What can you not see this??
Felton wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd take him and Chandler.
Again, you would take CP3 the superstar if it weren't for the fact that you already have Carmelo and Amar'e on this team.
EVERY team needs good roleplayers. Yes, Scottie and Michael were ridiculous but guys like Toni Kukoc and Dennis Rodman were just as critical in those title runs.
I shouldn't have to explain this. It's a luxury you don't pass on.
Jordan and Pippen were good enough to buck most historical winning traits of Championship teams. They had some good role guys like Rodman and Kukoc who they got at discount because they were dynasty type team. We could get a guy or two like that too imo. We're not as good w just Amare and Melo tho. I think for this reason you go and get that third high caliber player. Now you can go the Dallas route by stacking roll guys and hoping the team gels around our two stars. But does anyone look at Dallas as team that will win again next yr? Are they a multi-title type of team? I don't see it. I think the East is going to win the next few titles and I want our team to be included in that kind of contention. W a big 3 including Paul we could win multiple chips imo.
1. What CHAMPIONSHIP team had 3 players under MAX contracts?
2. What championship team won without the contribution of their front court?
3. What CHAMPIONSHIP team (in recent memory) has won without a player they drafted making a major contribution (including draft day trades- Kobe)?
4. Estimate for us by wins and losses the difference between fielding the SAME team with CP3 vs Ray Felton.
What you can't comprehend is your approach is flawed and its revealed in your argument> getting "the best" is what's best.
When building from scratch- yep everyone agrees.
When ALREADY having 2 MAX players- nope "the best" isn't what's necessarily what's best for a team
The situation, as I've explained, becomes the best complimentary AFFORDABLE players should be signed. Simply because the players added after acquiring 2 max's MUST compliment and accentuate our previous investment(s).
Cp3 does exactly THE OPPOSITE IF he costs max $. HE prevents us from finising what we started 3 years ago. That's counter intuitive.
I understand what you don't. Your idea is one used to sell tickets.
My position is one that increases likely hood of championship success and is fiscally responsible enough to consider forward flexibility.
Again its simple... no team feels they need to add another MAX contract after they already (recently) added 2- if so its considered back tracking from a mistake.
Looking forward to your answers.
i cant seem to fathom how people are not getting you!
the freakin heat came 2 wins within winning a championship and guaranteed will be favored to win it all whenever next season starts.
dont gimme that bs about how dallas won and all that, dallas won after like 10 tries. Aside from D12, no only is CP3 the best player we can get, but his skillset will have the GREATEST IMPACT!
What you fail to realize is that the issue of CP3 and people on this board not wanting him ultimately boils down to their hatred of MDA. Subconsciously or consciously they want MDA to fail to vindicate their stance therefore do not want to see us acquire players that possibly could compliment his system. Red and others would have no problem obtaining D12 over CP3 because that fits their prejudice and desire for size so don't be fooled by this 3 Max argument. It's about them wanting THEIR idea of 3 max players.
This hatred leads to absurd stances that would have us forgo a legit superstar for draft picks!!
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But all of that being said...I'll take CP3, Dwight, or Deron...you don't pass up on that kind of talent, ever. Doesn't matter who the coach is, when you have three complimentary starters from the last All-Star game (assuming we get CP3 or Dwight, Deron ain't half bad tho.)
Plus those three guys all fill positions of need anyway, unless the likes of Turiaf and Billups will be our starting 1s and 5s going forward.
I've admitted this before, aesthetically I rather not get three maxes. That's not why I'm saying I want other players instead of a max PG. So you can't hold that against me. Whatever I say is my opinion.
And I must say this again, DO I think a max PG would mean no championship for us? No. I'm not as confident in it as I would be rounding out the team.