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    Originally Posted by CA7
    Reggie gets the mini MLE
    Baron gets the vet minimum 1.4mil
    Shawne takes the vet minimum 890K

    Then we're set we can trade Balkman and Walker to teams who need to fill their cap
    That would be great.

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    Originally Posted by MeloforMayor
    That would be great.

    sounds good. id still like to keep walker though.. we need dept.. nobody thinks about injuries????

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    Originally Posted by CA7
    Reggie gets the mini MLE
    Baron gets the vet minimum 1.4mil
    Shawne takes the vet minimum 890K

    Then we're set we can trade Balkman and Walker to teams who need to fill their cap
    Damn this would be amazzing, cmon Knicks FO make it happen!

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Damn this would be amazzing, cmon Knicks FO make it happen!
    Yeah that would be amazing. Make it happen Glen!

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    Been watching more film and in all honesty he would be the perfect 3rd scorer to compliment STAT and Melo, I mean I know Crawford is good but he's not an off the ball guy, Reggie is a great off the ball guy and rotating Douglas/Fields/Shumpert/Bibby/Williams would be great for the long haul of the season we'd have everything we'd need in our backcourt from size(Fields, Williams, Shumpert), Speed(Douglas and Shumpert), experience(Bibby and Fields), defense(Shumpert, Douglas, Fields and Williams), shooting(Bibby, Douglas, Williams) and athleticism(Shumpert and Williams). Imagine going forward with those 4 young guys, STAT, Melo and Extra E at the 3/4 and Chandler and Jordan at the 5, continuity is the best thing is basketball having 9 guys who know the system and fit perfect with each other. This unit will win at least 2 rings. I pray we get Reggie and Shawne, I pray

    F- Carmelo Anthony
    F- Amar'e Stoudemire
    C- Tyson Chandler
    G- Landry Fields
    G- Toney Douglas
    G- Iman Shumpert
    C- Jerome Jordan
    F- Shawne Williams
    G- Reggie Williams

    New York Basketball is Back

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    Man, I'd love to get both bro..Any idea how?

    I think Shawne's waiting on us right now which tells me 1 of 2 things: (1) he may not really have the offers out there that he and his agent want us to believe he has (I've heard there's interest---Chicago from a few weeks ago, Indiana possibly, now the Warriors all of a sudden---but haven't heard of any concrete offers made which is kind of telling -- you usually hear specific numbers being talking about) and (2), I think he may be waiting to see if Crawford takes our 'room' offer or not. If Craw rejects it, the Knicks may have promised it to him. If Craw does take that offer however, would Shawne take the vet min for a year? Maybe. Maybe that's why he's still hanging around NYC, working out on his own -- hopeful of a $2-yr/$5M deal but willing to accept less on a brief 1-yr deal if the Knicks land Crawford. Hard situation to read right now with Shawne..

    If he does indeed have offers from other teams, I wouldn't want to piss him off by offering the room exception to a guy like Reggie Williams after Crawford turns us down...He may take that as an insult and bolt. He might understand where the Knicks are going with Crawford but may take the same contract offer to a less-established player like Reggie Williams over him as an insult (in actuality though, is Shawne really all that more established than Reggie anyway? Not really when you think about it..You get the feeling that the Knicks are finally an attractive team for players -- playing for the Knicks sells itself now). That's if we wanted BOTH -- if push came to shove and I was forced to zero in on one guy only, like I've been saying, it'd be Reggie. To me, Reggie Williams covers just about everything we could be looking for right now in ONE package: affordability (unlike other players he should be satisfied with a 'room exception' offer which is a fairly substantial raise for him over last year---Shawne's probably ready to jump on that and he made more than Reggie last yr); 40% 3-pt shooter with a track record going back to the DL before Golden State (has Craw ever come close to shooting 40% from deep? I could be wrong but I don't think so---Craw's always been a volume shooter; this guy's more of a marksman); adept scorer/additional firepower off the bench or to start if MDA so inclines (why couldn't this guy ever win a 6th MOY award playing here? I think he could -- coming off the bench playing for Mike D'Antoni? Absolutely he could); enough size at 6'6" to play the 2 AND 3 (legit backup for Melo that we currently lack); has shown that he's capable of handling a much heavier scoring workload if he had to (God forbid Melo went down for a stretch -- who has a better chance of picking up his scoring, Shawne or Reggie? Easy answer.)... Also, I understand that unlike Shawne, he wouldn't be able to slide down and guard the post but I think we've beefed up the frontline significantly to the point where we wouldn't really require Shawne to do that anymore..The fact that he can do it is still a plus but it no longer feels like a necessity.

    Now if I were the Knicks and I truly wanted Reggie AND Shawne, I might aggressively offer Reggie the room exception (plus a rotation spot on a much improved/possible championship caliber team playing for Mike D'Antoni--an offensive player's dream) and then turn to Shawne and say, look, take the vet min for 1 more yr (only 66 gms plus the playoffs -- so it's already a reduced schedule anyway -- if there's a yr for a guy to take less on a 1-yr deal, this is it) and we promise to give you the bulk of (if not the entire) MLE next yr. That actually may placate him. Something like that maybe.

