Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Amnesty

  1. #1
    Scoring Champ CA7's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,869
    Rep Power
    14

    Default Amnesty

    With the Amnesty clause potentially in place I got a couple guys I think will be available to us we can sign them for minimum deals as they will get paid out their contracts anyway from other teams so potentially other teams will pay for us to have players.

    Guys Like:

    Emeka Okafor- legit big in the league would do wonders with Amar'e, Melo and potentially CP3

    Ben Gordon- While I like Toney Douglas I think Ben Gordon is 10x better he can be that legit scoring option of the bench while Shumpert handles playing the D off the bench

    Marvin Williams- D'Antoni needs 2 way players a guy like Marvin is better than Shawne Williams and our spread offense will make his 3 point shooting better as he will see more open looks. He can play that 3-4 hybrid spot off the bench Lamar Odom type of effect

    Ramon Sessions- Another pure PG would be an excellent option to have and D'Antoni loves Sessions.

    We can let Shawne Williams and Bill Walker walk, trade Douglas to a team like Chicago for draft picks, trade Rautins to Toronto they might want him.

    We have the money not only to get these 4 but also we have leverage as they still will get paid top dollar but also living the NYC lifestyle and playing on a potential Championship contender also 3 of these guys have Nike deals so their endorsements will increase playing in NYC.

    Billups/Sessions/Shumpert
    Fields/Gordon/Shumpert
    Anthony/Williams/Balkman
    Stoudemire/Williams/Turiaf
    Okafor/Turiaf/Jordan

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    183
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    I'd take Okafor because of dire need at the five, the rest... nope do not want.

    Marvin is a better player, but not better for our team than Purp.

    Purp compliments Melo and Stat, doesn't mind the dirty work, wants to be here, and is willing to damn near play for free.

    Sessions is ok, but I can just see teams just flat out not guard him and personally I'd rather bring AC back.

    Ben Gordon for the min...sure, anything else nope...bring back T-Mac and let him have those 12-15 backup minutes.

  3. #3
    Quiet Storm New New York's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,431
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    How would the amnesty clause work exactly?

  4. #4
    Scoring Champ CA7's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,869
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Teams will release players who they feel they dont want a financial commitment too. i.e. Arenas, Lewis those players will still be paid by those teams but they wont count against the cap. Those players then become UFA free to sign with any team. This will help us get depth for cheap but will also help Miami as players like Brendan Haywood, Baron Davis, Mo Williams and Emeka Okafor might be released and they would def sign with Miami for a shot at a title

  5. #5
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    2,795
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Mo Williams would definitely sign with Miami to be with LeBron again cause he wants LeBron's dick lol

    That being said if we could somehow swing Okafor that would be amazing. If we could build a roster that had CP3, Melo, Amar'e, and Okafor, we'd be champs.

  6. #6
    Super Moderator RunningJumper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,038
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    I know nothing about this so..........this sounds like the cap doesn't exist or it's ridiculous. Small market teams would be toast. In your scenario not only would Chris Paul AND Okafor be added to the team...Turiaf would still be on on the roster.

    Yes, that team would be great, but this sounds like the NBA would be even worse.

    Anybody care to explain this thing to me?

  7. #7
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,301
    Rep Power
    20

    Angry I do not want the Amnesty-Clause......

    I like the idea of adding Okafor to our Knicks roster, but I would
    be more happy if we kept the same (soft-cap) "CBA rules" now
    that "high-cap Isiah and low-cap Walsh" tanking seasons are gone.
    Stand-in GM Glen Grunwald could split our MLE between C-Kwame
    and C-Jason Collins, while signing the D.League shotblocker Sean
    Williams to the minimum. The addition of these 3 veteran bigman in
    every practice with our young big rookies Harrellson & Jordan would
    be the right competition to translate their raw performance into the NBA.

