I think you got me confused with someone else...
Do I?
Clyde & The Pearl said:What I dont understand is if this guys view is so broad, why cant he see the faults MOA brings to the table. I think thats a fair point...
Or don't I?
I think you got me confused with someone else...
Clyde & The Pearl said:What I dont understand is if this guys view is so broad, why cant he see the faults MOA brings to the table. I think thats a fair point...
Do I?
Or don't I?
Oh. I thought you meant writer as in sports writer. Not writer as in POSTER. The only reason I responded that way is because he questioned everyone's point of view that wants MOA fired. I'm not saying his point of view is wrong. Just saying he accusing others of exactly what he's doing...
Reread that:
"Not only do I agree...I've been saying basically the same thing"
No shit...the things you say are the things you believe? I never knew that was the case, get the **** out! /sarcasm
The point is, this didn't bring anything new to the table, we all know why it was posted when the exact same topic was posted literally 24 hours ago...The discussion about D'Antoni is the same that's in millions of other threads on this board, nothing new or interesting in here - as is par for the course with SAS. Which is why this could have been discussed rather than open up a new thread to rehash the same thing for the 10 thousandth time.
The point is, according to the way you speak to people:
Someone has a point of view different from yours so they must not have a rational or logical thought process behind it.
In sports especially, reasonable minds can differ. But people who look at the same set of facts differently from you (and others) are consistently attacked by you (and others) for being stupid or "dick-sucking".
I never once defended MDA in this thread, but just because the trashy Stephen A. Smith hates him doesn't mean jack shit. Stephen A. Smith also called the Zach Randolph move a "great trade" for NY...
Be real, that's all I'm saying. The reason this is posted, and the reason this is being raved about and praised is because Stephen A. agrees with your previously held notions, not because he presents a good, unique and persuasive argument.
If it was DBrown you have to blow that off, he's not a fan of D'Antoni because of his playing time, another potential malcontent like AR.Crazy⑧s;177429 said:I'd love to know which player was quoted herein. My guess is either Derek Brown or Anthony Carter.
If it was DBrown you have to blow that off, he's not a fan of D'Antoni because of his playing time, another potential malcontent like AR.
Crazy⑧s;177446 said:So why post 10+ times in a thread that bores you and you've already seen?
And in regard to my agreeing and saying the same thing, I meant I had been saying them prior to reading SAS's article. Should have been more expressive of that.
And have you mentioned D'Antoni once in this thread?
@KBlack -- Are you disagreeing with Smith's points??? If so, and maybe I missed your post, but where are the instances where he is wrong?
Did the Celtics not guard every play we have like they ran it themselves? Did we not fail to make proper adjustments? Did we not get burned by the pick and roll every time they used it. Have we not been burned by the pick and roll all season long? (The last one is a question of my own -- not Smith's).
He's not MAKING any points. I watched the games, I heard the announcers comment on the exact same things...I disagree with calling this a must-read, it's nothing the announcers didn't say during the games.
That's how Rajon Rondo made his bones. As a former shot-distributor in the ABA, NBA and Italy, it's unfathomable D'Antoni fails to grasp the intense difficulty to divide shots among Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen to their satisfaction.
Finding a substitute for Billups would be impossible. Finding someone who specializes in blocked shots, defense and rebounding (two out of three ain't bad) would be next to impossible. Who can they secure for $8 million carved between two bigs, maybe three -- Samuel Dalembert, Reggie Evans, Kenyon Martin, Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown, Jeff Foster?
That's why it pays to stick with Billups. Yes, his salary puts the Knicks over the cap, but it solidifies the second most important position. And by keeping him, it permits the Knicks to use the $5 million mid-level exception (if the new CBA doesn't eliminate it) to split between two of the aforementioned players.
That brings us to D'Antoni's shaky status. Who cares that he took the Suns twice to the Western Conference finals? Alvin Gentry took the same talent there last season. What's important is how well D'Antoni coached the Knicks in the playoffs, with or without all his talent. Pretty lousy, from what I observed.
While we live in world of diminished expectations -- the Mysterious J. can attest to that -- D'Antoni lowered the limbo bar. Save for a couple stretches when I suspect the Celtics dozed rather than the Knicks dazzled, his team came home for two games and did not compete . . . and that simply does not compute.
"Boston today is a better team than we are in every sense of the word."
This quote was brought to you by a guy who's 50-50 to get outcoached by Kurt Rambis, Roy Rubin and Red Klotz. So, we have a franchise which has lost its last ten playoff games led by a (lame-duck?) coach who has lost 10 of his last 11.
