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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
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    I agree. Bieber is the best point guard available.

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
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    lol

    That was undoubtedly the gayest pile of turd I've ever watched. Even a gay turd is not as gayishly turdish as that was.

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    Originally Posted by ducktales17
    Alright, I'll say it..... Get the **** out?

    Anyone who would pick a coach over the best BG (at least top 3) in the league should be shot.

    **** man, I could coach this team with CP3, Melo, and Stat.

    No one's stopping that ****.
    Stamp this post full of cosign.

    Mongloids runnin wild here. smh yo.

    Jackson don't do **** u can quantify n be quantifiable over Coach P that b worth ANYTHING u can even dream of matching the quantifiable, certifiable, emminment excellence of Chris KING Paul comin here n what he do for us.

    DAMN fools be paranoid n deluded by their wild hatesex crush on our coach.

    Yo cosign this op too for runnin a sting job on rootin out sum retardation n core delusionals too.

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    Originally Posted by friedduck
    Stamp this post full of cosign.

    Mongloids runnin wild here. smh yo.

    Jackson don't do **** u can quantify n be quantifiable over Coach P that b worth ANYTHING u can even dream of matching the quantifiable, certifiable, emminment excellence of Chris KING Paul comin here n what he do for us.

    DAMN fools be paranoid n deluded by their wild hatesex crush on our coach.

    Yo cosign this op too for runnin a sting job on rootin out sum retardation n core delusionals too.
    Good job quoting yourself there.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    Good job quoting yourself there.
    Whachu smokin besides dick man?

    You couldn't even man up and answer op question w real talk and honesty. Pt is circus clowns be running around legit wanting some coach over cp f'ing 3 for the Knicks? Dayum....smmfh.

    And u qualifying and running around deflecting from the core points. Like a circus master. But make no mistake, u still in a circus.

    Now u wanna try n deflect some more, after bein exposed like a hack politician..but yo diction sucks, its crazy, tho u are used to smokin dick..but it don't matter to me, son. the only confusion...it's your sexual-ity.

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    I'm sure that if Mike D'antoni isn't re-signed after next season and the Knicks have 3 superstars on their roster Phil Jackson would salivate at the opportunity of coaching the Knicks.And if he happens to call Jim Dolan to ask about the position, Dolan should send him to Hades.

    We don't need a guy who had the opportunity to coach the Knicks in the past and didn't because Allan Houston and Latrell Sprewell weren't top 5 players in the league.And we don't need a guy who coached Michael Jordan into ruining our chances at a title for many years.

    Phil jackson has always been one who enjoys receiving the credit at the expense of others.You know that if he won a championship as coach of the Knicks the media would put all the focus on him and discredit the Knicks from anything.

    He is perhaps as overrated as Joe Torre and Bill Belichick.Needs to have the best superstars in the prime of their career in order to win championships.And whenever he goes on any championship drought he makes everyone believe that he's going to retire.But he knows deep in his heart that he couldn't coach a team made up of nothing but above average players deep into the playoffs.

    As much as it hurts me to say this, I would rather give Mike D'antoni a 10 year contract extension than bring in this clown to have the media put him on a pedestal every time the Knicks have some type of success.
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    Hummm...

    Relative to our current roster, if ANY coach can't compete with Billups, Stat, Fields and Melo he sucks period.

    Relative to the observation of historic defensive ineptitude by the Knicks i'd take the addition of D12, a solid big, or adefensive coach before Paul or Jackson although at the least Jackson might improve this glaring observation of defensive ineptitude.

    I'd bet if the Knicks could play defense we could compete with a far lesser achieved point guard than CP3.

    Its amazing how although no team would pass on CP3 given the opportunity, how many timesthis fantasy has been regurgetated before presenting a viable option that address the glaring need for defensive improvement, amazing.

    All I can say is some have had a bit too much Kool-Aid. You need detox.

    While you keep clamoring for a point guard (even though you have one very capable and had many throughout) without addressing the defense; although we have 2 prolific scorers; you will be enjoying your drink while constantly watching (and wishing) while top defensive teams are playing late in may and june.

    You're pathetic and obviously not a valid observer. The Knicks have been one of the, if not, the worst defensive teams for the better part of a decade AND even worse at finances illustrated by the vast amounts of money spent NOT ADDRESSING their needs.

