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    Originally Posted by DontForgetDerekHarper
    How no one

    on this forum

    wants a

    Billups
    Vince Carter
    Carmelo anthony
    Amare Stat
    Rony Turiaf

    starting line up is beyond me


    Im sorry people

    but that team is FFFFFing ridiculous.
    billups
    KT, jimmer, or brooks
    melo
    Amare
    Tyson Chandler

    is better

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    Originally Posted by Carmelo Iz Filthy
    billups
    KT, jimmer, or brooks
    melo
    Amare
    Tyson Chandler

    is better
    Dude there is no way we get Tyson Chandler. The Mavs are going to give him a nice fat paycheck this year as a thank-you for being the final cog in their championship wheel. We can't match that kind of paycheck without putting all our eggs in the Tyson Chandler basket and I don't think he alone puts us over the top.

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    There's no way we're getting Tyson Chandler. If he's gonna take a pay-cut, it's probably not gonna be that small, and only other team I can see him going to is maybe back to the Hornets.

    I think he's going back to the Mavericks. Just won a championship there and Cuban definitely wants him back.

    Even getting Dalembert might be tough. Remember, Billups' contract.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Dude there is no way we get Tyson Chandler. The Mavs are going to give him a nice fat paycheck this year as a thank-you for being the final cog in their championship wheel. We can't match that kind of paycheck without putting all our eggs in the Tyson Chandler basket and I don't think he alone puts us over the top.
    Plus we don't know how healed his foot is.

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    yeh true but we could offer him more than wat the mavs can, but he prolly will resign with them but if not I'm sure NY would be his next option. I still think we need to trade up tho and get bismack, hes would help us out in a big way, we need to move up one way or another in the draft cuz theres no way were getting bismack or KT with the 17th pick. Kt would be another good choice since hes the best shooter with jimmer in the draft, with him the floor would be spread out...... big upgrade of fields cuz KT can shoot the ball better and drive to the hoop better.

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    Originally Posted by Carmelo Iz Filthy
    yeh true but we could offer him more than wat the mavs can, but he prolly will resign with them but if not I'm sure NY would be his next option. I still think we need to trade up tho and get bismack, hes would help us out in a big way, we need to move up one way or another in the draft cuz theres no way were getting bismack or KT with the 17th pick. Kt would be another good choice since hes the best shooter with jimmer in the draft, with him the floor would be spred...... big upgrade of fields cuz KT can shoot the ball better and drive to the hoop better.
    I doubt we're even close to being able to offer more.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    I doubt we're even close to being able to offer more.
    well if we offer our 17th pick and fields or TD with some $$$ we could move up prolly 5 or 6 spots to grab one of them.

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    Hell to the no.

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    Originally Posted by DontForgetDerekHarper
    How no one

    on this forum

    wants a

    Billups
    Vince Carter
    Carmelo anthony
    Amare Stat
    Rony Turiaf

    starting line up is beyond me


    Im sorry people

    but that team is FFFFFing ridiculous.
    5 years ago I would have said yes to this lineup. Today, I say.....YES.

    Carter is a versatile player who can take defences apart. We don't really have any players who are just as dangerous outside as they are inside. Anthony is the closest we get to that.

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    There is no way I want Vince Carter on this team...


    Originally Posted by Bill Simmons
    I can prove that you can't win four straight playoff series by relying on Vince Carter

    You know why? Because he's Vince Carter! Ask the Nets' fans about him. Ask the Raptors' fans about him. They know.

    I can prove that Magic fans just muttered to themselves, "We don't need to rely on Vince to win four straight series -- we had a +12.2 point differential after the All-Star break, you GO NETS!!!."

