Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32

Thread: Believing the Hype: Past Knicks who YOU overatted

  1. #1
    Quiet Storm New New York's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,431
    Rep Power
    15

    Default Believing the Hype: Past Knicks who YOU overatted

    OK, I gotta admit I am really excited about Iman Shumpert just like I was about Wilson Chandler and like I was about David Lee entering their rookie years.....and sadly like I was about Mardy Collins entering his second year and like I was about Anthony Randolph becoming a Knick

    I mean Mardy Collins put up some decent to end his rookie season and I prematurely dubbed him the next (gulp) Derrick Harper....Blasphemy!


    Anthony Randolph was going to be the next Marcus Camby....ouch!

    Renaldo Balkman the next Rodman (I was really sipping the Isiah Kool Aid it would appear)

    Channing Frye would be an All NBA Player one day, I thought after a strong rookie outing.



    Mutumbo,Kurt Thomas and Keith Van Horn would be the best front court in The East


    I gotta say I never believed in Michael Sweetney tho! and crowd out loud (literally) when I read the headline "Knicks and James have Bond" which was a play on James Bond referring to us signing Jerome James



    Lastly I thought Jared Jefferies was going to be this versitile lockdown defender who would make the All Defensive first team while brining a element of continuity to our starting 5 that mostly consisted of scorers!

    Anyways lets hope Shumpert turns out more David Lee and Wilson than Frye, Collins or Balkman!


    Ok so I know I wasnt the only one who believed the hype, what are some of yours?

  2. #2
    Veteran petescud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,815
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    I thought Doc Rivers was over rated as a Knick...

  3. #3
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    2,792
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    I overrated Channing Frye and Nate Robinson.

    I thought Nate would gain PG skills and Channing Frye would build toughness. How wrong I was.

  4. #4
    Veteran STAT1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    1,361
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    I thought Jordan Hill would turn out to be a nice player for us when we drafted him.

    Also thought Renaldo Balkman would be a good sleeper pick & Frank Williams was our PG of the future.

  5. #5
    Superstar MSGhobo247's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    MSG
    Posts
    794
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Always thought Nate would become so much more. He had the tools but just never grew up.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    163
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Gallinari, next Larry Bird? come on

    Charles Smith, player with the big nose who came up small on the court.

  7. #7
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,036
    Rep Power
    19

    Angry An ANGRY ole Knicks-Fan

    If the Knicks dont do something about their two-decades of having
    a "poor-poor" coaching-staff the developement of college-players
    into Pro-NBA players will stay the same.

    Headcoach JVG was a decent strategic defensive-coach that related
    well with his players. His biggest negative as a headcoach was developing
    college level players into NBA level players.
    New Yorkers who watched the outstanding performance of "Rod Strictland"
    years before Strictland entered the NBA are still "wondering" how coach
    JVG never had the time to give a high-profile PG-Strictland any playingtime
    to build a coaches-confidence in his PG player.
    Not one of the Knicks drafted players recieved any playingtime in their
    rookie season under headcoach JVG.

    All the Knicks drafted players mentioned above by the "POSTER" of this
    thread showed great potential in college and in their rookie NBA season.
    The Knicks coaching-staff after headcoach Pat Riley (1990) seemed to
    always have problems getting a decent team-chemistry out of
    six-Knicks-players. The Knicks has been lacking chemistry for over a decade.
    Headcoach JVG recieved great jellin-chemistry from "only" three of his
    players (Ewing/ Oakley/ and Starks) to have successful seasons.

    In the NBA, practically the majority of young super-stars that enter
    the NBA have their teams coaching-staff change within the first 3 years
    of their rookie contract to advance their level of skills in the NBA.
    This is a change that started in 1979 when Earvin Magic Johnson and
    Larry Bird entered the NBA...... Chairman James Dolan dissaproved of
    this action then, and still dissaprove of it now.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    182
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    Am I reading the above post correctly??

    Vandy Gundy didn't coach Rod Strickland in NY.

  9. #9
    Superstar nuckles2k2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,172
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    If the Knicks dont do something about their two-decades of having
    a "poor-poor" coaching-staff the developement of college-players
    into Pro-NBA players will stay the same.

    Headcoach JVG was a decent strategic defensive-coach that related
    well with his players. His biggest negative as a headcoach was developing
    college level players into NBA level players.
    New Yorkers who watched the outstanding performance of "Rod Strictland"
    years before Strictland entered the NBA are still "wondering" how coach
    JVG never had the time to give a high-profile PG-Strictland any playingtime
    to build a coaches-confidence in his PG player.
    Not one of the Knicks drafted players recieved any playingtime in their
    rookie season under headcoach JVG.

