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Thread: Game 4: NY Knicks @ Sacramento 12/31/2011

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    Knicks have gone cold from outside, now we'll get to see if any adjustments get made.

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    Like the 3 pt shot much???

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    They're shooting too much threes... Bibby's made a couple of P&R with Chandler and it hasn't looked that bad, so why they're just shooting threes instead of playing more in the paint?

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    We're getting 3 happy, I like the ball movement but we're not attacking the basket like early on or forcing them into TO's and bad shots

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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    Let's assume the offensive aspect is a combination of luck, and bad defence on the side of the opponent. Are you denying there's a serious difference in terms of hustle and defence; Something the team could have demonstrated in the last two games.
    There's no denying the hustle defense but the 3 pt shots are masking things as well. In addition to sac's horrible defense.

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    I know were better with STAT talent wise, but even I have to admit things are alot smoother and we look more like a normal "team" w/o him. STAT just does some of the most peculiar things w/ the ball. I know he's a face-up 4, but dudes shooting 3's like Ray Allen, constantly turning into doubles and charging through dudes like he's LBJ w/ no steam. I may sound get crucified for saying it, but I think we should "maybe" look to try and fill out the "team" with a potential deal. We'd also probably be able to have more flexibility financially. I know it sounds ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. A deal like Josh Smith, Kirk Hinrich, and draft picks would be something I'd definitely consider.

    Davis/Hinrich/Bibby
    Fields/Douglas/Shumpert
    Melo/Balkman/Walker/Novak
    Smith/Jorts/Jeffries
    Chandler/Jordan

    That is a significantly deeper team w/ a definite defensive tone w/ Smith replacing STAT and we get a 6th man in Hinrich who allows TD to play off the ball. Also Hinrich would expire after this year and Smith the next. We'd have cap room after 2 years which is when the severe penalties kick in.

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    Douglas will not pass Melo the ball

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    Originally Posted by la2ny
    I know were better with STAT talent wise, but even I have to admit things are alot smoother and we look more like a normal "team" w/o him. STAT just does some of the most peculiar things w/ the ball. I know he's a face-up 4, but dudes shooting 3's like Ray Allen, constantly turning into doubles and charging through dudes like he's LBJ w/ no steam. I may sound get crucified for saying it, but I think we should "maybe" look to try and fill out the "team" with a potential deal. We'd also probably be able to have more flexibility financially. I know it sounds ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. A deal like Josh Smith, Kirk Hinrich, and draft picks would be something I'd definitely consider.

    Davis/Hinrich/Bibby
    Fields/Douglas/Shumpert
    Melo/Balkman/Walker/Novak
    Smith/Jorts/Jeffries
    Chandler/Jordan

    That is a significantly deeper team w/ a definite defensive tone w/ Smith replacing STAT and we get a 6th man in Hinrich who allows TD to play off the ball. Also Hinrich would expire after this year and Smith the next. We'd have cap room after 2 years which is when the severe penalties kick in.
    I agree with you that Amare does all that and it's really not working for him, but I think trading him might be extreme at this point. If he can get back to what he was doing last year with his mid-range J and the running jumper he does, then I'll be happy.

    He also needs to be involved with pick and rolls, which I've seen run quite successfully tonight.

    Also, looked like the Knicks just ran a play using triangle offense, I wouldn't be upset if there were more of that.

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    Originally Posted by la2ny
    I know were better with STAT talent wise, but even I have to admit things are alot smoother and we look more like a normal "team" w/o him. STAT just does some of the most peculiar things w/ the ball. I know he's a face-up 4, but dudes shooting 3's like Ray Allen, constantly turning into doubles and charging through dudes like he's LBJ w/ no steam. I may sound get crucified for saying it, but I think we should "maybe" look to try and fill out the "team" with a potential deal. We'd also probably be able to have more flexibility financially. I know it sounds ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. A deal like Josh Smith, Kirk Hinrich, and draft picks would be something I'd definitely consider.

    Davis/Hinrich/Bibby
    Fields/Douglas/Shumpert
    Melo/Balkman/Walker/Novak
    Smith/Jorts/Jeffries
    Chandler/Jordan

    That is a significantly deeper team w/ a definite defensive tone w/ Smith replacing STAT and we get a 6th man in Hinrich who allows TD to play off the ball. Also Hinrich would expire after this year and Smith the next. We'd have cap room after 2 years which is when the severe penalties kick in.
    I hear you but why do you care about Dolans money? As long as we can sign players it's not our concern.

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    Douglas is destroying my mind right now with his shot selection, he's turning into Smush Parker

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    I hear you but why do you care about Dolans money? As long as we can sign players it's not our concern.
    Screw Dolan I meant it in a way for Grunwald or whoever else will be GM to have flexibility to improve the team.

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    Repeat after me: Douglas is not a Point Guard.



    How the feck is he allowed to set the plays.

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    Bench "no pass" Douglas and put Lin into the game... it can't get worse at the point guard...

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    Wait, you mean teams can actually go cold from the 3pt line?????

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    Bench "no pass" Douglas and put Lin into the game... it can't get worse at the point guard...
    It's sad that even with our futility in the backcourt he only gives Lin garbage minutes. That's the dantoni way. SMH

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