    My counter to your muttering: Where are you going in the last three minutes of a tight game? Last spring, you cleared out for Hedo and let him create shots for himself or someone else. Worked all the way to the Finals. What about this spring? Dwight Howard takes 10 shots a game and disappears down the stretch. According to 82games.com, Howard averaged 16.0 crunch-time points per 48 minutes, such a staggeringly low number that Al Horford (17.0) and Udonis Haslem (23.9) topped him, Andrew Bogut (16.0) tied him and Joakim Noah (15.6) nearly tied him. And that's fine. He was still the third-most valuable player in the league. (At least in my opinion.) But you can't win in the playoffs without someone creating quality shots in the last four minutes.

    MAGIC NUMBERS

    Orlando's "clutch" numbers, according to 82games.com (fourth quarter or OT, less than five minutes left, neither team ahead by more than five points):
    2010 PLAYER PPG PER 48 FGA PER 48 FTM PER 48 FG% RECORD
    Vince Carter 39.8 29.6 13.4 40.0% 16-13
    Jameer Nelson 23.5 22.0 4.3 38.7% 10-12
    JJ Redick 21.7 12.2 8.7 42.9% 11-10
    Rashard Lewis 20.9 14.1 7.3 41.9% 17-12
    Dwight Howard 16.0 5.8 9.8 53.8% 20-13
    Mickael Pietrus 14.1 10.3 2.6 37.5% 6-6
    Matt Barnes 10.0 6.3 2.5 40.0% 10-8
    2009 PLAYER PPG PER 48 FGA PER 48 FTM PER 48 FG% RECORD
    Jameer Nelson 34.7 22.4 7.2 51.6% 12-7
    Rashard Lewis 28.0 15.0 9.3 51.1% 26-13
    Hedo Turkoglu 26.6 20.1 10.8 35.7% 25-12
    Dwight Howard 19.7 6.3 11.9 61.1% 22-14

    So where's it coming from? Jameer Nelson has slipped since his shoulder injury last season. Lewis' numbers have fallen off without Turkoglu. That leaves Vince. (See the sidebar to the right.) Is anyone buying this? What happens the first time someone gives him a hard playoff foul on a drive? What happens if he tweaks his ankle and has to play through pain? What happens if he has menstrual cramps? (Jokes! I'm joking. Stop it. Settle down.) What happens (hypothetically) in a Game 6 in Charlotte or Atlanta, with Orlando trailing three games to two and facing a giant upset, tie game, two minutes to play, win or go home? Who gets the ball? Who takes over? Who is everyone looking at and saying, "Save us?" That's right … Vince Carter. The most disappointing superstar of his generation.

    You might be an optimist. You might believe in redemption. You might believe that, after A-Rod, Manning, Duke and Kobe, the thought of Vince Carter being the top creator on an NBA champ isn't far-fetched.

    I am a pessimist. At least when Vince is involved. Even though he's playing for his most talented team ever, I can prove he will destroy them in the end. Why? Because he's Vince Carter. Did you miss the past 12 years or something? Why do you think Orlando got him for 20 cents on the dollar? Why do you think Toronto fans still jeer him lustily even though he left six years ago? Why do you think Kidd pushed for a trade to Dallas? Orlando fans, remember we had this conversation when there's a big playoff game in a few weeks and Vince is rolling around on the floor like he's been shot as you're screaming, "Get up! GET UP, VINCE! HE BARELY FOULED YOU! IT'S GAME 7! GET THE EFF UP!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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    Lol @ Vince Carter.


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    After watching those VC videos, send me Vince Carter NOW.

    God I love highlight videos.

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    God no, Orlando brought him in to fortify that roster and win them a ring with Lewis and Dwight, didn't work out for them why would it work for us. If he's willing to come to NY for the min then there's not much risk but there are 29 other teams that would kill for VC at the min.

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    VC is the type of player that gives a little and takes a little (pause lol). Yes he can score, but he's turnover prone and his defense stinks. He's not a player you want starting for your team at this point in his career because he just isn't the dominant scorer that he was.. Not even close. When he was legit Air Canada you could justify it. Now he just Fair Canada, so no..

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    vince carter is washed

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