandem (Felton is not a scorer). Felton is a 30 mpg PG that will
    get some easy open baskets within 30 minutes of leading the point (no
    forcing shots).
    When u are looking to build a NBA contender u must know the right
    ingredients......

    Look at the "two" complete position that won NBA Championship Trophies in the past decade:
    C-Shaq & SG-Kobe,
    PF-Duncan & SG-Ginobli,
    C-Shaq & SG-D.Wade
    PF-Rasheed & SG-Rip,
    PF-KG & SG-Ray Allen
    PF-Gasol & SG-Kobe.
    The SG-position with a dominating bigman has been the TWO top important
    positions of building a top contender team in the NBA.

    P.S. Donnie Walsh and all the justifying Knick-Fans can not justify/argue/or debate the trade acceptance of SG-Mobley failing the trade-physical with a career-injury on a two year contract. Nor can they mention the foolishness of trading for SG-Azu whom 85% of the NBA analyst doubted he would be recovered from injury to perform in his final contract season. This is why all the publicity of the trade was thrown on the athleticism of a young Anthony Randolph.

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