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    When I see Garnot resort to tripping and dirty plays as he's accostumed to

    and the Celtics rely on the refs to bail them out...

    I see a weak reeling team, primed for the taking. Add when I see Allan jumping around in such joy to suggest he SHOULD have lost this game...

    IT TELLS ME, WE HAVE THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. WE'RE BETTER. THEY KNOW IT. WE WILL WIN!

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    Originally Posted by Red
    When I see Garnot resort to tripping and dirty plays as he's accostumed to

    and the Celtics rely on the refs to bail them out...

    I see a weak reeling team, primed for the taking. Add when I see Allan jumping around in such joy to suggest he SHOULD have lost this game...

    IT TELLS ME, WE HAVE THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. WE'RE BETTER. THEY KNOW IT. WE WILL WIN!
    Its still a foul weather it is intentional or not, but I really dont think he tried to trip TD to set up the open 3 for Allen. I think he was just coming over to set a pick and TD kind of ran over his outstretched foot and tripped. It happens. Thats when a ref should keep the whistle in his pocket. But if you are going to keep it in your pocket on that play, that same ref had no business calling that ticky tack foul on Melo the play before.

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    Originally Posted by KingofNy
    We didn't lose this game because of Antoni, even though a lot of times we do. We lost this game because the NBA didn't want us to win and the refs called the game accordingly.

    The refs gave the Celtics multiple second chance opportunities to get back into the game and then to close it out at the end. Go back and watch the phantom foul called on Melo against Pierce in the corner where the refs gave them 3 free points to take the lead. Or how about calling a tic-tac foul on Melo with :22 seconds remaining in the game and then not calling Garnett for BLATENTLY tripping Douglas to open up the Ray Allen game winning shot. I'm in the progress of putting together a bad call compilation video on youtube to let you guys see what I saw and call out these corrupt refs and league/commish.

    Sorry guys but it all comes down to money and a Boston/Miami series will pull in more money than a Knicks/Miami series. Maybe we'll get the calls next year if we get another big name. Who knows... All I know now is it's obvious we have no chance to win if we're playing the Celtics and the refs. F*CK THE NBA, F*CK THE REFS, and F*CK DAVID STERN!
    +1 my dude. Stern is retarded! I know alot of peole who would rather see NY vs MIA second round, but it shouldnt be about money anyway. This is a sport where it should be about the teams and the fans, not about getting some fat loser rich!

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    Originally Posted by miked1958
    Its still a foul weather it is intentional or not, but I really dont think he tried to trip TD to set up the open 3 for Allen. I think he was just coming over to set a pick and TD kind of ran over his outstretched foot and tripped. It happens. Thats when a ref should keep the whistle in his pocket. But if you are going to keep it in your pocket on that play, that same ref had no business calling that ticky tack foul on Melo the play before.
    Take a look at the video, then let me know. "Outstretched foot" (while moving) is the very definition of an ILLEGAL SCREEN!

    This was a poorly officiated game period. Lawrence Frank entering the field of play during the last shot was missed also. But a questionable offensive foul called on Melo was acceptable...?smh with 21 seconds and a 1 point lead!

    Unheard of.

    Poor officiating. Poor choice to neglect Amare for seven of the final possessions (I thought it was 5).

    ITS ON COACH TO RECTIFY THIS BEFORE THINGS REALLY GO SOUTH. IF anything this should provide the motivation we need going forward.

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    Originally Posted by miked1958
    Its still a foul weather it is intentional or not, but I really dont think he tried to trip TD to set up the open 3 for Allen. I think he was just coming over to set a pick and TD kind of ran over his outstretched foot and tripped. It happens. Thats when a ref should keep the whistle in his pocket. But if you are going to keep it in your pocket on that play, that same ref had no business calling that ticky tack foul on Melo the play before.
    I agree with your point. It might not have been intentional, but the ref has to make that call when they called that B.S. on Melo when PP was draped over him.

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    BLATANT EVIDENCE

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    MELO 5-18 fg 2-8 tp
    Billups 3-11 fg 2-6 tp

    3-5 calls dont make up for that

    Melo has to be melo

    our superstar and best scorer cant drop 15 pnts in a playoff gm and expect to beat the celtics.

    whens the last time youve seen

    kobe
    dirk
    amare
    wade
    lebron
    durant

    score 15 pnts on 5-18 shooting and beat a team like the celtics ?

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    Originally Posted by Red
    That was a cheap shot. "Why we lost" this game has nothing to do with Melos shot.

    Who was responsible for Amare NOT getting touches FIVE... FIVE... FIVE clutch possessions down the stretch?

    The real crime will be not learning from this.

    Believe-me that is not a cheap-shot aimed at Melo.....this is not the
    first, second, or third year Melo has demanded the ball in the playoff to
    only perform like a role-player.
    Its not the loss....its the final 11 seconds of getting to the line to tie the score.
    We want better decision-making than Jamal Crawful (Carmelo).
    Melo had Ray defending him with Rondo running towards him, Melo was
    suppose to drive to the basket to get fouled and stop the clock.

    Beating Boston in Boston in the playoffs has a long history of being a hard
    task for some Knicks-great players like.... Clyde & Reed, Cartwright & 50
    points Bernard King, Ewing & Mark Jackson, but none of these great players
    tried to be an individual-Hero.....u recall all the 3-balls Starks shot in the
    4th quarter of the FINALS vs Houston in the 6th game....that Hero move of
    Starks turned Knick-teammates off.

    How do u think Knick-teammates feel today watching the final 11 seconds
    of last night game, which was suppose to go into OVERTIME???