    The number-one reason I see for the 90 somethin days of lock-out,
    and the animosity between D.Wade vs Stern (my opinion)

    I do not see the Players-union agreeing to any part of the
    "Super Luxury Tax", that rule will clearly rob the profit of all
    the contender-teams in the future. Once its implimented into
    the NBA it will only go up higher after a certain amount of seasons.
    So not agreeing to the super luxury tax eliminates all the complicated
    idea that comes with it like the "amnesty-clause".
    Every teams 9-Man rotation will have to equal under $70M per in
    contracts, leaving no room to resign drafted stars or superstars at
    the end of their contracts without going into a higher luxury-tax bracket.
    The Championship Mavs showed in their postseason presence its
    the 9th, 10th, and 11th man in the rotation to give u the winning edge.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    104
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Okafor would get deals worth more than the minimum still. He's not worth his current contract, but he is still a productive center so he will easily get MLE money.

  9. #9
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,915
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Amnesty thought this was about letting Jayson Williams out of jail.

    Here's an article discussing amnesty in the NBA. Bill Simmons thinks we'll trade Billups and use amnesty on Turiaf.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

  10. #10
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    2,795
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Seriously, though, having Okafor would change the game for us dramatically. He's a tough center who grabs a ton of rebounds and protects the rim really well.

    Last time I checked that's pretty much exactly what kept getting us burned. If rebounding is our problem then I see no reason for us to attempt to sign a guy like Okafor even if it means forgoing a third maximum contract. I'll take Steve Nash + Okafor over CP3 alone anyday

  11. #11
    Veteran Wargames's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,202
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    I agree if NO cuts Okafor the Knicks should move damn near mountains to get him since what he does is exactly what the Knicks need as a post presence.

    If he was to sign a 3 year deal for say the new MLE equivalent with the Knicks they would be set for a while.

    However its not a guarantee NO may figure they should keep him because in a way amnestying Okafor means they will not have a decent Center to be a contender and CP3 will definitely walk. If they're smart they may just let Ariza go and use that money along with the 8 million in trade exceptions they have during free agency to put some good people around Paul to make a run in the West. Right now the west is in weakened and in flux and they could go deep.

    On the flip the most likely best centers to be amnestied are Brendan Haywood of Chris Kaman.....
    Last edited by Wargames; Oct 04, 2011 at 09:28.

  12. #12
    Quiet Storm New New York's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,431
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    I know nothing about this so..........this sounds like the cap doesn't exist or it's ridiculous. Small market teams would be toast. In your scenario not only would Chris Paul AND Okafor be added to the team...Turiaf would still be on on the roster.

    Yes, that team would be great, but this sounds like the NBA would be even worse.

    Anybody care to explain this thing to me?
    Well not really just the small market teams, but rather the bad teams. I think OKC would do good with such a clause and big market teams like The Clippers and Nets would not do so well

    Basically the released player is in a lot of ways set financially so they would try to go some where they would have a shot at a title, which why I agree that overall this would suck for The League!!!!

  13. #13
    Evacuee Crazy⑧s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    日本
    Posts
    6,488
    Rep Power
    28

    Default

    Originally Posted by Wargames
    I agree if NO cuts Okafor the Knicks should move damn near mountains to get him since what he does is exactly what the Knicks need as a post presence.

    If he was to sign a 3 year deal for say the new MLE equivalent with the Knicks they would be set for a while.

    However its not a guarantee NO may figure they should keep him because in a way amnestying Okafor means they will not have a decent Center to be a contender and CP3 will definitely walk. If they're smart they may just let Ariza go and use that money along with the 8 million in trade exceptions they have during free agency to put some good people around Paul to make a run in the West. Right now the west is in weakened and in flux and they could go deep.

    On the flip the most likely best centers to be amnestied are Brendan Haywood of Chris Kaman.....
    I concur....

Similar Threads

  1. The Free Agency
    By Real NY Baller in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: Dec 05, 2011, 13:00
  2. Replies: 40
    Last Post: Aug 15, 2005, 16:55

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •