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    why does balkman look so sad?

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    Originally Posted by joegti10
    why does balkman look so sad?
    because his ass has splinters, and his dreads smell like sh*t.

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    Angry Double-Technical on ronoranina....u are out this thread

    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    balkman sucks balls. he gets no minutes because his offensive game is trash. if he added the three ball to his game you could justify keeping him on the floor, especially on this team. when opponents double amare n melo and balkman gets the ball for an open look you almost know w certainty it will be a brick. No coach can afford to have a guy like that on the floor unless said guy rebounds and defends like Rodman/ Wallace. he hustles but that aint tangible enough.


    I shouldve known....out of all the Knuckle-heads in this KO forum u are the
    Leader of the bunch. writing bullshut after bullshut.
    Basketball & Football is not just about offense....only dum people like Dolan,
    Isiah, Dantoni, and ronoranina thinks that way.

    Balkman plays to his best skills/talents....he screens/picks/boxout/rebounds,
    and have accurate passing-skills.
    Dum-Dum Dantoni dont coach to players talents, or their co-existence with
    other teammates....if Dantoni knew anything about NBA basketball he would
    be coaching the Knicks according to the heavy schedual coming up, our bench
    players of "Bibby/Shump/Balkman/Jorts/and Jordan" wouldve been the starters
    in the 2nd quarter as our 2nd unit off the bench the first 15 games of the season.
    The 2nd-unit improvement each game in the 2nd-quarter would keep our
    STARTERS on their toes. Its not hard to see Jorts & Jordan are more offensive
    incline to scoring downlow with their back to the basket than Tyson & Stat
    (who is best for alley-oop passes only).

    After watching the great game of the Saints vs 49ers final minutes/seconds
    touchdown win....I turned on the Knicks vs OKC game, Stats refusal to play
    defense in the first two quarters of the game standing under the basket
    letting Harden & Westbrook get easy layups over him, everybody in my house
    started arguing that Dantoni shouldve been fired already, and Stat is a worst
    defensive player than no-defense Melo, which made me have to change the
    game to the Broncos Teboy getting a homemade ashwhippin from the Patriots.
    No one wanted to see any of the Knicks vs OKC 2nd half of the game, after
    OKC exposed how weak the Knicks were at every position on offense & defense
    during the first half of the game. Every NBA fan in my home rather watch the
    Patriots build a 28 point lead over the Denver Broncos.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman


    I shouldve known....out of all the Knuckle-heads in this KO forum u are the
    Leader of the bunch. writing bullshut after bullshut.
    Basketball & Football is not just about offense....only dum people like Dolan,
    Isiah, Dantoni, and ronoranina thinks that way.

    Balkman plays to his best skills/talents....he screens/picks/boxout/rebounds,
    and have accurate passing-skills.
    Dum-Dum Dantoni dont coach to players talents, or their co-existence with
    other teammates....if Dantoni knew anything about NBA basketball he would
    be coaching the Knicks according to the heavy schedual coming up, our bench
    players of "Bibby/Shump/Balkman/Jorts/and Jordan" wouldve been the starters
    in the 2nd quarter as our 2nd unit off the bench the first 15 games of the season.
    The 2nd-unit improvement each game in the 2nd-quarter would keep our
    STARTERS on their toes. Its not hard to see Jorts & Jordan are more offensive
    incline to scoring downlow with their back to the basket than Tyson & Stat
    (who is best for alley-oop passes only).

    After watching the great game of the Saints vs 49ers final minutes/seconds
    touchdown win....I turned on the Knicks vs OKC game, Stats refusal to play
    defense in the first two quarters of the game standing under the basket
    letting Harden & Westbrook get easy layups over him, everybody in my house
    started arguing that Dantoni shouldve been fired already, and Stat is a worst
    defensive player than no-defense Melo, which made me have to change the
    game to the Broncos Teboy getting a homemade ashwhippin from the Patriots.
    No one wanted to see any of the Knicks vs OKC 2nd half of the game, after
    OKC exposed how weak the Knicks were at every position on offense & defense
    during the first half of the game. Every NBA fan in my home rather watch the
    Patriots build a 28 point lead over the Denver Broncos.
    amazing post.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman


    I shouldve known....out of all the Knuckle-heads in this KO forum u are the
    Leader of the bunch. writing bullshut after bullshut.
    Basketball & Football is not just about offense....only dum people like Dolan,
    Isiah, Dantoni, and ronoranina thinks that way.

    Balkman plays to his best skills/talents....he screens/picks/boxout/rebounds,
    and have accurate passing-skills.
    Dum-Dum Dantoni dont coach to players talents, or their co-existence with
    other teammates....if Dantoni knew anything about NBA basketball he would
    be coaching the Knicks according to the heavy schedual coming up, our bench
    players of "Bibby/Shump/Balkman/Jorts/and Jordan" wouldve been the starters
    in the 2nd quarter as our 2nd unit off the bench the first 15 games of the season.
    The 2nd-unit improvement each game in the 2nd-quarter would keep our
    STARTERS on their toes. Its not hard to see Jorts & Jordan are more offensive
    incline to scoring downlow with their back to the basket than Tyson & Stat
    (who is best for alley-oop passes only).

    After watching the great game of the Saints vs 49ers final minutes/seconds
    touchdown win....I turned on the Knicks vs OKC game, Stats refusal to play
    defense in the first two quarters of the game standing under the basket
    letting Harden & Westbrook get easy layups over him, everybody in my house
    started arguing that Dantoni shouldve been fired already, and Stat is a worst
    defensive player than no-defense Melo, which made me have to change the
    game to the Broncos Teboy getting a homemade ashwhippin from the Patriots.
    No one wanted to see any of the Knicks vs OKC 2nd half of the game, after
    OKC exposed how weak the Knicks were at every position on offense & defense
    during the first half of the game. Every NBA fan in my home rather watch the
    Patriots build a 28 point lead over the Denver Broncos.
    No my dude.. I posted from sound, proven logic based on what I've seen works over the many years I've watched/played the game of basketball.

    You post out of your ass.

    I don't know where you get some of the nonsense you spew on here, same with the above.

    The ONLY time Balkman got a serious look was during the putrid Isiah thomas era when he was trying to justify the inane pick of this offensively inept, average rebounding, PF in SG's body.

    Why is this so hard to see/ understand???

    Balkman is horrible. He's right where I said he'd be now that JJ is back, riding the pine. Even before JJ was back he received very limited minutes.

    George Karl, a coach you might respect, even sat this guy consistently.

    (sigh) Balkman is career practice squad type. He could've been Shane Battier or Bruce Bowen, but he never worked on his shot (i actually agree w the premise of this thread).

    Again.. for the slow witted. YOU CAN NOT PLAY IN THIS LEAGUE AT HIS HEIGHT IF YOU HAVE NO JUMP SHOT! Hustle is not enough at 6'8''. The only way you'll get consistent minutes as a hustle type is if you're taller or just a beast, meaning you can also contribute in other aspects like presence in the paint with shot blocks, rebounds n the like on a prolific level..

    He doesn't do these things and he can't shoot so he sits.. and will continue to sit.

    Originally Posted by metrocard
    amazing post.
    You're better than that.

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    So are you saying Amar'e should benched too? He hasn't been doing much on either side of the court.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    So are you saying Amar'e should benched too? He hasn't been doing much on either side of the court.
    Dude....How can you even make that comparison and analogy?

    Balkman was drafted with bench written all over him, and he has been treated as such by every coach he's had. He's been given chances.

    Stoudemire is a year in year out allstar, last year included, playing on a max contract.

    When Amare sucks, you're forced to live with it. Because of his pedigree, the high level he can unquestionably play at, and his contract.

    Balkman has been given chances. He has shown what he can offer to the league. And he practically can't even be given away, even on a meager contract.

    He's a stand out D leaguer, fringe bench player on a good team. The burden is on him to show superior skills that he hasn't shown to date.

    If he gets minutes out of necessity so be it. And I hope he plays like Gerald Wallace and turns his career around.

    But he's just not that skilled. And he ain't Fariedesque either. How can this be argued?

    edit -- especially when offense, and smart offensive decision-making and flow is our biggest problem to date.
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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    How can this be argued?
    Because DERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERPDERP

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Dude....How can you even make that comparison and analogy?

    Balkman was drafted with bench written all over him, and he has been treated as such by every coach he's had. He's been given chances.

    Stoudemire is a year in year out allstar, last year included, playing on a max contract.

