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    Default I Like Billups!

    We need this dude in order to win come playoffs.

    If anything it's glaringly obvious this is his ship (and i don't want to put too much pressure on him- but i know he can handle it).

    Previous 10 Games APG5.6 PPG17.8

    Shooting 41%.

    Thank goodness his injury isn't as bad as the last.

    Vs TOR he dropped 13 & 9

    CLE 23 & 7

    NJ 33 & 6 (against Williams)

    ORL 17 & 6

    All important wins. He's worth what Donnie says he's worth.
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    How could you not like Billups? He struggled after that injury against Howard, but leg injuries effect every part of your game! We've all been there.

    I really hope his injury's minor and only keeps him out against Indiana.

    We need him back, even in limited minutes, against Chicago and Boston for the sake of more of that jelling we so critically need.

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    I agree with Crazy on that one. Great thread too. His numbers wern't anything to write home about tonight, but while Billups ran the offense for 3 quarters? Our offense was smooth, ball movement was excellent & we were dominating the game & up I believe 13 when Billups went down. After Billups got hurt? The offense wasn't the same. Ball movement stopped. The team felt the effects of losing Billups & it became a mental block. They cut the lead down to 1 point. Billups has played his ass of & if we have any dreams of serioulsy contending... Billups must be 100%. We need Billups back for CHI & BOS to shake off any rust that could follow.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    How could you not like Billups? He struggled after that injury against Howard, but leg injuries effect every part of your game! We've all been there.

    I really hope his injury's minor and only keeps him out against Indiana.

    We need him back, even in limited minutes, against Chicago and Boston for the sake of more of that jelling we so critically need.
    Don't know... smoking drugs?


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    We need to rest him as much as possible leading into the playoffs to make sure his knee isn't an issue. On the other hand he needs to gain that chemistry w/his teammates & that can only happen by playing minutes. Hopefully banging that knee tonight isn't gonna hamper him much the rest of the way, if the Knicks want to get anywhere in the playoffs this year it's absolutely essential that Chauncey is able to perform at a high level.

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    Co Signing on this here thread

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    Originally Posted by STAT1
    We need to rest him as much as possible leading into the playoffs to make sure his knee isn't an issue. On the other hand he needs to gain that chemistry w/his teammates & that can only happen by playing minutes. Hopefully banging that knee tonight isn't gonna hamper him much the rest of the way, if the Knicks want to get anywhere in the playoffs this year it's absolutely essential that Chauncey is able to perform at a high level.
    I almost feel like saying the trade deadline is "the half way point" is a blatant lie. Its more like the 2 quarter mark. There was what- 20 something games left? I hope they can work on this, making the tdl and allstar game a bit earlier, leaving teams time to gel after making moves.

    But yeah he said he was good, I expect a rest for NJ Friday for him and Stat, and we NEED that 2nd unit to develop into a force during these last few days.

    Nothing sucks more than chemistry issues f*cking things up when we go to our bench. Good opportunity here.

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    Red... How can you "blame MDA" for the Knicks blowing a 19 point lead in the MDA thread, but yet, praise Billups as the player & leader he is? Anyone who watched the game knew why we blew the lead; and it had nothing to do with MDA & everything to do with the team as a whole. MDA cant run the PG position bud.

    Anything to credit the players when the team is up & blame "the coach" when the team is down. Happens all the time.

    You also stated last night wasn't a great win, when I made it known it was a great win. We came up CLUTCH during the closing minutes/seconds of the game during a time where we without our offensive leader in Billups running the Point. We went into Philly & beat a Philly team that has an outstanding record @ home. We're on our 1st 5 game win streak under Melo. We took back the 6th seed. Our defense played great on the road. It was a great win.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksFanFromQueens1985
    Red... How can you "blame MDA" for the Knicks blowing a 19 point lead in the MDA thread, but yet, praise Billups as the player & leader he is? Anyone who watched the game knew why we blew the lead; and it had nothing to do with MDA & everything to do with the team as a whole. MDA cant run the PG position bud.

