This leads me to believe Douglas is getting dealt for a Sessions or something.
You can't have 3 guards like Douglas, Shumpert and Fields in your rotation. You need one PG.
This kid will also rebound. He'll also create his own shot. Kick out to him and he'll drive it.
If he can learn to shoot and develop insticts (work on seeing the floor and his passing)... and if he gets the pick and roll game down... he'll be a steal.
Stopping Wade? I wouldn't say he is our modern day Johnny Neuman or Gerald Wilkens just yet.
This guy is getting groomed for the point guard position, and can share the backcourt with Toney D.... He's a very underrated passer and has a 6'9" wingspan !!! We are getting one of the tallest and most athletic players at that position period.
Also, you may forget that the knicks have one of the best shooting coaches in Phil Weber. DOnnie seemed to believe that this kid had great mechanics, just poor shot selection, meaning he WILL become a much better shooter than he currently is.
I think this is a great pick, and I like the logic behind it -- Knicks lost their Center of choice, and went with THEIR best available who could come in and make an impact. I thought they would have considered Donatas Motiejunas a little more closely, but they must have felt Shumpert would have been gone.
Happy and excited over here. NOW ON TO FREE AGENCY!!
Can't help it...
I do agree... Faried and Singleton make little sense, b/c we would have a small front court. BUT, this notion only floats IF we go out and sign a LEGIT starting C come free agency.
This kid has multiple abilities which fits in with Amare and Stat. He can handle the ball, pass, score, great leaping ability, rebound and defend. We can use him a the 1 or 2 and not lose any size. He's also very creative around the rim.
Some people shouldn't be so fast to bash the kid just because "your guy" wasn't picked. This kid is talented and does fill a need. At least wait a 1/4 into the season and see what we actually got.
FYI - I also read that he shut Jimmer down in one on one.
NBA Draft Results: Iman Shumpert Picked No. 17 By New York Knicks
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No player's draft stock gained more from the 2011 NBA Combine than [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]'s. As [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] shows, Shumpert's standing plummeted as the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] season slumped further into disarray until he was barely a second-rounder, with his NBA declaration sending him back near the first round.
But it wasn't until [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] at the late-May Combine that Shumpert really cracked the first round, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] of his pro prospects. As of Thursday evening right before the Draft, he'd risen as high as No. 17 to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. And now here he is, being picked No. 17 by the New York Knicks, a terrible defensive team. Nice call, Draft Express.
Shumpert is a fantastic defender, one of the best in the nation, and clearly a fantastic athlete. The biggest knock against him? Effort. The Knicks will need to make sure they get 100 percent out of him -- then again, factor in the Paul Hewitt effect however you'd like.
Though he played point guard in Atlanta, he often seemed more fit to play combo guard -- especially with very few teammates worth passing to in 2011. As a designated defensive stopper off the bench, I can see him contributing to New York's rotation right away, especially considering the pieces like [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] he'll have to work with on the other side of the ball. Spike Lee didn't sound all that pumped, but likes defense.
Analyzing the NBA Combine Athletic Testing Results by: Matt Kamalsky - Director of Operations May 26, 2011
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] stole the show at the combine, looking like clearly the most physically gifted player in this entire draft class. To start things off, his 36.5' standing vertical leap was [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] since [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] posted the top mark in our entire historical database (39.5') back in 2007.
FYI - I'm not saying this kid is a sure thing, BUT he's very talented and even though I would have been just as satisfied with a few other players I'm cool with the pick because he does fill a need. You can almost never go wrong with two-way players.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Shump will be a regular rotation player who'll make solid contributions next season.
I don't think you are, We didn't need another premier scorer, we don't need anymore confusion on who will shoot the rock...Stat and Mello can take care of that. What we need is a person who can run, pass and defend. A decent role player with a hugh upside. All other options (for our needs) were exhausted...most likely they will be met in trades and FA.
Plus Billups can coach him up...more than D'Ant will.
That's what makes this pick a head scratcher to me. Shumpert is not a D'antoni player. SSOL is based on spacing and shooting.
I'm sorry... Having a few solid workouts and knocking down shots in drills does not negate 3 years of game film. Dude might have the form but it doesn't translate on the court.
Maybe a lot of that has to do with poor shot selection (coach will love that) but then that opens up another can of worms.
D'antoni has no defensive plan either, so utlitizing this kid's strength (help defense) wont matter much.
I feel coach will help him with his jump shot this year, but this pick probably means D'antoni has to adjust his offense to Carmelo-Amar'e or he is a goner.
REMEMBER, the Raiders always get in trouble b/c they place too much stock in combine numbers. AGAIN, I was high on this guy before the draft... Not like we went crazy passing on Singelton, Faried, Donatas and Brooks...
But I worry about risers. game film is what I put most emphasis on. "Weak" ACC year and Ga Tech was BAD.
Still, he fills a position of need and (like Fields) does a lot of things well. Has the body and talent, and wants to play defense and rebound.
Still, his poor decision-making (we hope that's b/c Ga Tech lacked talent) and limited range (we hope he shoots 1000 jumpers a day) will mean PINE TIME, b/c mike D. don't like kids who can't knock down the 3.
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What ever happened to us signing a defensive assistant?
There were some other names out there, but I forgot. Frank is the top choice, AFAIK.