    When Amare sucks, you're forced to live with it. Because of his pedigree, the high level he can unquestionably play at, and his contract.

    Balkman has been given chances. He has shown what he can offer to the league. And he practically can't even be given away, even on a meager contract.

    He's a stand out D leaguer, fringe bench player on a good team. The burden is on him to show superior skills that he hasn't shown to date.

    If he gets minutes out of necessity so be it. And I hope he plays like Gerald Wallace and turns his career around.

    But he's just not that skilled. And he ain't Fariedesque either. How can this be argued?

    edit -- especially when offense, and smart offensive decision-making and flow is our biggest problem to date.
    But has Amar'e done much? Balkman gives a lot of effort. Have you noticed him in the pre-season and the time he got in the regular season? Even in garbage time a player couldn't have done the rebounding, catching, and finishing he did without the effort he had.

    He's not better than Amar'e, but don't deny Amar'e has been playing bad and Balkman gives effort. So WHAT if he hasn't been in a rotation the last few years? Chris Duhon is part of a rotation and does NOTHING.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    But has Amar'e done much? Balkman gives a lot of effort. Have you noticed him in the pre-season and the time he got in the regular season? Even in garbage time a player couldn't have done the rebounding, catching, and finishing he did without the effort he had.

    He's not better than Amar'e, but don't deny Amar'e has been playing bad and Balkman gives effort. So WHAT if he hasn't been in a rotation the last few years? Chris Duhon is part of a rotation and does NOTHING.
    Dude seriously.. Stop arguing this. That was a horrible comparison you made. It''s senseless for you to keep going at this point.

    It's just like Isayuughh said. You live w Amare looking clueless on the defensive end most times because of what he gives you on offense (20-25 ppg nightly). And you play him while he's in a funk because he's got to work thru it. It's worth it. Simple.

    See if you would have said give him some of Fields minutes i could see that. That would make SOME basketball sense, cause Fields can't throw it in the ocean right now. So we wouldn't be missing much and we'd get the other things Balkman brings. But if you think about it Balkman doesn't hustle or rebound that much better than Fields. Fields is basically a less athletic version of Balkman, with a jumpshot (that seems to have left him completely) and more savvy.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Dude seriously.. Stop arguing this. That was a horrible comparison you made. It''s senseless for you to keep going at this point.

    It's just like Isayuughh said. You live w Amare looking clueless on the defensive end most times because of what he gives you on offense (20-25 ppg nightly). And you play him while he's in a funk because he's got to work thru it. It's worth it. Simple.

    See if you would have said give him some of Fields minutes i could see that. That would make SOME basketball sense, cause Fields can't throw it in the ocean right now. So we wouldn't be missing much and we'd get the other things Balkman brings. But if you think about it Balkman doesn't hustle or rebound that much better than Fields. Fields is basically a less athletic version of Balkman, with a jumpshot (that seems to have left him completely) and more savvy.
    Honestly I don't know how Amar'e has been getting the points he has been getting, because he's been bad on that side too.

    In a world where high plaid stars didn't whine and cause trouble, Amar'e would be benched to teach him a lesson. Sadly though, that's not the case, so the next best scenario is to work through it. If he was just playing bad, then I'd be ok with him playing through it, but I hate the lack of effort he's been giving on both sides of the floor.

    This is why I made the comparison. Amar'e has A LOT more ability than Balkman, everybody knows this, the percent of Amar'e's effort should be the same as the amount his contract is worth, which is the percentage everybody should give no matter what they make.

    Yes, Balkman should be getting more minutes than Fields. Balkman is like Chandler (don't get upset that I made another comparison, you know what I mean by this), defense, rebounding, and shots close to the basket.

    Speaking of hustle players not in the rotation, I just watched Scalabrine in the last few minutes of the Bulls/Suns game. The fans kept wanting him to shoot, but he kept making brilliant passes lol, and got cheered for them.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    Honestly I don't know how Amar'e has been getting the points he has been getting, because he's been bad on that side too.

    In a world where high plaid stars didn't whine and cause trouble, Amar'e would be benched to teach him a lesson. Sadly though, that's not the case, so the next best scenario is to work through it. If he was just playing bad, then I'd be ok with him playing through it, but I hate the lack of effort he's been giving on both sides of the floor.