    Anything to credit the players when the team is up & blame "the coach" when the team is down. Happens all the time.

    You also stated last night wasn't a great win, when I made it known it was a great win. We came up CLUTCH during the closing minutes/seconds of the game during a time where we without our offensive leader in Billups running the Point. We went into Philly & beat a Philly team that has an outstanding record @ home. We're on our 1st 5 game win streak under Melo. We took back the 6th seed. Our defense played great on the road. It was a great win.
    I didn't blame coach for almost blowing the lead. Not his fault our floor leader got hurt.

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    I will keep this on topic instead of derailing and trolling like others did in my thread about Billups.

    I'm not sure how anyone can post 5.6 APG(its actually 5.2 with 2.1 TO's) as a good thing from a PG in this system who has 2 of the top 5 scorers in the league to feed. That is my main issue and all we can really expect from Billups if you look at his historical tendencies. I also have to point out that Billups was getting abused by Holiday off the dribble last night and only had 3 points and a big fat ZERO assists before being injured. Add in his 14 mil contract and I'm not sure how anyone could advocate Billups as our PG moving forward. He is locked in this year but it is imperative that we use his contract in a trade or buy him out next year in order to fill more important needs than a score first PG. Billups brings leadership and an above average 3 point shot and there is no denying that but with limited cap flexibility it is all about priorities. I submit that priority number one is getting a a PG who can maximize our stars and priority number two is to find a center who can rebound/defend. Billups 14million contract next year makes that nearly impossible.

    That said, I hope Billups can OVERACHIEVE beyond his historical numbers and comes back healthy for the playoffs. The Knicks have a thin roster and need him playing his best to have any shot in the post season so lets hope he can recover quickly. I do not dislike Billups personally and I respect his achievements, I just maintain that he is not the the right PG for this roster especially at 14 mil a year.
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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    I will keep this on topic instead of derailing and trolling like others did in my thread about Billups.

    I'm not sure how anyone can post 5.6 APG(its actually 5.2 with 2.1 TO's) as a good thing from a PG in this system who has 2 of the top 5 scorers in the league to feed. That is my main issue and all we can really expect from Billups if you look at his historical tendencies. I also have to point out that Billups was getting abused by Holiday off the dribble last night and only had 3 points and a big fat ZERO assists before being injured. Add in his 14 mil contract and I'm not sure how anyone could advocate Billups as our PG moving forward. He is locked in this year but it is imperative that we use his contract in a trade or buy him out next year in order to fill more important needs than a score first PG. Billups brings leadership and an above average 3 point shot and there is no denying that but with limited flexibility it is all about priorities. I submit that priority number one is getting a a PG who can maximize our stars and priority number two is to find a center who can rebound/defend. Billups 14million contract next year makes that nearly impossible.

    That said, I hope Billups can OVERACHIEVE beyond his historical numbers and comes back healthy for the playoffs. The Knicks have a thin roster and need him playing his best to have any shot in the post season so lets hope he can recover quickly. I do not dislike Billups personally and I respect his achievements, I just maintain that he is not the the right PG for this roster especially at 14 mil a year.
    His poise and leadership are invaluable. Its the Derek Jeter effect.

    The "W"'s say it all.

    If we are comparing Billups -vs- Felton contractaully, talent going forward, fitting into the system etc... I totally understand your points.

    Felton fits my formula "younger-cheaper-better"- I get that.

    BUT in reality making the playoffs (this year) with Felt would warrant questions. Can he handle the pressure, his matchups with the better pg's etc...?

    With Billups (this year) its safe to assume, not only can he perform stat wise on par with Felt, but those grace under fire questions aren't there with Billups (even with his age 34).

    I think I'm saying, once CB got the offense down, we are MORE confident in him. Having a repoire with Melo doesn't hurt either.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksFanFromQueens1985
    Red... How can you "blame MDA" for the Knicks blowing a 19 point lead in the MDA thread, but yet, praise Billups as the player & leader he is? Anyone who watched the game knew why we blew the lead; and it had nothing to do with MDA & everything to do with the team as a whole. MDA cant run the PG position bud.

