I understand the need for a PG to orchestrate for two ball dominant players, but at some point you have to realize that the complaints against MDA (the well thought out ones) go far beyond the team's yearning for a traditional, floor general, PG.
As any sort of strategist, in any arena of competition, you have to mitigate your deficiencies and lean heavily on your strengths. The Knicks simply don't do that. MDA still tries to run his "system" without the proper components, he runs the team straight into the ground, and when it causes him to get booed at MSG and the scrutiny comes in the media--only then do we see a few more drive-and-kick plays in the next couple of games....only to go right back to "MDA-ball" after the heat wears off a little, and the super reactionary media, and their closest subscribers start the "phew!! that was close, but it looks like we're on track now." Only problem is that, this season, those games came against: the 1-3 Sac-Town Kings who were having inner turmoil, the winless....0-7 Wizards, the 2-6 Detroit Pistons, the 2-7 Bobcats....who we let back into that game by not scoring a single field goal from 1:54 in the 3rd to 1:34 in the 4th. Forgive me for not thinking that a lack of a true PG is a good enough excuse to not score ONE. BASKET. FROM. THE. FIELD. for what's essentially 11 to 12 minutes. That's ridiculous for a professional basketball team with a professional coaching staff....PG or no PG. And of course there's the win that the media got hyped about, over the 7-3 Philly 76ers, who were on the tail end of a back-to-back-to-back.
Kinda funny how when the Knicks play poorly, we have to keep in mind the lockout, schedule, lack of training camp, lack of practice, the price of rice in China, Tim Tebow's "it" factor, Tom Brady's hot wife, THE BAGS AROUND DAVID STERNS EYES, any and everything. But when we beat a 7-3 team that's literally playing it's 3rd game in 3 nights, it was an "impressive" win. This NYK team has had more excuses fabricated for them by commentators and obscure writers on sites like Grantland, than a guilty dude on trial.
If all this team really needs is a PG, then lets hope we get that PG along with a new coach. So that way when this Christ-like PG struggles a bit, he has a coach that can take note of the issues and adjust on the fly.
You know it's a miracle people aren't scoring more against us...
Crazy⑧s;197402 said:This farce has gotten beyond insane.
Clearly the strategy, or lack-there-of, is in such discord with the players left to execute it, that after 15 games we've seen barely any improvement.
But there's been no notable adjustment in an attempt to garner any improvement - :shrug:. Am I wrong here? Has there been a notable change made to a failing approach?
And, amazingly, the team unceasingly repeats the theme. There has been literally no apparent attempt to incorporate STAT and Melo as a tandem, nor to enforce their presence in the paint. And the P&R with Amar'e is just not there? Has he been actively told not to run it? All our players are constantly left to create on a whim. It's lunacy! That's the only way to put it. It's as if we are trying to make it more difficult for ourselves by reacting to the moment.
Again, though it would help, this goes WAY beyond adding a PG.
What's the result of our MO? We're in the 8th seed at 6 and 9. Philadelphia are in 2nd at 11-4. Am I the only one seeing a discrepancy in talent here?
Are we really going to continue to let 'all we need is a PG' be the focal reason as to why we're so utterly shit? Are our guards, excluding Douglas, so inept that they are unable to pass the ball in to the low post where we are [literally and figuratively] heaviest?
We've had the easiest schedule in the league thus far.
Night after night we've been playing a team with a key contributor out due to injury.
We have a favorable mismatch in the front-court every night, but play no inside game.
The coaching is poor, the demeanor is worse ~ particularly Carmelo Anthony, who I'm quickly beginning to build a dislike toward, Amar'e is the league's worst captain, and the league's most clueless interior defender.
The coaching is definitely a problem, how can you say it's not?
But these 3:
Are failures at their positions.
It has gotten beyond just D'Antoni and his +/- system not accounting for the intricacies and the human equation of the game.
STAT and Melo are stars, but they are both very, very ****ing far from being superstars. Superstars are winners, these 2 are losers.
It's a very hard time to be a Knick fan right now.
Crazy⑧s;197402 said:This farce has gotten beyond insane.
Clearly the strategy, or lack-there-of, is in such discord with the players left to execute it, that after 15 games we've seen barely any improvement.
But there's been no notable adjustment in an attempt to garner any improvement - :shrug:. Am I wrong here? Has there been a notable change made to a failing approach?
