Alan Hahn Advocating Ewing As New Defensive Assistant.

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee


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alanhahn Alan Hahn
And, as we said in today's Fix, no matter whom D'Antoni hires, NO ONE will cast larger shadow over him than Phil Jackson for the next year.
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alanhahn Alan Hahn
Full disclosure: it will take some effort on Ewing's part, too, to mend the fence. He's not nearly as amenable as, say, Mark Messier.
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alanhahn Alan Hahn
Oh and let's add that Ewing would have a 7-foot pupil from Jamaica named Jerome Jordan to tutor.
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alanhahn Alan Hahn
Consider the candidates left at this point. Explain to me how Ewing, a defensive talent in his prime, doesn't have the resume?
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alanhahn Alan Hahn
It's getting tiresome to hear Patrick Ewing talk about wanting to come back here to coach, etc. D'Antoni should hire him as D assistant. #fb


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One of the best defensive centres in an era of elite bigs, captain of the Bad Boys from NY, all time leader in blocks in a finals series.

Is it a resume that takes precedence over someone tried and true that's made a career out of defence?
 
I know this might sound messed up but I would rather have Mike Woodson as our defensive assistant, and I thought Pat doesn't want to be an assistant anymore and wants to become a HC?
 

p0nder

Starter
I think Defensive assistant would be a good way for Ewing to get the exposure and experience to make the jump to Head Coach. Right now he's a "role coach" and needs to take at least another step before jumping to a head coaching position.

Would love to see him as the DC.
 

toNYknicks

Benchwarmer
If anyone should give Pat a shot it should be us! wouldnt be upset if he got the job over woodson... but having phil in 2012 would be amazing!!!
 

pat

Starter
Crazy⑧s;185412 said:

One of the best defensive centres in an era of elite bigs, captain of the Bad Boys from NY, all time leader in blocks in a finals series.


As much as I liked him as a player, he never was defensive-minded. He had Oakley's back which made him look good on d
 

iJoe

Rotation player
You need a defensive coach that knows the ins and outs of the opposing teams' offense and how to counter that.

Its a LOT of x's and o's and the need to draw up defensive schemes as well as coordinate how to best utilize each players' abilty and mesh them into the team defense.

Ewing is in no way qualified for this. The beat them up defense of the past no longer works. You'd be called for flagrant fouls all day. You need a guy who is technically skilled. Ewing can get away as maybe a big man coach, but he was never known for being the smart hard worker.

Do you honestly think Ewing matches up anywhere even close to Thibodeau or Lawrence Frank? Those guys are workaholics that spend all day watching tape and carry huge notebooks.
 
I think he deserves a shot at the DC job. He'll help out with our bigs and teach them a few pointers on playing effectivly around the paint. When he was a player I remember seeing him smacking peoples shots all over the place. He not only knew how to command the paint, he knew how to pick up charges, and grab boards. However, when his knees gave out on him he was clearly done. There were times when he couldn't even run the floor but his heart somehow got him thru it...which is another attribute I think he has that will easily rub off on the players.

I'm just not sure if D'Ant would want him. He might not because of the fans love for him(Ewing)...he might not want to share the spot light and would rather not give props to a player with little coaching experince...especially if Ewing happens to improve the defense, rebounding, and heart of the team. A coach in the last year of his contract will find many issues with this...after all the Knicks are on the rise and no coach dosen't want to look like he couldn't handle this level of talent. Plus he would probably have to give up his brothers spot on the staff. What does his brother do anyway?

We definately need help in the coaching department. I don't know if Ewing is the answer, I just think his return presence will be of use to us. I would love to see him get his ring with the NY Knicks...even if he's not on the floor ballin.
 

nyk_nyk

All Star
As much as I liked him as a player, he never was defensive-minded. He had Oakley's back which made him look good on d

Lolololololol!! How old are you? :teeth:

I'm surprised no one else checked you for that horrible comment.
 