    Anything to credit the players when the team is up & blame "the coach" when the team is down. Happens all the time.

    You also stated last night wasn't a great win, when I made it known it was a great win. We came up CLUTCH during the closing minutes/seconds of the game during a time where we without our offensive leader in Billups running the Point. We went into Philly & beat a Philly team that has an outstanding record @ home. We're on our 1st 5 game win streak under Melo. We took back the 6th seed. Our defense played great on the road. It was a great win.
    It was a great win in terms of record and seeding but definitely not a good win performance wise. The top teams, unilke PHI, will figure out a way to regain and hold the lead.

    Those clutch shots you speak of is fine but you don't want to have to make those to win games, especially in the playoffs where every game is vital.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    It was a great win in terms of record and seeding but definitely not a good win performance wise. The top teams, unilke PHI, will figure out a way to regain and hold the lead.

    Those clutch shots you speak of is fine but you don't want to have to make those to win games, especially in the playoffs where every game is vital.
    Co-sign.

    A good win, not a quality one.

    And that changed when we lost a leader in CB. Had he remained, it would've been a route

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    I will keep this on topic instead of derailing and trolling like others did in my thread about Billups.

    I'm not sure how anyone can post 5.6 APG(its actually 5.2 with 2.1 TO's) as a good thing from a PG in this system who has 2 of the top 5 scorers in the league to feed. That is my main issue and all we can really expect from Billups if you look at his historical tendencies. I also have to point out that Billups was getting abused by Holiday off the dribble last night and only had 3 points and a big fat ZERO assists before being injured. Add in his 14 mil contract and I'm not sure how anyone could advocate Billups as our PG moving forward. He is locked in this year but it is imperative that we use his contract in a trade or buy him out next year in order to fill more important needs than a score first PG. Billups brings leadership and an above average 3 point shot and there is no denying that but with limited cap flexibility it is all about priorities. I submit that priority number one is getting a a PG who can maximize our stars and priority number two is to find a center who can rebound/defend. Billups 14million contract next year makes that nearly impossible.

    That said, I hope Billups can OVERACHIEVE beyond his historical numbers and comes back healthy for the playoffs. The Knicks have a thin roster and need him playing his best to have any shot in the post season so lets hope he can recover quickly. I do not dislike Billups personally and I respect his achievements, I just maintain that he is not the the right PG for this roster especially at 14 mil a year.
    Just about everyone agrees that 14 mil is too much for Billups so can you PLEASE put that to rest now???

    So now your using this ONE game and referencing his stats before leaving for an injury to help validate your point? Funny dude.

    Did you even watch the game last night or did you just wake up to ESPN and study the box score? TD is clearly nowhere near ready to be a starting pg. If he isn't scoring, he has no clue how to run a smooth offense. That being said, I'm all for Billups being our pg at the most 1 or 2 more years (for a smaller salary).

    I guess you'd prefer to have Duhon back since he passes the ball but would also be a liabilty on offense in crunch time. lol

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    Give it up TR1LL1ON. How about you take notes of his stats & list them during the games he was healthy. MIL, MIA, ORL & our last 5 games? Because it proves that fans who support Billups support him because he's a good PG. Felton was gone no matter what for Melo. Denver hated the idea of losing Billups. I'm thankful we stole him away as a piece that may have not been there. It was the Knicks who forced DEN to up their offer with Billups.

    Forget "stats". Anyone who watched the game last night loved the ball movement & we only had 2 turnovers last night. Once Billups went out? The offense started to struggle like never before & even blew a huge lead.

    Stop talking about his contract. He earned that contract from DEN due to his greatness with Detroit. Has nothing to do with the Knicks. Has Melo signed an extension with NY? Yes. Thats a NYK contract for Melo. Has NY extended the contract of Billups? My point exactly bro. No team will ever give a 35 year old PG 14-15 Million per. Thats damn near a MAX contract.

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