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    44% of Americans believe evolution is false and the earth/universe is only 10,000 years old. We are ranked 2nd from the bottom (just above Turkey at 51%) in the western world. Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, France, Britian and Norway rank at the top at only 10%.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay



    44% of Americans believe evolution is false and the earth/universe is only 10,000 years old. We are ranked 2nd from the bottom (just above Turkey at 51%) in the western world. Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, France, Britian and Norway rank at the top at only 10%.
    Wow. Some very silly ladies amongst that lot. 10/10 for boobs though.

    44%!? Really? I find that hard to register. I've seen a lot of pretty aggressive campaigning against science/evolution/free thinking on YouTube in the land of the free. I've seen some videos of pretty heavy childhood indoctrination/ flat out brain washing as well.

    It's pretty amazing to hear the mantras these people, creationists in particular, fool themselves with. So many of them seem to be human versions of parrots, who repeat things perfectly well, but have no literal understanding of what they're saying.

    I watched a video of a dude called Ted Haggard, I assume you know of the guy, and it's amazing how immoral some of those that consider themselves destined to ascend really are. A lot of this preaching is an obvious excuse for the usurping of others' money, by targeting those who have an inability to think for themselves.

    I've only really started to gain any real interest in this feud of Science VS Religion very recently. Are there any forums or something of the like that you are part of that you'd recommend for my reading?

    Thanks.

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    I like this one more:


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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay



    44% of Americans believe evolution is false and the earth/universe is only 10,000 years old. We are ranked 2nd from the bottom (just above Turkey at 51%) in the western world. Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, France, Britian and Norway rank at the top at only 10%.
    I think I can actually feel my brain cells dying as I watch this video. Yup, there goes another one...

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    It shouldn't. Nor should religion.

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    I don't have a problem with both evolution and creationism being taught as possible theories in public schools without the schools taking sides and letting the students decide.

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    I've never thought of evolution as of a theory that shouldn't be taught at schools. I've been taught evolution at public school. We (Europeans) mostly do not consider it as something to believe or not, but more as a scientific fact that isn't meant to form an opposite theory to any religious teaching.

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    I've never thought of evolution as of a theory that shouldn't be taught at schools. I've been taught evolution at public school. We (Europeans) mostly do not consider it as something to believe or not, but more as a scientific fact that isn't meant to form an opposite theory to any religious teaching.
    and here lies the problem. the insistence that evolution is scientific. It isn't scientific at all. there is no proof for evolution. Its just a theory, Like Creationism. I would go one further to say that Evolution is a religion to those who believe it actually...

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    Originally Posted by mrveggieman
    I don't have a problem with both evolution and creationism being taught as possible theories in public schools without the schools taking sides and letting the students decide.
    Yea and throw in telekinesis, not enough kids understand the dangers of moving **** with your mind.

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    Whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, you should atleast see what is going on in schools these days. Mentioning Creationism has instant ridicule and you be laughed at.

    Mentioning intelligent design has led to college professors getting fired everywhere.

    Freedom of speech is dead, especially when it comes to this topic.

    I am not a scientist but I can easily see something wrong here in schools. We are taught in schools that all of this information is 100% true as little children, yet we call ourselves a "Christian nation." We are taught this stuff as children....this is basically indoctrination and people that have religious views against this put their kids through schools that believe in this as 100% fact. No wonder why kids rebel so much and family values are low. Kids are getting pulled by two sides constantly and they are forced to succumb to both or else they can't get a decent job. Yet the matter of creationism is only present in Sunday School, or a Christian College of some sort, however EVERY other university labels evolution as 100% fact and won't even listen to creationism or intelligent design.

    You can have your view, but when you force it on people, especially little kids, then how are you any different from religions that completely indoctrinate people? You should have a choice to accept something or not.


    Our nations is just built on lies and has no transparency. We should at least give students the choice to choose without ridicule and banishment. It is ridiculous.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, you should atleast see what is going on in schools these days. Mentioning Creationism has instant ridicule and you be laughed at.

    Mentioning intelligent design has led to college professors getting fired everywhere.

    Freedom of speech is dead, especially when it comes to this topic.

    I am not a scientist but I can easily see something wrong here in schools. We are taught in schools that all of this information is 100% true as little children, yet we call ourselves a "Christian nation." We are taught this stuff as children....this is basically indoctrination and people that have religious views against this put their kids through schools that believe in this as 100% fact. No wonder why kids rebel so much and family values are low. Kids are getting pulled by two sides constantly and they are forced to succumb to both or else they can't get a decent job. Yet the matter of creationism is only present in Sunday School, or a Christian College of some sort, however EVERY other university labels evolution as 100% fact and won't even listen to creationism or intelligent design.

    You can have your view, but when you force it on people, especially little kids, then how are you any different from religions that completely indoctrinate people? You should have a choice to accept something or not.


    Our nations is just built on lies and has no transparency. We should at least give students the choice to choose without ridicule and banishment. It is ridiculous.
    Seriously mate, well put, and well said - I agree with you 1000000 % !!!!

    Its not an education, its indoctrination. I am all for evolution to be taught as a "Theory" in school - Believe me.... Its when they teach Evolution as 100 % fact and they mock and ridicule Creationism, that's what pisses me off majorly. I say teach both and let the individual decide.... Stop indoctrinating people ....

    I want to talk about 1 point you made where you said that "We are taught this stuff as children....this is basically indoctrination and people that have religious views against this put their kids through schools that believe in this as 100% fact. No wonder why kids rebel so much and family values are low
    There is serious evidence to suggest that since it has become compulsory to teach Evolution in school books as fact in the USA since the 1960's, there has been a dramatic increase in Crime, Sexual Immorality, Murder, Abortion, and the list goes on and on. I seriously believe that Teaching Evolution to children and ignoring God's word has had a direct correlation as to why these things have increased and to why family values and morals have dropped off dramatically.

    I live in Australia and its getting worse and worse here also. All this stuff points to a "One World Order" if you ask me....
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    @wian: which Christian denomination do you represent?

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    @wian: which Christian denomination do you represent?
    I am just a Bible believing Christian to be honest. I believe in Christ as my Lord and Saviour and i want to live like he would, so its as simple as that..

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