Exactly. Not only would he be our DC but he would also add value as a quality big man coach too.
I have much love for Pat and everything he has done with the Knicks but I just don't see how Pat would be a good DC, have you watched Orlando this season? Their defense WAS Dwight Howard. And tbh I find Pat's big man coaching to be a little overrated. D12 should be the best player in the NBA right now imo. D12 was already a defensive monster before Pat got to Orlando so lets not act like Pat turned D12 into some defensive specialist. & in 4 years of Pat being there, D12 has shown NO improvement on his FT shooting and it took Pat like 4 years to teach D12 to make a shot from like 3 feet away.
 

knickscity

Benchwarmer
I loved Ewing as a Knicks as well, and I would like to see if he could coach, but I don't want him to be "practicing" with us.

Outside of Howard, Orlando is doo-doo on defense, and actually even with the specialty that Ewing was hired there for, Howard hasn't developed at all under Ewing on offense either.
 

Marek

Benchwarmer
The DC would have to be a very X's and O's oriented coach.

I have never seen or heard anything about Ewing being that type of coach. He works with players on their skills and points out certain things on the floor. But that's not what the DC does.
 

toNYknicks

Benchwarmer
Woodson is obviously the better choice and i agree whoever is the DC is going to have to teach philosophy more than skills but i also think you don't see Ewing in that light because frankly he was never given a chance not because he isn't capable. And Dwight has stepped his game up to become one of the most elite players in the NBA, trust me hes doing something right !!! Ewing as a big man coach would definitely improve players like harrelson and jordan but i dont think he wants to sign up for that
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
As much as I liked him as a player, he never was defensive-minded. He had Oakley's back which made him look good on d

:eek:hboy:

2 all defensive second team appearances - including one in which he surpassed Oakley, Olajuwon and others in votes {'89 if I remember correctly}, are making you look rather silly at the moment.

Never defensive minded?. I fart in your general direction.
 

SSj4Wingzero

All Star
Woodson would be better if he would take the job.

Being a DC is about being more than a good defensive player much like being a good HC is about being more than a good two-way player, otherwise we'd still have Isiah here coaching the team because of his HOF resume.

I'm not saying that Ewing doesn't have the ability to do this but why would you take a guy new to the coaching game over a guy like Woodson who has proven himself to be a better coach than D'Antoni?
 
I grew up watching Patrick Ewing play and enjoyed the tuff nose D that he played , but in no way do I think he's qualified to be a DC for us.... Unless he can bring D.Howard with him. Bring him back for public relations when Allen Houston makes the move to full time GM.
 

nyk_nyk

All Star
I have much love for Pat and everything he has done with the Knicks but I just don't see how Pat would be a good DC, have you watched Orlando this season? Their defense WAS Dwight Howard. And tbh I find Pat's big man coaching to be a little overrated. D12 should be the best player in the NBA right now imo. D12 was already a defensive monster before Pat got to Orlando so lets not act like Pat turned D12 into some defensive specialist. & in 4 years of Pat being there, D12 has shown NO improvement on his FT shooting and it took Pat like 4 years to teach D12 to make a shot from like 3 feet away.

Your post is all over the place. First of all, Ewing was not a defensive coach in ORL, he was just one of the assistant coaches. Secondly, who is overrating Ewing as a big man coach?? How is a hall of fame center not worthy of getting credit as a mentor to a young center. I don't know if you've noticed, but Howard's post game has gotten better every year under Ewing. Also, his work with D12 was mostly offensive and everyone knows D12 already possesses natural defensive skills.

So I guess you believe that Curry or any other young center we bring in wouldn't benefit from working with our former captain who played the game with great intensity. :eek:hboy:

"it took Pat like 4 years to teach D12 to make a shot from like 3 feet away" - Sorry but this comment is just plain dumb.
 

nyk_nyk

All Star
I grew up watching Patrick Ewing play and enjoyed the tuff nose D that he played , but in no way do I think he's qualified to be a DC for us.... Unless he can bring D.Howard with him. Bring him back for public relations when Allen Houston makes the move to full time GM.

Wow, you gave a reason why he qualifies and then said he wouldn't qualify.
:teeth:

An effective defensive coach understands defense and has to at least have a defensive mentality. I remember Ewing screaming at his teammates in huddles to clamp down on defense and they listened.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Why dont the Knicks just FIRE the BUM Dantoni-brothers.....
then hire Patrick Ewing & Woodson as assistant coaches to
interim headcoach Herb Williams???
 
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