    Or, if there's any truth to the new CBA rumor that current players on NBA rosters can re-structure their deals to give management more cap leeway to offer another player, I say let Amar'e and Melo re-work their contracts just enough to allow Knicks brass to up their offer to Shawne to keep him in Orange and Blue. Could we do that possibly?? We're not talking a lot of money for STAT or Melo to divert here (I think STAT and Shawne became pretty tight btw -- weren't they working out together in FLA during the lockout? I could see Amar'e being open to the idea and convincing Melo. Plus, it'd be great for team chemistry for them to do something that for Shawne) -- only a negligible amount ($500-750k from both guys?) which could allow us to make more of a fair offer to Shawne and keep him happy, esp. if we wanna offer the room exception to someone else. Just a thought..
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    Knicks, Blazers, Bobcats, Pistons Emerge As Finalists For Reggie Williams
    Dec 14, 2011 12:39 PM EST


    The Knicks, Blazers, Bobcats and Pistons are the four finalists for wing Reggie Williams, according to sources.

    Williams was a restricted free agent of the Warriors, but they rescinded their qualifying offer to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet.

    Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)
    Reggie Williams, New York Knicks, Portland Trail Blazers, Detroit Pistons, Charlotte Bobcats, NBA, NBA Signing Rumor, NBA Misc Rumor


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    Originally Posted by carlhil2
    Knicks, Blazers, Bobcats, Pistons Emerge As Finalists For Reggie Williams
    Dec 14, 2011 12:39 PM EST


    The Knicks, Blazers, Bobcats and Pistons are the four finalists for wing Reggie Williams, according to sources.

    Williams was a restricted free agent of the Warriors, but they rescinded their qualifying offer to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet.

    Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)
    Reggie Williams, New York Knicks, Portland Trail Blazers, Detroit Pistons, Charlotte Bobcats, NBA, NBA Signing Rumor, NBA Misc Rumor


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    i like this GM. if he pull this off.. remove the intrim tag

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    Originally Posted by moneyg
    i like this GM. if he pull this off.. remove the intrim tag
    I'll say..Nice to see the Knicks' name added to the list. He makes too much sense for us not to be involved. I hope we get him. Thanks Carl!

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    Originally Posted by finestrg
    Man, I'd love to get both bro..Any idea how?

    I think Shawne's waiting on us right now which tells me 1 of 2 things: (1) he may not really have the offers out there that he and his agent want us to believe he has (I've heard there's interest---Chicago from a few weeks ago, Indiana possibly, now the Warriors all of a sudden---but haven't heard of any concrete offers made which is kind of telling -- you usually hear specific numbers being talking about) and (2), I think he may be waiting to see if Crawford takes our 'room' offer or not. If Craw rejects it, the Knicks may have promised it to him. If Craw does take that offer however, would Shawne take the vet min for a year? Maybe. Maybe that's why he's still hanging around NYC, working out on his own -- hopeful of a $2-yr/$5M deal but willing to accept less on a brief 1-yr deal if the Knicks land Crawford. Hard situation to read right now with Shawne..

    If he does indeed have offers from other teams, I wouldn't want to piss him off by offering the room exception to a guy like Reggie Williams after Crawford turns us down...He may take that as an insult and bolt. He might understand where the Knicks are going with Crawford but may take the same contract offer to a less-established player like Reggie Williams over him as an insult (in actuality though, is Shawne really all that more established than Reggie anyway? Not really when you think about it..You get the feeling that the Knicks are finally an attractive team for players -- playing for the Knicks sells itself now). That's if we wanted BOTH -- if push came to shove and I was forced to zero in on one guy only, like I've been saying, it'd be Reggie. To me, Reggie Williams covers just about everything we could be looking for right now in ONE package: affordability (unlike other players he should be satisfied with a 'room exception' offer which is a fairly substantial raise for him over last year---Shawne's probably ready to jump on that and he made more than Reggie last yr); 40% 3-pt shooter with a track record going back to the DL before Golden State (has Craw ever come close to shooting 40% from deep? I could be wrong but I don't think so---Craw's always been a volume shooter; this guy's more of a marksman); adept scorer/additional firepower off the bench or to start if MDA so inclines (why couldn't this guy ever win a 6th MOY award playing here? I think he could -- coming off the bench playing for Mike D'Antoni? Absolutely he could); enough size at 6'6" to play the 2 AND 3 (legit backup for Melo that we currently lack); has shown that he's capable of handling a much heavier scoring workload if he had to (God forbid Melo went down for a stretch -- who has a better chance of picking up his scoring, Shawne or Reggie? Easy answer.)... Also, I understand that unlike Shawne, he wouldn't be able to slide down and guard the post but I think we've beefed up the frontline significantly to the point where we wouldn't really require Shawne to do that anymore..The fact that he can do it is still a plus but it no longer feels like a necessity.

