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    Originally Posted by Knicks#7
    They are gonna have to co exist and all of the above. I agree. I'm holding out hope that between them and (gulp) the coaching staff, this will happen. I also agree that Kenyon Martin may make it to the Finals before Melo, but as a role player for an already established team who probably could get there if you replaced Martin with Kurt Thomas, Baby Davis, or Reggie Evans. I just want to see a productive season with a focus on Defense and the right role players and let's see what we can do

    Knicks#7.....we all are hoping to see a great co-existence between
    Stat & Melo throughout the next 5 seasons....but the Knicks last two
    postseason games (113-96 & 101-89) is hard to erase/delete from ones
    vision.
    The Knicks two superstar top-10 players in the NBA (Stat & Melo) went
    their seperate way after both played 43 minutes on April 24th in the
    final game of the season. The two havnt been in a gym together since
    then (its Sept 7).

    According to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Knicks will hold a players-only
    preseason camp from Oct. 19 - Nov. 6.
    The camp was organized by Amare Stoudemire.
    After playing in the Melo-Goodman game in Baltimore last month, Carmelo
    Anthony said he hoped to organize an October camp.
    The original time for the opening of the NBA Training-Camp is usually the
    last week of Sept. or the first week of Oct.. The Summer League Games
    were cancel do to the lockout.
    The Knicks invested $100M each in Stat & Melo to represent the Knicks
    organization for the next 5 to 6 years (annually each makes twice as much
    as the headcoach, GM, and president).
    In the last 5 months of offseason the Knicks two superstars has not
    stepped-up to the plate to show they are worthy of being team-leaders.
    alot of talk with no action to show for it.

    The Lockout put the "team-ball" in Stat & Melo hands to organize
    and prepare teammates while representing the New York Knicks for
    the upcoming season. Our two super-stars for the last 5 month actually
    pass the "teamball" as if it was a hot potato. Pushing the schedual of
    the first team-wokout to Oct 19, which is the time we would be practicing
    for our 5th preseason game if the lockout wouldve ended the first week of
    September.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.

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    Here is a reminder of our final game to show what we are working
    with.....recall since the Boston Big-3 has been put together they
    have never swept a team in the playoffs....untill the Knicks.

    NEW YORK -- The [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] never let this develop into the intriguing series that was expected.
    Instead, they turned it into the easiest one their current group has ever experienced.
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] had 26 points and 10 rebounds, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] added 21 points and 12 assists, and the Celtics swept their way into the Eastern Conference semifinals, holding on for a 101-89 victory over the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] on Sunday.
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and reserve [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] each added 14 points for the Celtics, the first team into the second round after sweeping a series for the first time since a 3-0 victory over Indiana in 1992, the last series victory for their old Big Three before Larry Bird retired.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] had 32 points and nine rebounds, and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], who decided to play after his back felt better, finished with 19 points and 12 boards but shot only 5-of-20 from the field.
    I guess this is why I am more excited about getting Chuancy Billups
    (player/coach/and leadership strategy), then I am about the addition
    of a high scoring Melo.
    Chuancy Billups have two great seasons left in him, which is a strong
    reason why I want this lockout to end the month of September or October.
    I have lots of trust in a 26 minute per game Billups teaching and developing
    backcourt players TD/Fields/Shumpert/and Walker into a complete rotation.
    I dont trust Mike Dantoni with any of these backcourt players, his first
    philosophy of shooting the 3-ball made me want him FIRED his first season
    as a Knicks.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.

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    Originally Posted by knickscity
    Kenyon Martin could have made the finals with Melo in Denver, if he wasn't injured damn near every year.
    But yeah, I can see him latching on to a contender, and riding to the finals.
    He won't be a major contributor doing it.
    Kenyon Martin arrival in Denver never received any luv mainly b/c
    his outstanding leadership in college and the NBA caused conflict
    with Carmelo Anthony style of performance (huge offensive effort
    with no-defensive effort). And it didnt help Kenyon Martin when he
    called Coach Karl playoff strategy "no strategy at all".
    However, u and others could call Kenyon Martin tour in Denver injury-prone.
    While forgetting Kenyon Martin frontcourt leadership took Rookies Jason Collins & Richardson to the FINALS twice.
    K.Martin was the first pick in the draft and on his way to getting the ROY....
    but went down do to an injury, which immediately lead to the team trading Starbury for Jason Kidd.
    Funny how Stat's back injury appeared after the Melo trade, and hasnt
    healed in 5 straight months of his vacation.
    What happen to Curry Heart problem in Chicago?
    Gallo was out with back injury for 5 months his rookie season, before he
    received playingtime.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Kenyon Martin arrival in Denver never received any luv mainly b/c
    his outstanding leadership in college and the NBA caused conflict
    with Carmelo Anthony style of performance (huge offensive effort
    with no-defensive effort). And it didnt help Kenyon Martin when he
    called Coach Karl playoff strategy "no strategy at all".
    However, u and others could call Kenyon Martin tour in Denver injury-prone.
    While forgetting Kenyon Martin frontcourt leadership took Rookies Jason Collins & Richardson to the FINALS twice.
    K.Martin was the first pick in the draft and on his way to getting the ROY....
    but went down do to an injury, which immediately lead to the team trading Starbury for Jason Kidd.
    Funny how Stat's back injury appeared after the Melo trade, and hasnt
    healed in 5 straight months of his vacation.
    What happen to Curry Heart problem in Chicago?
    Gallo was out with back injury for 5 months his rookie season, before he
    received playingtime.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.
    funny how this thread has turned into kiya man talking to himself again lol.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Kenyon Martin arrival in Denver never received any luv mainly b/c
    his outstanding leadership in college and the NBA caused conflict
    with Carmelo Anthony style of performance (huge offensive effort
    with no-defensive effort). And it didnt help Kenyon Martin when he
    called Coach Karl playoff strategy "no strategy at all".
    However, u and others could call Kenyon Martin tour in Denver injury-prone.
    While forgetting Kenyon Martin frontcourt leadership took Rookies Jason Collins & Richardson to the FINALS twice.
    K.Martin was the first pick in the draft and on his way to getting the ROY....
    but went down do to an injury, which immediately lead to the team trading Starbury for Jason Kidd.
    Funny how Stat's back injury appeared after the Melo trade, and hasnt
    healed in 5 straight months of his vacation.
    What happen to Curry Heart problem in Chicago?
    Gallo was out with back injury for 5 months his rookie season, before he
    received playingtime.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.
    None of this post make any sense.