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Believe-me that is not a cheap-shot aimed at Melo.....this is not the
    first, second, or third year Melo has demanded the ball in the playoff to
    only perform like a role-player.
    Its not the loss....its the final 11 seconds of getting to the line to tie the score.
    We want better decision-making than Jamal Crawful (Carmelo).
    Melo had Ray defending him with Rondo running towards him, Melo was
    suppose to drive to the basket to get fouled and stop the clock.

    Beating Boston in Boston in the playoffs has a long history of being a hard
    task for some Knicks-great players like.... Clyde & Reed, Cartwright & 50
    points Bernard King, Ewing & Mark Jackson, but none of these great players
    tried to be an individual-Hero.....u recall all the 3-balls Starks shot in the
    4th quarter of the FINALS vs Houston in the 6th game....that Hero move of
    Starks turned Knick-teammates off.

    How do u think Knick-teammates feel today watching the final 11 seconds
    of last night game, which was suppose to go into OVERTIME???
    kiya while i agree with what your saying, truthfully you cant solely blame melo for what happened in the final minute of that game that lead to us losing

    offensive foul to negate a made 3 by tony douglas in the corner
    billups out with an injury
    ray allen open corner three before his gw three
    pierce hit some biggggg shots
    Kevin garnett dirty dirty diry
    douglas not getting amare the ball 7 times down the floor in a row
    amare missing 2 big free throws
    poor defensive strategy by dantoni and genius offensive play calling by rivers on that lob to garnett to pull them within 1
    a terrible offensive call by the ref
    and a terrible no call on the end by the ref

    you can only mark this game up to be what it was

    a really good playoff game, that shows the knicks are capable of playing defense, we just didnt execute, and catch any breaks.

    Im actually proud of our team.

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS


    BLATANT EVIDENCE
    All I can say is wow! That hurts man. Douglas should have complained afterwards so it got more media attention.

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    I thought this was going to be about how we couldnt rebound to save our lives last night. But yea the refs did suck too.

    Coulda shoulda woulda...We gotta get ready to play tuesday.

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    Originally Posted by DontForgetDerekHarper
    MELO 5-18 fg 2-8 tp
    Billups 3-11 fg 2-6 tp

    3-5 calls dont make up for that

    Melo has to be melo

    our superstar and best scorer cant drop 15 pnts in a playoff gm and expect to beat the celtics.

    whens the last time youve seen

    kobe
    dirk
    amare
    wade
    lebron
    durant

    score 15 pnts on 5-18 shooting and beat a team like the celtics ?
    Really? I'll address your and Kiya's post from the same perspective.

    HOW CAN EITHER OF YOU PRIMARILY MENTION MELO WITHOUT...

    1. Mentioning a Landry Fields AND HIS ZERO STAT LINE?
    We were UP!!!!!! UP!!!! Most of the game even with Melo's 15. Melo DIDN'T LOSE THIS GAME PERIOD, long/poor shot or not.

    2. Where were the objectionable calls!!!! Where is your mention of this?

    Players, all players have off nights. Where is your mention of Amare NOT geting a touch in the final SEVEN POSSESSIONS!!!! SEVEN!!!!!!

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Believe-me that is not a cheap-shot aimed at Melo.....this is not the
    first, second, or third year Melo has demanded the ball in the playoff to
    only perform like a role-player.
    Its not the loss....its the final 11 seconds of getting to the line to tie the score.
    We want better decision-making than Jamal Crawful (Carmelo).
    Melo had Ray defending him with Rondo running towards him, Melo was
    suppose to drive to the basket to get fouled and stop the clock.

    Beating Boston in Boston in the playoffs has a long history of being a hard
    task for some Knicks-great players like.... Clyde & Reed, Cartwright & 50
    points Bernard King, Ewing & Mark Jackson, but none of these great players
    tried to be an individual-Hero.....u recall all the 3-balls Starks shot in the
    4th quarter of the FINALS vs Houston in the 6th game....that Hero move of
    Starks turned Knick-teammates off.

    How do u think Knick-teammates feel today watching the final 11 seconds
    of last night game, which was suppose to go into OVERTIME???
    I KNOW IT was aimed at Melo. You're scapegoatng him.

    Again having an issue with him is fine. What's not cool is the neglect in mentioning ALL the other factors that lead to this (And more loses) throughout? Where?

    Coach not protecting the back door play?
    Not going to Amare?
    Poor officiating?

    No real play called for the final 11 sec's?


    HOW IN THE WORLD IS MELO- A PROVEN KILLER, better than Crawford on his best day playing next to Jesus, who has come through time after time for HIS CAREER, BEtter than ANYone to do it even coming out of your mouth.

    WITHOUT melo..

    WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE!

    But I guess its ok for Landry Fields to contribute NOTHING! Nothing! Because he's a rookie.

    So not cool!

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    This is probably common knowledge but I read a study somewhere that said refs in ANY sport will always favor the home team no matter what because they don't want to feel the wrath of the fans.

    So obviously in the playoffs it's magnified. Hopefully we get some calls our way in games 3 and 4 and we can steal the game tomorrow.

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    Just watched the highlights again....cant seem to let this go...

    Who is the other Celtics coach who is in Melo's face on the last play as Melo gets the ball and gets ready to dribble and shoot...

    The coach is clearly on the court and closer to Melo then any Celtics player...

    Its Unbelievable....worth another watch....Hope they are fined

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    all of this talk is nonsense!

    stop blaming the refs...
    stop blaming melo because hes the reason we went on a 7 game winning streak and hit 2 game winners!..so stop it please!

    i guess i must be the only one that noticed that if d'antoni didn't use all of our timeouts! we wouldn't had to force out some stupid 3.

    it wasn't melo fault that he didnt have a timeout. It was a min left in the 4th knicks had no timeouts and celtics had 2.

    That should tell you how the coaching has a impact on the game.

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