    And all you do is keep suggesting to travel that same road.

    Even though there are countless examples of what teams do to compete and win butressed by our examples of what not to do (misappropriated funds towards defensively limited players) you want to constantly clamor for an expensived CP... I don't even know what to say

    I guess a "What's good Isaiah" is appropriate? We knew you still had Dolans ear, just couldn't believe

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    Originally Posted by Red
    Hummm...

    Relative to our current roster, if ANY coach can't compete with Billups, Stat, Fields and Melo he sucks period.

    Relative to the observation of historic defensive ineptitude by the Knicks i'd take the addition of D12, a solid big, or adefensive coach before Paul or Jackson although at the least Jackson might improve this glaring observation of defensive ineptitude.

    I'd bet if the Knicks could play defense we could compete with a far lesser achieved point guard than CP3.

    Its amazing how although no team would pass on CP3 given the opportunity, how many timesthis fantasy has been regurgetated before presenting a viable option that address the glaring need for defensive improvement, amazing.

    All I can say is some have had a bit too much Kool-Aid. You need detox.

    While you keep clamoring for a point guard (even though you have one very capable and had many throughout) without addressing the defense; although we have 2 prolific scorers; you will be enjoying your drink while constantly watching (and wishing) while top defensive teams are playing late in may and june.

    You're pathetic and obviously not a valid observer. The Knicks have been one of the, if not, the worst defensive teams for the better part of a decade AND even worse at finances illustrated by the vast amounts of money spent NOT ADDRESSING their needs.

    And all you do is keep suggesting to travel that same road.

    Even though there are countless examples of what teams do to compete and win butressed by our examples of what not to do (misappropriated funds towards defensively limited players) you want to constantly clamor for an expensived CP... I don't even know what to say

    I guess a "What's good Isaiah" is appropriate? We knew you still had Dolans ear, just couldn't believe
    Thank you for going off on another tangent and not answering the original premise.

    Seems like this post is a reply that should have gone in my "We need CP3 to get by Miami's big 3" thread - little late.

    Also CP3 is not defensively limited.. He's one of the best (if not the best) defenders at his position.

    Nice try.

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    I have to agree with Red on this one. CP3 does make us better in some areas but our GLARING need is defense & rebounding. Not to mention we get outcoached in the 4th quarter WAY too much. Before we can even think about CP3 we need to get better in the defense & rebounding department or else we're headed for another early exit from the playoffs. We're going to score & put up points because of the players we have, but we need to be a better defensive team to compete with the rest of the league; especially come playoff time.

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    Originally Posted by knicksman20
    I have to agree with Red on this one. CP3 does make us better in some areas but our GLARING need is defense & rebounding. Not to mention we get outcoached in the 4th quarter WAY too much. Before we can even think about CP3 we need to get better in the defense & rebounding department or else we're headed for another early exit from the playoffs. We're going to score & put up points because of the players we have, but we need to be a better defensive team to compete with the rest of the league; especially come playoff time.
    Smfh @ these posters talking the same BS. Reminds of when the Blazers took Sam Bowie instead of Jordan in the '84 draft.. Basketball 101: You take the best player available, via draft or FA!

    If we got CP3 he'd be one of the 3 best players we've ever had.

    Reminds me of an interview I saw w Bob Knight. He was talking about the '84 draft and said he was asked by a FO exec who's team had one of the top 5 draft positions.

    The exec asked him, "Who do like?".

    Knight says, "I like Jordan. If you get the chance, you gotta take Jordan."

    Exec says, "But we need a center..".

    Knight says,"Well draft Jordan and play him at center."

    Smell what I'm cooking here??

    Please use pure basketball logic people. Stop w the nonsense.

    IF YOU CAN GET CHRIS PAUL, YOU DO IT! Period.

    Geez..

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Smfh @ these posters talking the same BS. Reminds of when the Blazers took Sam Bowie instead of Jordan in the '84 draft.. Basketball 101: You take the best player available, via draft or FA!

    If we got CP3 he'd be one of the 3 best players we've ever had.

    Reminds me of an interview I saw w Bob Knight. He was talking about the '84 draft and said he was asked by a FO exec who's team had one of the top 5 draft positions.