    All the Knicks drafted players mentioned above by the "POSTER" of this
    thread showed great potential in college and in their rookie NBA season.
    The Knicks coaching-staff after headcoach Pat Riley (1990) seemed to
    always have problems getting a decent team-chemistry out of
    six-Knicks-players. The Knicks has been lacking chemistry for over a decade.
    Headcoach JVG recieved great jellin-chemistry from "only" three of his
    players (Ewing/ Oakley/ and Starks) to have successful seasons.

    In the NBA, practically the majority of young super-stars that enter
    the NBA have their teams coaching-staff change within the first 3 years
    of their rookie contract to advance their level of skills in the NBA.
    This is a change that started in 1979 when Earvin Magic Johnson and
    Larry Bird entered the NBA...... Chairman James Dolan dissaproved of
    this action then, and still dissaprove of it now.

  10. #10
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,036
    Rep Power
    19

    Angry

    Originally Posted by feetoe
    Gallinari, next Larry Bird? come on

    Charles Smith, player with the big nose who came up small on the court.

    Gallo's developement into the NBA has been done backwards by the
    Knicks coaching-staff.....
    Charles Smith outstanding performance on the LA Clippers was the
    reason why the Knicks offered Smith more $$$ than the Clippers would
    when he became a FA.

    Important News
    President/Headcoach Pat Riley quit on the Knicks after taking the
    Knicks to the FINALS.....WHY?
    Was it because the Knicks only allowed Pat Riley to hire only one coach
    (JVG) to the poor staff? or was it b/c the Knicks did not have a Bigman
    or Guard camp? or was it G.M. Checkett getting players he wanted rather
    than what the headcoach needed? or was it ........
    The Knicks Organization has not change its foolish nature since 1990.

  11. #11
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,036
    Rep Power
    19

    Default

    Originally Posted by knickscity
    Am I reading the above post correctly??

    Vandy Gundy didn't coach Rod Strickland in NY.

    Who was the Knicks headcoach of rookie PG-Ward and then rookie Rod Strictland?

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    182
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Who was the Knicks headcoach of rookie PG-Ward and then rookie Rod Strictland?
    I give you a hint....it wasn't Jeff Van Gundy.

    And why you saying "and then"?

    Ward was drafted years after Strickland

  13. #13
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,036
    Rep Power
    19

    Default

    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Why are all the NUCKLE-HEADS joining Knicks online lately????
    I have to get back to my 9/5 to pay my bills.....I thought some
    imput on our decade of not hiring any coaches for our staff like
    the Mavs, Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs did would be important.
    My BAD!

  14. #14
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,036
    Rep Power
    19

    Default

    Originally Posted by knickscity
    I give you a hint....it wasn't Jeff Van Gundy.

    And why you saying "and then"?

    Ward was drafted years after Strickland

    Its best that u pick?

    Pat Riley
    Don Nelson
    JVG
    Chaney

  15. #15
    Veteran p0nder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    1,323
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    dude i don't know what the heck kiya is talking about right now. Am I high? (yes) but it's like 11:11 AM on thursday afternoon here and Kiya is tripping balls.

    I will actually say this about Gallo's development as a knick. His rookie/sophmore season he was a bitch. You can chalk it up to his back issues, but the guy did not attack the basket, did not play good post defense and camped the 3pt line.

    In his final stint as a Knick last season he changed. He developed his handles and his dribble got more controlled and closer to the ground, he shot better off the dribble, he drew fouls, attacked the rim, finished with authority.

    I don't know if that is because he wanted to show his value to the knicks and in an attempt to stay played his ass off, but he got better while he was a knick. Development wise, who do we attribute that to?


    Players I have overrated as knicks: Pretty much all of them. I still feel that ewing was a better center then shaq, david robinson, hakeem, etc. But the proof (rings) never materialized. Sprewell i also overrated as a player. I felt he could hang with the kobe's and the Ai's but in reality he was a fast break scorer and a pretty decent defender, but not an alll-NBA, MVP candidate.

    Starbury. Man, the guy could ball and i thought he'd take us out of the basement but I was very, very wrong.

Similar Threads

  1. These Knicks May not be together Much Longer
    By Oakman88 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Jan 28, 2011, 09:03
  2. Knicks Report Card and Some Needed Perspective
    By TR1LL10N in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: Dec 08, 2010, 15:58
  3. I feel bad for Marbury, having to carry the Celtics
    By MSGKnickz33 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 169
    Last Post: Nov 10, 2010, 17:15
  4. ESPN's take on NY
    By Crazy⑧s in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Oct 13, 2009, 09:44
  5. Lampe signs with NY Knicks
    By KnickFan2080 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: Jan 27, 2008, 23:17

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •