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    I think Melo/Howard would be the best 1/2 in the League. Melo could gun all he wants and Howard would clean up his mess...Beastin'...Howard's our missing Link

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    ORL FO: "Mr. Walsh, we would like to trade Dwight Howard for Mr. STAT."

    Donnie Walsh: "Get those signed papers here by the hour and I'll throw in anyone that's not a Syracuse alum."
    So Rautins is safe too!

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    Originally Posted by Deathstroke
    So Rautins is safe too!
    Why yes, we want a home grown player to keep, too.

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    Nah just off of principal

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    Originally Posted by moneyg
    anybody that would not do this trade is either related to STAT or STAT himself.... but you will always find your occasional idiot...

    there is no comparison
    I wouldn't. Stoudamire is far more talented than Howard. Howard is annoying to watch. He's useless outside the key and shoots around 11 free throws per game. Defensively I'm even better than Stoudamire, but i'd rather the Knicks sign a cheaper, yet proper Center, and let Stoudamire stay on to finish what he came here to do. I will repeat what I've said in the past: Howard is an average center playing in below average times.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to give Toronto a thrashing.

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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    I wouldn't. Stoudamire is far more talented than Howard. Howard is annoying to watch. He's useless outside the key and shoots around 11 free throws per game. Defensively I'm even better than Stoudamire, but i'd rather the Knicks sign a cheaper, yet proper Center, and let Stoudamire stay on to finish what he came here to do. I will repeat what I've said in the past: Howard is an average center playing in below average times.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to give Toronto a thrashing.
    Ok I don't wanna bash you here but...

    Stoudemire might be better offensively, a bit. But Howards defense is incomparably better.

    Howard also has the baseline midrange jumper which he hit 3/3 on us just last week.

    Now I can understand some people would rather get a cheaper C and fill holes, that's fine but to argue Dwight is an "average center" is crazy talk!

    He is pretty much 50/50 with Rose in terms of who people think is the MVP, he lead a team with no other stars to the NBA finals and even his #2 Jameer Nelson was out injured for most of those playoffs.

    The guy is nowhere near "average".

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Ok I don't wanna bash you here but...

    Stoudemire might be better offensively, a bit. But Howards defense is incomparably better.

    Howard also has the baseline midrange jumper which he hit 3/3 on us just last week.

    Now I can understand some people would rather get a cheaper C and fill holes, that's fine but to argue Dwight is an "average center" is crazy talk!

    He is pretty much 50/50 with Rose in terms of who people think is the MVP, he lead a team with no other stars to the NBA finals and even his #2 Jameer Nelson was out injured for most of those playoffs.

    The guy is nowhere near "average".
    I'd like to see him even make the playoffs with his team in the 90's. He's lucky that centers are a species near extinction. Of course he's better than Stoudamire defensively; Anthony Carter would be better marking a big. That doesn't detract the fact that Howard's strength is in the key and if you eliminate that with solid defence then he is useless. I can't remember any other games where he made most shots outside the key. I'm sticking to my opinion of him. I may be wrong, but he's not sold me.

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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    I wouldn't. Stoudamire is far more talented than Howard. Howard is annoying to watch. He's useless outside the key and shoots around 11 free throws per game. Defensively I'm even better than Stoudamire, but i'd rather the Knicks sign a cheaper, yet proper Center, and let Stoudamire stay on to finish what he came here to do. I will repeat what I've said in the past: Howard is an average center playing in below average times.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to give Toronto a thrashing.
    This is one of the more inane statements i've seen on the forum in the last couple of months. This and your comments in the game forum last week about Howard show a real deficit of understanding of what makes a player like him great.

    You should read up on him a bit more, watch some more footage, maybe read a scouting report or two..

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    This is one of the more inane statements i've seen on the forum in the last couple of months. This and your comments in the game forum last week about Howard show a real deficit of understanding of what makes a player like him great.

