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    Good win for the Nuggets

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    Denver Knigutts beat the SPURS!! Improve to 11-4 since the trade and undefeated at home!! Good game!!

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    I'm a fairly new poster here but been following the forum and game threads for quite some time here.

    This loss to the magic, especially the 4th qtr just compelled me to post.

    Melo is solid. Other than the pistons game where he bricked all night, he almost always gave decent effort on defense. Tonight he looked to move the ball with the assists column backing that up.

    Knicks made adjustment to the game plan to get Melo more comfortable with his shots, but Stat just looked the odd man out tonight. But the recent 4th qtr meltdowns..... man, its just disheartening. MDA is supposed to be an offensive genius so where's the 4th qtr offense in his playbook? Knicks were down by 5 with under 2 mins to go, this is the moment where coaches do their thing and get their stars to make plays.

    I dont wanna throw this all on MDA; knicks have alot of holes on this roster still. but coach is supposed to make lemonade with his lemons and surely getting shots in the 4th is not supposed to be the hard part of the equation. I'm not gonna comment on defense, blah blah, cos that's too easy. But getting Stat some shots closer to the bucket should really be his strength. I'm starting to miss Ray's speed, defenders abuse billups old legs when he comes off screens.

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    Default The Knicks will be ok...eventually.

    This season is a waste; we shouldn't get so worked up about it. You don't change a whole team and expect great play right away. By next season, with the help of a defensive center and wing defender, and maybe a new coach, the Knicks will be a top 3 seed.

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    Remember when Ama're led the NBA in scoring in the 4th quarter? Where did that Stoudemire go?

    Is it me, or did ORL score on every possession in the final 8 minutes?

    If Howard is going to sink free throws... ORL might go to the Finals.

    Let's not freak out folks. This team may backslide into the playoffs... but they are post season bound. After the last 10 years, this is something. I would at least hope we can finish 41-41... but, ultimately, this season boils down to what they do in the first round.

    If NY gets swept or bows out in 5 games... RIP AWAY.

    Still, this team will be fixed. We have 2 super stars. This is the hardest thing to acquire. We will build a core around these guys.

    It's almost over. Ten more games or so. We get BOS, CHI or MIA... then let's see what we are really made of when the lights are turned on brightly.

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    Originally Posted by ballbegood
    I'm a fairly new poster here but been following the forum and game threads for quite some time here.

    This loss to the magic, especially the 4th qtr just compelled me to post.

    Melo is solid. Other than the pistons game where he bricked all night, he almost always gave decent effort on defense. Tonight he looked to move the ball with the assists column backing that up.

    Knicks made adjustment to the game plan to get Melo more comfortable with his shots, but Stat just looked the odd man out tonight. But the recent 4th qtr meltdowns..... man, its just disheartening. MDA is supposed to be an offensive genius so where's the 4th qtr offense in his playbook? Knicks were down by 5 with under 2 mins to go, this is the moment where coaches do their thing and get their stars to make plays.

    I dont wanna throw this all on MDA; knicks have alot of holes on this roster still. but coach is supposed to make lemonade with his lemons and surely getting shots in the 4th is not supposed to be the hard part of the equation. I'm not gonna comment on defense, blah blah, cos that's too easy. But getting Stat some shots closer to the bucket should really be his strength. I'm starting to miss Ray's speed, defenders abuse billups old legs when he comes off screens.
    GREAT POST. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I couldn't agree more.

    1) This is my biggest beef with Mike D'antoni. Like you wrote, forget about bashing his defense... It is what it is. You know what you're getting from MD. What bothers me most... late in games when we need a score, when we need to get someone an open look, where is this beautiful mind that is supposedfto be MD's offensive genius?

    We saw it when Crawford was getting last second shots, when Al or N8 were getting the ball, and the one common theme from the MD era is just that... Knicks have one possession left in the game and going for tie or win... HOw often do we not only see a poorly designed play, but how many times to we even really see a player get a solid, open, high % look at the basket? Not often enough for an offensive genius, and certainly not enough to warrant this style of defense.

    This leads to other common theme during MD's tenure here in NY.... He's never exceeded expectations. FOR ONCE, make lemonade out of lemons. At least go for par... 3 years in a row we fall below even our modest expectations.

    2) Amar'e was TERRIBLE late last night. One possession, ORL had the ball and was up by 4 or 5... They miss a shot and he just watched the guy drive to the hoops and failed to do anything to prevent or alter anything. Then, as he stood wacthing, he doesn't even both to halfway box his man, or even attempt to make body contact. Of course his man grabs the rebound and puts it back up. GOOD.

    I'm tired watching every PF in the NBA excel on the offensive side against Amar'e. I know far too many of these no-name chumps now. Too many than I should know. From Hansbrough to Bass, you name a PF and chances are their season's best game came against Amar'e. This has to stop.

    Amar'e must get stronger. Simple as that. This is almost David Lee-esque.

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    ^I saw that play as well mafra, he just walked right by Amar'e and amare didn't even put his hand out to stop him. it was pitiful. Amar'e was our 4th qtr. guy. He lead the league in 4th quarter scoring and that was what was winning us games. Lately he's been taking possesions off, especially on the defenseive end. It's getting pretty bad. Our defensive hole in the front court is glaringly obvious.

    On a positive note I really liked JJ's and Turiaf's game. Turiaf is FINALLY making/taking some of those open looks. I also saw some picknrolls with amar'e and melo and that was very difficult for orlando to stop. If we can utilize that more often, with the ball in melo's hand and him making plays for guys like amar'e and turiaf, then we'll do much better. I loved this game for melo, he looked much more comfortable.

    I had predicited we would have decent games agan;t boston and orland, but that we would **** the bed against the bucks. I think I was wrong, i think that with Melo starting to get it, we'll start to get better. billups is putting too much pressure on himself to integrate melo and this offense. Melo can do that on his own now. It's time for chauncy to play his own game now, and settle down the 3pt shooting. I know he's a sniper but still, only take the open look CB.

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    We reached an outstanding record of 7-10, meanwhile somewhere in the Wild West a team, that sold its mustached superstar is 11-4, we made a better deal.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    GREAT POST. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I couldn't agree more.

    1) This is my biggest beef with Mike D'antoni. Like you wrote, forget about bashing his defense... It is what it is. You know what you're getting from MD. What bothers me most... late in games when we need a score, when we need to get someone an open look, where is this beautiful mind that is supposedfto be MD's offensive genius?

    We saw it when Crawford was getting last second shots, when Al or N8 were getting the ball, and the one common theme from the MD era is just that... Knicks have one possession left in the game and going for tie or win... HOw often do we not only see a poorly designed play, but how many times to we even really see a player get a solid, open, high % look at the basket? Not often enough for an offensive genius, and certainly not enough to warrant this style of defense.

    This leads to other common theme during MD's tenure here in NY.... He's never exceeded expectations. FOR ONCE, make lemonade out of lemons. At least go for par... 3 years in a row we fall below even our modest expectations.

    2) Amar'e was TERRIBLE late last night. One possession, ORL had the ball and was up by 4 or 5... They miss a shot and he just watched the guy drive to the hoops and failed to do anything to prevent or alter anything. Then, as he stood wacthing, he doesn't even both to halfway box his man, or even attempt to make body contact. Of course his man grabs the rebound and puts it back up. GOOD.

    I'm tired watching every PF in the NBA excel on the offensive side against Amar'e. I know far too many of these no-name chumps now. Too many than I should know. From Hansbrough to Bass, you name a PF and chances are their season's best game came against Amar'e. This has to stop.

    Amar'e must get stronger. Simple as that. This is almost David Lee-esque.
    EXACTLY why i made my amares heart thread he gets burned night in nigh out to guys on the same level as kwame brown

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    Apparently STAT is tired he's worn out from the minutes load. MDA alluding to that too. Funny I don't think MDA had much concern about burning him out when he would play him for 40 minutes a game & refused to play any of our other bigs early in the season.

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    that pisses me off. okay, it was clear to me that amare may have been tired. but do u think Garnett lets any chump PF walk past him ? wheres the pride ?

    anyway my earlier post was more about beef with D'Antoni.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    GREAT POST. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I couldn't agree more.

    1) This is my biggest beef with Mike D'antoni. Like you wrote, forget about bashing his defense... It is what it is. You know what you're getting from MD. What bothers me most... late in games when we need a score, when we need to get someone an open look, where is this beautiful mind that is supposedfto be MD's offensive genius?

    We saw it when Crawford was getting last second shots, when Al or N8 were getting the ball, and the one common theme from the MD era is just that... Knicks have one possession left in the game and going for tie or win... HOw often do we not only see a poorly designed play, but how many times to we even really see a player get a solid, open, high % look at the basket? Not often enough for an offensive genius, and certainly not enough to warrant this style of defense.

    This leads to other common theme during MD's tenure here in NY.... He's never exceeded expectations. FOR ONCE, make lemonade out of lemons. At least go for par... 3 years in a row we fall below even our modest expectations.

    2) Amar'e was TERRIBLE late last night. One possession, ORL had the ball and was up by 4 or 5... They miss a shot and he just watched the guy drive to the hoops and failed to do anything to prevent or alter anything. Then, as he stood wacthing, he doesn't even both to halfway box his man, or even attempt to make body contact. Of course his man grabs the rebound and puts it back up. GOOD.

    I'm tired watching every PF in the NBA excel on the offensive side against Amar'e. I know far too many of these no-name chumps now. Too many than I should know. From Hansbrough to Bass, you name a PF and chances are their season's best game came against Amar'e. This has to stop.

    Amar'e must get stronger. Simple as that. This is almost David Lee-esque.
    nice posts.

    Stat is just tired...poor dude is earning that money 4sure. The coach needs to monitor his minutes and find away for him not to over exert himself on both ends of the court. Bad positioning schemes on the defense is wearing him and the team out...physically as well as mentally.

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