Trade our #1 (17th pick) & Fields, Douglas or both, for a top ten pick and a 2nd rounder if possible.
I'm thinking the Knicks don't plan on going far and are gearing up for another "wait til' next year" type season, underscored by keeping D'Antoni...
we mind as well think ahead and start getting players who fit better while our self imposed expectations are low.
I'm with sacrificing Fields/Douglas in hopes that our top ten pick is a difference maker.
We take a step back but in the long run should be able to acquire a more quality piece instead of hoping a 17th pick isn't just another bench warmer.
And this player hopefully a big can learn on the job for a year.
+ I'm not sure if we still have a 1st round 2012 pick, do we?
Your thoughts on trading up with Fields and or Douglas?
I'm pretty happy we even have the 17th pick this year after all that went down. Hopefully we can buy a pick or something too. Do we have a second rounder?
In a couple years the Cavaliers will be competing with the Bulls in the Eastern Conference finals.Byron Scott is the best coach in the NBA when it comes to coaching pg's and now that the Cavaliers are going to be having Kyle Irving they're going to be a force to be reckoned with in the East.If the Knicks don't fire their coach and restock their roster they are going to be finishing 4th in the standings for years to come.
Or are you referring to Douglas? Being our best defensive player?
If you are consider this:
1. We were 28th in defense, not exactly a ringing endorsement
2. Douglas and Fields are 2nd rounders, this theoretically is an upgrade
3. The Knicks themselves said Toney Douglas isn't in their plans because he isn't a good decision maker or PG
We have positions of need. That supercedes depth. Without saying as usual they know they aren't winning anything next year. This at the least provides opportunity to fill a position of need for the future.
And IF you conclude that Fields (or TD) have no trade value to any team in the top ten, then all the more reason to acquire an upgrade.
No more excuses, I don't want to hear about how Fields is just in his 2nd year he needs time, and TD can elevate his game beyond what we've seen during his brief career to the point where our positions of need are no longer. That won't happen.
Use the assets to upgrade.
And btw I hate that "weakest draft" sh!t. Its garbage. For every "weak" draft I could name several players that we misjudged. Besides to each his own. Since it subjective and speculative, who knows the value of a prospect beyond the 3rd pick?
We are going to NEED good players, on cheap contracts. We need size, and more depth going forward.
The ONLY way for this to happen is through the draft. Think about it, what center fits our bill can be afforded through free agency.
We can include Turiaf in a trade too if necessary.
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I think I'm only open to trading for Rubio if he's the real deal (doesn't even have to be a future All-Star, just a creative pass-first PG would be huge for STAT, Melo, and the rest of our team).
I'm still high on Fields. I definitely say no to trading him.