    You should read up on him a bit more, watch some more footage, maybe read a scouting report or two..
    I'd be lying if I said I've seen enough of him to make as educated a decision as I have on Stoudamire. Still he's one of those players that I have taken an instant dislike to. Every time I watch an Orlando game he seems to get all these soft foul calls go his way and heads for the free throw line every other play. Can't fault him too much defensively but he just annoys the **** out of me. Maybe partly because I think his abilities have been blown out of proportion.

    Am I biased....Probably

    Do I think he would be placed in the great centers category if this was the mid 90's? No $%&ing way.

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    Originally Posted by moneyg
    anybody that would not do this trade is either related to STAT or STAT himself.... but you will always find your occasional idiot...

    there is no comparison
    While I don't wanna call someone else an idiot for there opinion, I have to agree 100%....there is absolutly NO reason why you wouldn't do this trade if your the Knicks.

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    Originally Posted by PaPZ187
    While I don't wanna call someone else an idiot for there opinion, I have to agree 100%....there is absolutly NO reason why you wouldn't do this trade if your the Knicks.
    Well I can think of one reason...


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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    I'd be lying if I said I've seen enough of him to make as educated a decision as I have on Stoudamire. Still he's one of those players that I have taken an instant dislike to. Every time I watch an Orlando game he seems to get all these soft foul calls go his way and heads for the free throw line every other play. Can't fault him too much defensively but he just annoys the **** out of me. Maybe partly because I think his abilities have been blown out of proportion.

    Am I biased....Probably

    Do I think he would be placed in the great centers category if this was the mid 90's? No $%&ing way.
    While I am not crazy about Howard either and don't think he has the skills to be compared to the Centers of the 90's, he is still the best C in the game today and its mainly due to his strength and size.

    I am not crazy about the guy but there's no denying he is the top C in the game today and would be a no brainer to trade STAT for him, IMO ofcourse.

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    Dwight in this era, or the last previous 5 eras would still be dominant. The kid is still getting better offensively, he is as strong as 10 turiafs, and at 6'10 he has a 40 inch vert.

    Howard still has a rediculous upside. This should be a no brainer. I dont see how anyone could question it. Amare is top 5 offensively at his position, but dwight is top 2 offensively and defensively at his position. Cmon

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    Dwight Howard would have been a monster against Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Smitz, DM, Shaq, Mourning... It doesn't matter which generation; the man is a BEAST. I've never seen a 7 footer jump like Howard. The man is as strong as a truck, he's the youngest player in NBA histroy to record 7-8,000 rebounds (that doesn't happen by fluke) & he's the best defensive Center I've seen since Alonzo Mourning. He puts opposing C's & PF's trying to double in quick foul trouble because he can't be moved down low... Players try their hearts out but can't stop fouling the man. Who cares if he doesn't shoot a jump shot? lol when have you seen Shaq shoot jumpers? Pretty much never. Dwight does have a better outside game than Shaq ever did though. This man can turn any defense into a top 10 defense by his damn self. He DOMINATES the boards on the glass. Even an All-Time great in Ewing said Dwight is a great "true" Center. I pray to god that D-Will leaves NJ or else Howard could end up in Brooklyn with Lopez @ PF... CHAMPIONSHI(s)

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    Originally Posted by PaPZ187
    While I am not crazy about Howard either and don't think he has the skills to be compared to the Centers of the 90's, he is still the best C in the game today and its mainly due to his strength and size.

    I am not crazy about the guy but there's no denying he is the top C in the game today and would be a no brainer to trade STAT for him, IMO ofcourse.
    He's def the best center around. I just don't think he has the brains or skill to become a brilliant player. My main issue with him is not Howard himself; it's all those that make him out to be some potential legend when we've seen BIG's like Patrick Ewing, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Dikembe Mutombo, Abdul Jabbar, Arvidas Sabonis et al, grace the court. I'll take Stoudamire any day on my team instead of Howard, and avoid having to tolerate the hot air that's pumped into him on a daily basis.

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