We Now Need a Point Guard more than anything.

KBlack25 said:

1) He had surgery
2) Crawford has proven he can be an effective player in the league game-in and game-out
3) Douglas is overrated on defense - he takes a ton of chances and got manhandled by Delonte West
4) Douglas has not shown he has the passing ability, meanwhile I think they believe (and I believe) Crawford does - Eddy Curry's best season is largely attributed to Crawford's ability to distribute.

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Red said:

+ We signed Mike Bibby! (not that I'm excited) Bibby is MOA's answer at the point thus Crawford is looked at to probably replace Fields at SG if acquired.

Is Crawford better than Fields?

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NY17KNICKS said:

I gotta go with yes

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Knicks Working On Crawford Sign-And-Trade
Dec 11, 2011 11:37 AM EST


The Knicks are seeking a three-team sign-and-trade to acquire Jamal Crawford, according to a source.

One source put the odds of a deal being consummated at better than 50 percent.

Crawford may be able to sign for a deal that puts his annual salary at over $5 million.

According to Ken Berger, the current version of the proposal wouldn't include Toney Douglas.

Sam Amick reports the Warriors are not involved in negotiations.



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217367/Knicks_Working_On_Crawford_Sign_And_Trade#ixzz1gGH4vHYK

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CA7 said:

Just because he's not an All Defense Defender doesnt mean he cant defend, he's a D'Antoni and Woodson guy so it only makes sense for both to be attracted to him

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CuseGirl said:

while i'm happy we got a defensive assistant, I'm not convinced Woodson is some defensive guru and to be honest, I dont like "Dantoni type guys". To me, that means he's a guy who lacks toughness, efficiency, defensive motivation and defensive IQ. Just cuz he played for Woodson (and I believe Atlanta's players gave up on Woodson during the playoff series when Orlando killed them 2 yrs back) doesn't mean he's a good pickup.

I'm just shocked people think he's bringing anything more than volume scoring and ball hogging, which we have enuff of, on the roster and in coachign philosophy.

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CuseGirl said:

while i'm happy we got a defensive assistant, I'm not convinced Woodson is some defensive guru and to be honest, I dont like "Dantoni type guys". To me, that means he's a guy who lacks toughness, efficiency, defensive motivation and defensive IQ. Just cuz he played for Woodson (and I believe Atlanta's players gave up on Woodson during the playoff series when Orlando killed them 2 yrs back) doesn't mean he's a good pickup.

I'm just shocked people think he's bringing anything more than volume scoring and ball hogging, which we have enuff of, on the roster and in coachign philosophy.

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Forrest17 said:

Tbh, I really think we do need a legit scoring option to come off the bench, Other than Amar'e and Melo, we don't really have any reliable scorers.. especially in the back court or on the bench.. Fields and TD really weren't effective at all in the play offs on either side of the floor..neither was Mike Bibby.. And other than them all we've got is Bill Walker.. While I know they should improve this year, I still don't want to take the chance of what happened to us last year, happening again. I hear that we aren't going to give up TD for Crawford, because I wouldn't want to do that either, but he would add alot to this team that we do actually need imo.

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The Knicks, Hawks and Warriors were in talks Sunday on a three-team sign-and-trade that would bring combo guard Jamal Crawford back to the club, according to an NBA source.
Although a source thought it had a better than 50-50 chance of happening, one person familiar with the Knicks thinking said they will not include guard Toney Douglas, a native of Atlanta, or Landry Fields in a Crawford package, which has damaged the chances of this going down.
Crawford is one of the top free agents available but the market hasn't been strong for him. The Knicks have offered Crawford their $2.5 million mini exception which he has rejected. Crawford prefers a sign-and-trade so he can make upwards of $5 million per season.
Agent Andy Miller told the Indy Star Crawford is still considering the Pacers, however Indiana signed power forward David West Sunday.
One person familiar with the Knicks thinking said Douglas is the club's starting point guard and they don't want to give him up in this scenario for Crawford. It is possible the Knicks are also being used to drive Crawford's market value up elsewhere.
The Knicks traded Crawford three years ago to create cap room for 2010 but was a favorite of coach Mike D'Antoni's. Crawford has tweeted his interest in the Knicks this morning.
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Meanwhile the Knicks announced the signing today of another Hawks guard Mike Bibby and view him as Douglas' backup.
"Mike is a veteran point guard who we know can be successful in our system," Knicks interim general manager Glen Grunwald said in a statement. "He's an effective player who has a long track record of leading his teams to postseason success."
Rookies Iman Shumpert and Josh Harrellson and Jared Jeffries officially signed their contracts today and practiced, giving them 11 in uniform, including Tyson Chandler.


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One day after reaching a surprising agreement with center Tyson Chandler, the New York Knicks are attempting to acquire another notable free agent. The Knicks are zeroing in on Jamal Crawford and trying to add the veteran shooting guard through a sign-and-trade, according to sources close to the situation.

The Knicks contacted Crawford’s camp on Friday and are trying to sell him on the situation. Crawford would have to take a significant pay cut to join the Knicks, but sources say he’s open to the idea.

New York is over the cap and has no exception money. They also have few trade assets to offer. If the Hawks were willing to do a sign-and-trade with New York built around Renaldo Balkman’s $1.67 million deal, Bill Walker’s $916,000 deal and Toney Douglas’ $1.145 million deal, the Knicks would be sending out $3.73 million in salaries. The new collective bargaining agreement would allow New York to take back 150 percent plus or minus $100,000, which would give Crawford a starting salary of $5.6 million.

Last season, Crawford averaged 14.2 points for the Atlanta Hawks. In 2010, Crawford won the NBA’s Sixth Man of the Year award. Mike Woodson, who is now an assistant coach with the Knicks, coached Crawford in Atlanta and the two are still very close.

The Knicks are doing whatever they can to surround Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire with talent. The addition of Chandler was a start and they’d love to add Crawford to their core as well.

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toNYknicks said:

WHOA...Fields is far from expenable unless your talking someone of significant quality. Fields should of been rookie of the year because Blake wasnt a rookie. Blakes rookie season was spent hurt! I would more easily trade Toney than Fields. If we keep Jeffries and lose Landry it would be an abomination

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toNYknicks said:

Landry had the 2nd most rebounds amongst rookies behind Griffin and 2nd most rebounds amongst guards in the NBA, not to mention he was a ROOKIE! Outside of Ogres like Dwight, Shaq, Bynum , etc or the next coming of magic johnson it is exceptionally rare for rookies to have a significant impact. Not to mention his late season woes to me were more of Dantoni's fault then anything else. Regardless of his intangibles and already proven chemistry with the team I would trade him also but not for a Jamal Crawford type player! ...idk might just be me but Landry Fields potential> Jamal Crawford

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