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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    As I said before, I'm more for a good center and a good passing PG that wouldn't cost nearly as much.

    Bothers me to see people declare Chris Paul already to be on the Knicks. Bothers me even more that people think the Hornets are gonna trade him for Billups and Fields? You kidding me?
    CP3 had the Knicks on his list when we wanted a trade. All this stems from the trade more than the toast. The more Miami wins the more it looks like the only way to beat them is to get CP3. Talent coupled with great team play always wins

    Cuz check this out this is year 1 for Miami and they are way ahead of us. They are looking for a big and they are looking for a point guard as well. You think Miami is just gonna sit still knowing everyone is gonna load up for them. What if we tell CP3 no thanks and Chauncey leaves us and signs with Miami.

    Why the hell would the Knicks not find a way to get CP3 here along with a quality big. This is why you pay the execs the big bucks. They have to find a way. Create a plan, get a 3rd or 4th or 5th team involved, work the back channels to get CP3 on the same page as you. You got Melo here so you got easy access to the CAA. We may have to take a bad contract like Okafur but hey we needed a center anyway and we all know we've seen worst.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Exactly, he was about the money, not winning.

    Suffered?!? There are many free agents this summer. None of them demanded to be traded and many of them stand to lose a far greater percentage of their salary than Melo. The superstars are still going to get paid massive amounts of money with the new CBA. It's the mid-level players that are going to get hurt the most. Yet none of them are complaining.

    Plus, Melo has made over $100 mil in his career thus far. Instead of $65 mil, he probably would have gotten $45-50 mil. So instead of $165 mil, he gets $150 mil.

    People feeling sorry for Melo are just Knick fans trying to sugar coat the reality of Melo's greed. Say what you want about Melo's skills, but the truth is he was just about getting what he wanted. Winning was obviously secondary. There is
    really no debate here.

    Lol im guessing if it was you you would of gave up millions too right ?

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    Originally Posted by Smoove&Melo
    Lol im guessing if it was you you would of gave up millions too right ?
    Yes, I would have. (It's "would've" as in "would have", not "would of")

    If I had made over $100 mil, and really wanted to win a championship, I would have sacrificed and taken $45 mil instead of $60 mil to win. Anybody that is "about winning" would have done the same.

    SMH. People make it seem like Melo would have been in the poor house had he waited. The money lost could have easilty been made up in endorsements. Which he's doing now. He got his money + he got his endorsements. He chose money over winning. There is no debate here. Keep telling yourself Melo did the right thing if it helps you. You'll see, someday.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Exactly, he was about the money, not winning.

    Suffered?!? There are many free agents this summer. None of them demanded to be traded and many of them stand to lose a far greater percentage of their salary than Melo. The superstars are still going to get paid massive amounts of money with the new CBA. It's the mid-level players that are going to get hurt the most. Yet none of them are complaining.

    Plus, Melo has made over $100 mil in his career thus far. Instead of $65 mil, he probably would have gotten $45-50 mil. So instead of $165 mil, he gets $150 mil.

    People feeling sorry for Melo are just Knick fans trying to sugar coat the reality of Melo's greed. Say what you want about Melo's skills, but the truth is he was just about getting what he wanted. Winning was obviously secondary. There is really no debate here.
    wouldnt u think he'd shut up after he got what he wanted? he continually says how sacred ny is to him

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    That goes for Melo, and pretty much every other player in the history of the NBA I guess. And don't mention the "big two and a half" in Miami, because when there's no state tax and if you're bringing home the same amount of money that you would be in most other areas because of the combo of state and federal tax...well you didn't give anything up. $13M is $13M, whether that's after state & federal, or just federal.

    So if by not opting to lose overall value on the extension for a player with 7+ years, makes Melo greedy, then you have to assume that every single player that's ever taken a max extension with Bird Rights and years of service coming into account, are greedy as well.

    Plus you also have to assume that there's no pressure from the players union for players to make as much as they possibly can to keep the market at a certain point (the MPLPA is accused of doing this year after year with big name players.)

    Sure, Melo could have said "I'll go as an FA and save them some money to use" because that's how superstar NBA players think, that's how their agents think, that's the sort of advice the union gives to the players....totally reasonable on your part to expect that....

    Plus whether Curry's $11M comes off the books, or is converted into another contract that comes off the books...I don't see what Melo did wrong. He's making $2M more than LBJ or Wade this coming season and the 2012 season, one more in 2013, and 3 more in 2014. They're all bringing home about the same amount after taxes.

    Who's he preventing us from getting by making $18M next year as opposed to $16? And if the salary cap comes down a little bit and the overall value of contracts are knocked back a bit....you do realize that it would be the same scenario, just with different figures. The top percentile of the NBA will always make more than everyone else, and they'll always be a larger chunk of your team payroll. Whether he waits to make less with a lower salary cap, or get what he feels he's worth and what the CBA says he's worth now, it's the same situation.

    I don't know where you're getting $45M from, but there's no way in hell he takes a contract worth just that. His 3 year extension is: 2012 @ $19.4M, 2013 @ $21.4M, and 2014 @ $23.5M (player option.) But people keep forgetting that the extension kills his player option in 2011 and he's making $18.5M that season....dude's extension is really worth like $86M, and if you add the $17.1 he made this season...that's $103M.....how in the WORLD do you see him taking less than half of that, or the NBA-PA EVER allowing the new CBA to cut $86M in half? They would hand KG and Delonte M16s and send them to the league offices before they allow some **** like that.

    I'm not saying you're not entitled to an opinion...but $45M as an FA? For a dude who's been in the league for 7+ years? Never, not even in the new CBA. There will be blood before anything like that happens.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Exactly, he was about the money, not winning.

    Suffered?!? There are many free agents this summer. None of them demanded to be traded and many of them stand to lose a far greater percentage of their salary than Melo. The superstars are still going to get paid massive amounts of money with the new CBA. It's the mid-level players that are going to get hurt the most. Yet none of them are complaining.

    Plus, Melo has made over $100 mil in his career thus far. Instead of $65 mil, he probably would have gotten $45-50 mil. So instead of $165 mil, he gets $150 mil.

    People feeling sorry for Melo are just Knick fans trying to sugar coat the reality of Melo's greed. Say what you want about Melo's skills, but the truth is he was just about getting what he wanted. Winning was obviously secondary. There is really no debate here.
    Amar'e was motivated by greed too coming to the Knicks & signing that $100M deal. Every player is motivated by greed my friend. Why should we hold Melo to a different standard? You wanna show me you're ALL about winning, then accept a minimum level contract. Let's see how many players on Melo's level would be willing to do that.

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