    What outstanding leadership did K-mart possess?

    Kenyon has always been injured, that's not an excuse, it's a reason.

    And no, Jason Kidd led the Nets to two straight finals appearances, not K-Mart. If anything Kidd made K-mart even look like an NBA player, definitely got him that contract from Denver, only to be more....injured.

    And who is Richardson???

    And what exactly does all that other stuff have to do with Melo?

    Stat didn't hurt his back in a game protecting the paint or something, he was styling with dunks in a warmup.

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    ^ Don't bother bro.. to Kiya.. everyone not in a Knick uni displayes unlimited potential to be great and have extremely high bball Iqs.. You'll see this after awhile..

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    Originally Posted by knickscity
    None of this post make any sense.

    What outstanding leadership did K-mart possess?

    Kenyon has always been injured, that's not an excuse, it's a reason.
    And no, Jason Kidd led the Nets to two straight finals appearances, not K-Mart. If anything Kidd made K-mart even look like an NBA player, definitely got him that contract from Denver, only to be more....injured.
    And who is Richardson???
    And what exactly does all that other stuff have to do with Melo?
    Stat didn't hurt his back in a game protecting the paint or something, he was styling with dunks in a warmup.
    Kenyon Martin could have made the finals with Melo in Denver, if he wasn't injured damn near every year.
    Funny how it looks like ($100M) Stat is about to follow the same path
    as ($100M) Kenyon Martin did with Melo.

    I could see u dont watch college ball....Kenyon Martin leadership in
    Cincinnatti made him the 1st pick in the NBA 2000 draft-class.
    The Rookie of the year was in K-Mart hands untill he got injured in
    late February (Marbury was the PG).
    My BAD.....on Richardson, I meant Richard Jefferson....my bad.

    Kenyon Martin and Amare had a lot to do with Marbury being traded
    from the Nets & the Suns. Their so-call injuries before and during the
    Marbury trade was not a coincidence.

    Jason Kidd is a great uptempo creative PG who had teammates like
    Mcdyess, Marion, Carter, and Dirk, but none of those teammates came
    close to doing what "Kidd & K-Mart" did in the NBA in a 3 year span.

    The topic of this thread is how many WINS Melo can give to a team?
    When the topic shouldve been can Melo do, or add on to what Stat
    did to the Knicks? Stat had (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season) teammates
    playing decent team-ball developing chemistry on both sides of the court.

    u cant teach, learn, or play "team-defense" on the fly from only a week of Training-Camp.

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    Originally Posted by DontForgetDerekHarper
    funny how this thread has turned into kiya man talking to himself again lol.
    I was speed writing at work....what is your excuse

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    Originally Posted by DontForgetDerekHarper
    I never said the knicks talent was shattered, I said CORE CORE CORE

    their talent has increased tremendously, and the chemistry will eventually be there. I beg to differ that that chemistry was there with the former early season squad; based on the fact that they were playing terrrrible going into the all star break, after starting 22-15 they lost something like 10 out of 15 before the melo trade, so dont act like they were 27-14 top 3 team in the east, then melo came over and destroyed us

    I said our CORE was shattered, in terms of our team we improved.

    i smell hater
    I said, I said, I said.....another one of your I said threads

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Jason Kidd is a great uptempo creative PG who had teammates like
    Mcdyess, Marion, Carter, and Dirk, but none of those teammates came
    close to doing what "Kidd & K-Mart" did in the NBA in a 3 year span.
    Well, Dirk and Kidd winning a title is pretty close to "what [they] did in the NBA in a 3 year span." It is actually much more. But I have to agree with you that "building up chemistry" and "getting the team together for a training camp" has been lip-service so far.

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