    The exec asked him, "Who do like?".

    Knight says, "I like Jordan. If you get the chance, you gotta take Jordan."

    Exec says, "But we need a center..".

    Knight says,"Well draft Jordan and play him at center."

    Smell what I'm cooking here??

    Please use pure basketball logic people. Stop w the nonsense.

    IF YOU CAN GET CHRIS PAUL, YOU DO IT! Period.

    Geez..
    There's no question Chris Paul has a bigger impact than Amar'e and Carmelo, but Amar'e and Carmelo are two forwards who are inconsistent on defense. You're not asking for a combination of Paul/Howard/Amar'e or Paul/Howard/Carmelo. Those trios you could make a much better case for I think. I know Billups isn't the purest PG, but he's a proven winner and we could succeed with him, a center, and a much better coach who's good at defense.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Thank you for going off on another tangent and not answering the original premise.

    Seems like this post is a reply that should have gone in my "We need CP3 to get by Miami's big 3" thread - little late.

    Also CP3 is not defensively limited.. He's one of the best (if not the best) defenders at his position.

    Nice try.
    You're welcome... you're all welcome.

    I'd bet if the Knicks could play defense we could compete with a far lesser achieved point guard than CP3.

    Its amazing how although no team would pass on CP3 given the opportunity
    , how many timesthis fantasy has been regurgetated before presenting a viable option that address the glaring need for defensive improvement, amazing.
    Smh at the lack of comprehension.

    Originally Posted by knicksman20
    I have to agree with Red on this one. CP3 does make us better in some areas but our GLARING need is defense & rebounding. Not to mention we get outcoached in the 4th quarter WAY too much. Before we can even think about CP3 we need to get better in the defense & rebounding department or else we're headed for another early exit from the playoffs. We're going to score & put up points because of the players we have, but we need to be a better defensive team to compete with the rest of the league; especially come playoff time.
    Thank you.

    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    There's no question Chris Paul has a bigger impact than Amar'e and Carmelo, but Amar'e and Carmelo are two forwards who are inconsistent on defense. You're not asking for a combination of Paul/Howard/Amar'e or Paul/Howard/Carmelo. Those trios you could make a much better case for I think. I know Billups isn't the purest PG, but he's a proven winner and we could succeed with him, a center, and a much better coach who's good at defense.
    yup... and Ron thought is was just me.

    Nice try. A for effort. D- for another regurgitated thread.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    There's no question Chris Paul has a bigger impact than Amar'e and Carmelo, but Amar'e and Carmelo are two forwards who are inconsistent on defense. You're not asking for a combination of Paul/Howard/Amar'e or Paul/Howard/Carmelo. Those trios you could make a much better case for I think. I know Billups isn't the purest PG, but he's a proven winner and we could succeed with him, a center, and a much better coach who's good at defense.
    All we would need is a few serviceable centers to go with a three of Paul-Melo-Amare.

    Luc Longley, Bill Wennington types who hustle, rebound, can finish the odd put-back/open dunk and block a shot every now and again, or atleast just be a presence.

    That core would be good enough for us to utilize those types of bigs IMO.

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    Originally Posted by Red
    Nice try. A for effort. D- for another regurgitated thread.
    You don't recycle the same crap over and over?? How many MDA hate threads have you created? Do you have any self-awareness??

    You can't even stay on topic in other threads that have nothing to do w MDA. You fail.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    All we would need is a few serviceable centers to go with a three of Paul-Melo-Amare.

    Luc Longley, Bill Wennington types who hustle, rebound, can finish the odd put-back/open dunk and block a shot every now and again, or atleast just be a presence.

    That core would be good enough for us to utilize those types of bigs IMO.
    I'm sure we could get centers to hustle, but look at Tyson Chandler. He's very good, but he's not dominate. Chris Paul would surely get any athletic center involved on offense, and probably even any who's not athletic, but that doesn't do much for defense.

    Remember Billups' expiring. He can come back on a contract that would allow a couple of players more than a vet. minimum which would include a center.

    I DEFINITELY want to add a good passing PG. That would help with our flow on offense. We have no problem with scoring, but we could definitely use a better flow. We have enough veteran leadership on this team so Chris Paul is needed there either.

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