And, amazingly, the team unceasingly repeats the theme. There has been literally no apparent attempt to incorporate STAT and Melo as a tandem, nor to enforce their presence in the paint. And the P&R with Amar'e is just not there? Has he been actively told not to run it? All our players are constantly left to create on a whim. It's lunacy! That's the only way to put it. It's as if we are trying to make it more difficult for ourselves by reacting to the moment.
Again, though it would help, this goes WAY beyond adding a PG.
What's the result of our MO? We're in the 8th seed at 6 and 9. Philadelphia are in 2nd at 11-4. Am I the only one seeing a discrepancy in talent here?
Are we really going to continue to let 'all we need is a PG' be the focal reason as to why we're so utterly shit? Are our guards, excluding Douglas, so inept that they are unable to pass the ball in to the low post where we are [literally and figuratively] heaviest?
We've had the easiest schedule in the league thus far.
Night after night we've been playing a team with a key contributor out due to injury.
We have a favorable mismatch in the front-court every night, but play no inside game.
The coaching is poor, the demeanor is worse ~ particularly Carmelo Anthony, who I'm quickly beginning to build a dislike toward, Amar'e is the league's worst captain, and the league's most clueless interior defender.
The coaching is definitely a problem, how can you say it's not?
But these 3:
Are failures at their positions.
It has gotten beyond just D'Antoni and his +/- system not accounting for the intricacies and the human equation of the game.
STAT and Melo are stars, but they are both very, very ****ing far from being superstars. Superstars are winners, these 2 are losers.
It's a very hard time to be a Knick fan right now.
this is a coaching issue
:agreed: But I think Melo & STAT are being used incorrectly. I wonder what would happen if we let Melo feed STAT in the post? Think the other team might piss their pants?
You think someone somewhere on the court would be WIDE OPEN?
Think Melo's man doubles STAT?
Or is STAT allowed to go 1 on 1?
No matter how you slice it, it seems we'd have an advantage SOMEDAMWHERE...
I can't even rep Crazy or Clyde, but both spoke the truth.
Something's gotta give tho. STAT and Melo are playing like losers, which superstars don't do....but they're also being used incorrectly. It should be a constant barrage of inside-out basketball. Melo feeding STAT, STAT feeding Melo, work being done. It's not that they can't coexist on the same team, they can't coexist in this offense....then change the mother ****ing offense...am I correct? Isn't that what coaches do?
I need to see someone else, other than Melo, pissed off. MDA can't make excuses for his stars, STAT can't talk about needing to come together and get better, Chandler can't talk about the lack of communication anymore, no more gelling, and "figuring things out."
Someone else has to feel as if they were punked, and come out swinging tonight. Preferably not someone with 35 of the team's 86 points.
15 games, none of which you could look at and say "if they played like that against [name of contending team], they'd whoop up on 'em."
I saw someone post "well the Thunder lost to the Wizards..." as if to say that anyone could beat anyone...which is technically true, but the Thunder also systematically takes teams apart, and when you bring some weak bullshit to their house, they hang 70 around your neck in a half.
Enough is enough.
How long we gotta wait for inspired basketball? Hell, the Wizards are playing with more fire than the Knicks. If we had that same amount of drive, we would stumble our way to an 11-4 record.
Agreed, i say this every game, and the games we've won are inspite of him, not because of him.He tried to cost us a win earlier, by not fouling while we were up 3, with a foul to give, with like 5 secs to go.this is a coaching issue
8's please don't let your emotions allow you to be fooled.
Crazy⑧s;197517 said:Fooled?
Emotions?
Red, I know you are the resident advocate for firing D'Antoni, and I have had enough myself.
But when I watch these 2 multimillionaires pout, stupefy themselves, show disinterest, chuck, travel, rake up the offensive fouls, miss assignments and so forth, I am not going to hold full accountability for Mike. I'm just not.
I am not fooling myself, and I think, at this stage anyway, that anyone blaming the entirety of this farce on MD is fooling themselves in their own convenient way.
I want D'Antoni gone, and have done since last season.
I see what I see. I know what I know. And I know I'm not fooling myself.
I said the same thing, WTF is wrong with them?All of a sudden they forgot how to play the game, no, i think this coach has lost this team.It happens more than u think.OK so...
we'll believe that we acquired players that all of a sudden can't and won't play properly.