D'Antoni doesn't deserve to get more time just because the Knicks tanked his first two seasons. This is his 17th on the sidelines. It's not like he figures to get better at the job if given more years. If he can't react to adverse situations now why prolong his stay just because he's owed $6 million? It's like keeping a player who stinks just because he's making important money.
The best time to evaluate a coach is when things go wrong, not when they're winning. When you're down and out, you've got to do something, think of something that's helpful. What did D'Antoni do of consequence for the Knicks when they were hurting and undermanned?
Melo and Amar'e got swept and look what they did? They were not rendered useless. D'Antoni was rendered useless.
After Sunday's column, I got an e-mail from a prominent former NBA coach. While he agreed D'Antoni "basically had been outcoached by Doc Rivers, he's probably a little better than u had him in last article.
"Mike is essentially another Nellie (Don Nelson). Wants to coach a wide open game with no big men and then complains he never had a big man."
I don't believe for a silly second Walsh -- or Dolan, should he dictate the decision -- will do the right thing and ditch D'Antoni, especially following endorsements by Stoudemire (effusive) and Anthony (milquetoast).
(FYI: superstars are notorious for expressing one sentiment publicly and going the opposite way privately to management.)
Unlike Billups, D'Antoni would be easy to replace. Mark Jackson should've been hired initially. ABC-ESPN viewers are praying Jeff Van Gundy returns to the office. Mike Brown is unemployed. And Rick Adelman still wants to coach.
Look how the Rockets played the last two years without Yao Ming. I've yet to hear anyone knock his ability or say it wasn't fun playing for him.
Calm yourself; Thomas has no shot to resurrect his coaching or front office career with the Knicks. If he did, if Dolan was truly considering bringing him back, the False Prophet would not be trying to manipulate every influential journalist within the sound of his voice.
Like fruit?
How about those apples?!?
Not because it (the article) presents any interesting discussion points.
There are high pick-and-rolls. There's Amare Stoudemire coming from the corner, getting the ball near the elbow, with everyone and their grandmother knowing that's exactly what is going to occur. Or there's Stoudemire coming from the low block to set screens -- except everyone knows he's getting the ball and that he's not going to set a screen.
:alert::shock2::alert: As a youtube personality would say "Troof Chasers."
Where'd that article come from? I wanna link it to someone.
Crazy⑧s;177531 said:After having read and enjoyed your posts and opinions for a long while now, I'm sure you can add something of interest to this. If this isn't a discussion point regarding D'Antoni's approach, I don't know what is.
You say you watch with your father, right? I bet the 2 of you have had a discussion about the lack of creativity, or the monotony that D'antoni brings to Amar'e's role offensively.
Discuss that.
You know. I still dont know this team. There hasnt been a game where Melo and STAT have clicked. Game by game one player takes over or is the focal point. Before Melo there were definite roles. You know where everyone is supposed to be. This current team still has no offensive identity. They're just winging it.
I hate hearing about this "system". The "system" in theory works but he I dont think MDA has a hands on approach to the offense.
I mean every coach has a system. They all expect the players to run that systema certain way. But sometimes the system may stall (defense figured it out, player struggling etc.) This is where I feel MDA fails. I have never said to myself, oh what a great play by MDA. Nevr heard MDA say, we're trying to get x player going so we set some plays for him. Thats a problem.
As for defense. (much like his offense) he can coach it but there are details of defense that I feel he doesnt coach. I dont think he coaches man to man defense. Watch us play the Bulls I saw Kyle Korver play is ass off on defense. His defensive stance and technique were so sound that game. He guarded our players well.
MDA knows basketball. He has an NBA mind be not a championship one. At least not yet.
Im not a fan if firing coaches unless there are coaches ready and available to replace MDA. Thats why I may dissent on teh firing of MDA. Statbility is key. I dont wantto fire MDA now and have some interim coach only to change a year later.
My 2 cents.
I could have told you that...After watching basically all 86 games this team has played this season, I known the shtick...Amare frequently catches the ball around the top of the free throw arch, that's the go to play for Amar'e, giving him the option to put it up if his man sags or get to the hole if his man over plays him.
I could see that a week in to the season, it's nothing new...but it's a problem now. Why? Because Amar'e didn't hit his jumpers. But nobody was saying peep about this lack of creativity when Amar'e had his jumpers fall more consistently for 30 points nightly....