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    Default Basketball Champions Offensive and Defensive ratings (last 15 years)

    I think some people on here think I and others are hating on D'Antoni because we just like to.

    I am posting this thread not to debate about it more, but to show that our concerns on his defensive ratings and his lack of attention to it are almost certainly going to cost us a championship.

    Please find below the offensive and defensive ratings for the championship teams for the past 15 years. You will find only one occasion where the defensive rating was outside the top ten during the regular seasons (That team's defensive rating (Lakers) was top ten during the playoffs).

    Let us be clear about this.

    Defensively:
    • Only 1 out of the last 15 teams who won a championship had a defensive rating outside the top 10 (6%)
    • 14 out of the 15 teams were rated a top 10 defensive team (93%)
    • 11 out of the 15 teams were top 5 in defensive ratings (73%)
    • 13 out of the 15 teams were top 7 in defensive ratings (87%)
    • 5 out of the 15 teams were number 1 in the league in defensive rating (33%)
    Offensively:
    • Just 2 out of the 15 teams were best in the league offensively (13%)
    • 3 out of 15 teams won a championship with offense ratings outside the top ten (20%). Meaning it is 3x's more likely you will win a ring with offense outside the top ten than defense outside the top ten. AKA, Defense is more important than offense.
    • 9 out of the 15 teams were outside the top 5 offensively (60%)
    Combined
    • 11 out of the 15 teams were BOTH top ten in offense and defense.
    • 3 of the 4 who were not top ten in both offense and defense, were a top ten defensive team.
    Moral of the story is that only one team in the last 15 years was not in top 10 in defense. ONE. Of course that was the 2001 Lakers (never show up during the regular season). I checked their defensive ratings in the regular season compared to the playoffs. They raised their defensive rating to top of the league during the playoffs (only lost one game during the entire playoffs). So, even then, they were still one of the elite defensive teams in the playoffs. This makes EVERY team that won a championship for the past 15 years a top 10 defensive team.

    In the end, you want a balanced offense and defense, but the stats below ultimately prove that defense is more important. If you have offense outside the top 10 in the regular season, you stand a 20% chance of winning a championship. Still really bad odds, but, much better when compared to teams who fell outside of the top 10 defensive teams in the regular season (6%).

    You need a balance. You need offense and defense; but, if you are going to sacrifice one, you sacrifice offense and not defense. I'm not willing to put my odds at winning a championship at 6% (and that is provided MDA can make the Knicks a top defensive team during the playoffs).... Just not going to do it.

    Hopefully these stats show that I and others are not hating on MDA for no reason. We see a pattern -- bad defense doesn't win championships. This is why we call for a new coach or a coach who will stress D.

    Sure, we can be that 2001 Lakers anomaly with MDA as our coach (which really wasn't an anomaly when you see what the Lakers did defensively in the playoffs), but my questions are:
    • Wouldn't you rather be a part of the 93% group who won with defense? (100 percent when you look at the Lakers in the playoffs)
    • Doesn't that gives us a much better chance, no?
    Ultimately everyone on this board wants what's best for the Knicks. These stats show that being a top 10 defensive team is what is best for the Knicks. Do you really want to take a chance on a coach that has NEVER had a top 10 defensive team?

    Stats:

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    2010:
    Lakers: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 108.8 (11th of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 103.7 (4th of 30)

    2009:
    Lakers: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 112.8 (3rd of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 104.7 (6th of 30)

    2008:
    Celtics: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 110.2 (10th of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 98.9 (1st of 30)

    2007:
    Spurs: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 109.2 (5th of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 99.9 (2nd of 30)

    2006:
    Heat: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 108.7 (7th of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 104.5 (9th of 30)

    2005:
    Spurs: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 107.5 (8th of 30) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 98.8 (1st of 30)

    2004:
    Pistons: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 102.0 (18th of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 95.4 (2nd of 29)

    2003:
    Spurs: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 105.6 (7th of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 99.7 (3rd of 29)

    2002:
    Lakers: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 109.4 (2nd of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 101.7 (7th of 29)

    2001:
    Lakers: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 108.4 (2nd of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 104.8 (21st of 29)

    2000:
    Lakers: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 107.3 (5th of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 98.2 (1st of 29)

    1999:
    Spurs: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 104.0 (11th of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 95.0 (1st of 29)

    1998:
    Bulls: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 107.7 (9th of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 99.8 (3rd of 29)

    1997:
    Bulls: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 114.4 (1st of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 102.4 (4th of 29)

    1996:
    Bulls: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 115.2 (1st of 29) ▪ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 101.8 (1st of 29)
    Last edited by MusketeerX; Mar 12, 2011 at 19:32.

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