    Now if I were the Knicks and I truly wanted Reggie AND Shawne, I might aggressively offer Reggie the room exception (plus a rotation spot on a much improved/possible championship caliber team playing for Mike D'Antoni--an offensive player's dream) and then turn to Shawne and say, look, take the vet min for 1 more yr (only 66 gms plus the playoffs -- so it's already a reduced schedule anyway -- if there's a yr for a guy to take less on a 1-yr deal, this is it) and we promise to give you the bulk of (if not the entire) MLE next yr. That actually may placate him. Something like that maybe.

    Or, if there's any truth to the new CBA rumor that current players on NBA rosters can re-structure their deals to give management more cap leeway to offer another player, I say let Amar'e and Melo re-work their contracts just enough to allow Knicks brass to up their offer to Shawne to keep him in Orange and Blue. Could we do that possibly?? We're not talking a lot of money for STAT or Melo to divert here (I think STAT and Shawne became pretty tight btw -- weren't they working out together in FLA during the lockout? I could see Amar'e being open to the idea and convincing Melo. Plus, it'd be great for team chemistry for them to do something that for Shawne) -- only a negligible amount ($500-750k from both guys?) which could allow us to make more of a fair offer to Shawne and keep him happy, esp. if we wanna offer the room exception to someone else. Just a thought..
    I like Shawne but until he proves otherwise dude is a 2.5 million for 3 years player. The knicks will probably use the MLE on a pg next year unless Toney shows he can run the point effectively.

    Reggue Williams sounds interesting though. He's young, not to expensive, and can put up numbers. I wouldn't use him as a starter but as a key part of the second unit that lacks scoring ability. He would also be good in situations against teams that have lockdown defensive wings (Miami) because he could negate the dropoff of a defensive scheme aimed at slowing Carmelo's game. Also if fields does not bounce back (though I think he will) reggie could be a starter.

    Thats my only reservation about jamal crawford I don't know if he could function as a 3rd option in the starting unit and not chuck up shots based on reflex.

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    Originally Posted by finestrg
    I'll say..Nice to see the Knicks' name added to the list. He makes too much sense for us not to be involved. I hope we get him. Thanks Carl!
    since i build computers for a living, i am in front of one all day, and i am so excited about the upcoming season, i am everywhere trying to get info, god it feels good, living in Boston as a Knicks fan can be tough, been waiting for this since the JVG days, the Celtics are going to be caught sleeping, the Sports Talk radio stations here stay killing the Knicks, meanwhile forgetting that both Ainge and Rivers were about to be ran out of town, til Ainge and Mckale made that "i am about to be out the door, want my best player for a bag of balls" trade!

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    Originally Posted by carlhil2

    The Knicks, Blazers, Bobcats and Pistons are the four finalists for wing Reggie Williams, according to sources.
    Let's examine that list for a sec. I gotta believe we have a leg up on all 3 teams. I say the Blazers get Crawford -- they're offering double what we are and Craw's from the area (Seattle). The Bobcats are an absolute joke of a franchise with a hypocrite douche-bag owner that forgot where he came from and didn't wanna see the players get paid and the Pistons, another franchise not ready to win anything, have their hands tied right now trying to keep Rodney Stuckey (per hoopshype, he just turned down a 5-yr deal worth between $40-45M to stay). Unless these 3 teams offer a lot more than us, I think we could really get this guy man. I'm glad we got involved. We should've went HARD the other day when he first became available but better late than never I guess. Fingers crossed here guys. Man, this guy's offensive skills in a D'Antoni offense? ****, sign me up son!
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    Originally Posted by carlhil2
    since i build computers for a living, i am in front of one all day, and i am so excited about the upcoming season, i am everywhere trying to get info, god it feels good, living in Boston as a Knicks fan can be tough, been waiting for this since the JVG days, the Celtics are going to be caught sleeping, the Sports Talk radio stations here stay killing the Knicks, meanwhile forgetting that both Ainge and Rivers were about to be ran out of town, til Ainge and Mckale made that "i am about to be out the door, want my best player for a bag of balls" trade!
    LOL...Give 'em hell up there for us brother! Thank you & keep it coming man. You hear anything let us know.

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    If I were Grunwald, I might offer this guy the starting 2G spot as well as the full 'room exception.' That's about all we can do. Maybe that puts us over the edge. All due respect to Landry Fields, who I like a lot and normally would've wanted to see continue in the starting role -- but this is different. I want this player. After all it doesn't matter who starts, it's who's playing well and who finishes the games in the 4th quarter that really matters. We might have to get creative here and offer a starting role. The Bobcats can't possibly be a serious destination in Reggie's mind, no matter what they're offering. F Michael Jordan -- who'd wanna play for him after the **** he pulled? Plus, that team sucks ****..

    I think Portland and Detroit will be able to offer more money than us, esp. if they lose out on Crawford and Stuckey respectively. We might have to get creative -- I say offer a starting role at SG. Maybe that entices him..

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    Ok we're out the crawful runnings so hopefully the knicks sign this guy and shawne.

    Knicks bench

    Shumpert
    Harrelson
    R. Williams
    S. Williams
    Bibby
    Jefferies
    Skywalker
    Jordan
    Green
    Balkman
    Hunter

    I think that bench csn score about 20 - 30 .and can defend. Maybw thw fronr office can sign and trade the warriore balkmqn for reggies rights.

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