    This is why I made the comparison. Amar'e has A LOT more ability than Balkman, everybody knows this, the percent of Amar'e's effort should be the same as the amount his contract is worth, which is the percentage everybody should give no matter what they make.

    Yes, Balkman should be getting more minutes than Fields. Balkman is like Chandler (don't get upset that I made another comparison, you know what I mean by this), defense, rebounding, and shots close to the basket.

    Speaking of hustle players not in the rotation, I just watched Scalabrine in the last few minutes of the Bulls/Suns game. The fans kept wanting him to shoot, but he kept making brilliant passes lol, and got cheered for them.
    Re bolded: Exactly cept Chandla's 7'1''. So the presence is MUCH different.

    Listen if Balkman was 6'11'' or 7' with his ability and hustle he'd be getting minutes. I think you could easily justify giving him JJ's minutes if that were the case, but it just isn't.. So he's stays gettin bench splinters as Clyde said lol.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    No my dude.. I posted from sound, proven logic based on what I've seen works over the many years I've watched/played the game of basketball.

    You post out of your ass.

    I don't know where you get some of the nonsense you spew on here, same with the above.

    The ONLY time Balkman got a serious look was during the putrid Isiah thomas era when he was trying to justify the inane pick of this offensively inept, average rebounding, PF in SG's body.

    Why is this so hard to see/ understand???

    Balkman is horrible. He's right where I said he'd be now that JJ is back, riding the pine. Even before JJ was back he received very limited minutes.

    George Karl, a coach you might respect, even sat this guy consistently.

    (sigh) Balkman is career practice squad type. He could've been Shane Battier or Bruce Bowen, but he never worked on his shot (i actually agree w the premise of this thread).

    Again.. for the slow witted. YOU CAN NOT PLAY IN THIS LEAGUE AT HIS HEIGHT IF YOU HAVE NO JUMP SHOT! Hustle is not enough at 6'8''. The only way you'll get consistent minutes as a hustle type is if you're taller or just a beast, meaning you can also contribute in other aspects like presence in the paint with shot blocks, rebounds n the like on a prolific level..

    He doesn't do these things and he can't shoot so he sits.. and will continue to sit.

    I never had any respect for Coach Karl in Seattle, Milluakie, or Denver.
    All his Star players (Payton, Ray Allen, Cassel, Melo, ect.) asked to be traded.

    u are lost....u forgot what happen when Melo got injured and " a no- playoff-
    strategy coach Karl" had to give Balkman playingtime....5 straight wins from
    Billups/JRSmith/Balkman/K.Mart/Nene.

    Coach Karl was never going to make it pass the first round without Billups
    defensive-team-leadership.
    Do u really think K.Mart, JR.Smith, W.Chandler, and Felton was happy with
    coach Karl no-strategy in the postseason games? losing to one of his ex-
    teammates who is a headcoach now McMillian.
    The 4-players are MIA in Denver this season.

    It was clear and obvious the Knicks trading Balkman was a coach to
    coach trade, two weeks after Camby was traded to the Clippers.
    Dantoni didnt like Balkman calling all the shots to the players in the summer
    league game yelling at Gallo for 3 quarters. When Gallo played injured,
    Balkman played injured too. A week after the summer league game Balkman
    was traded for two Denver players we buy-out two weeks later.

    Balkman's "tazman-hustle" off the bench as a rookie out played Jefferies on
    both sides of the court. Rookie Balkman & 2nd season David Lee made
    the Isiah's three 6.11 starters take a backseat on the bench that season.

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    Angry Dont Hate the Player....FIRE Dantoni

    The Knicks sending Jerome Jordan down to the D.League is
    insane!

    The Knicks had a 6-bigmen rotation to work with from the start of this 2011-12 season.
    C-Tyson & Jordan
    PF-Stat & Jorts
    SF-Melo & Balkman

    We were suppose to see the Knicks use "THREE" bigmen lineups:
    Three dangerous frontcourt weapons
    1) Jordan/Stat/Balkman
    2) Tyson/Jorts/Melo
    3) Tyson/Stat/Melo

    All 6 of our bigmen were suppose to be working-out together to show
    domination in the paint by boxing-out together, creating double screens,
    and always creating pick n rolls, give n go, for our backcourt with Melo/Stat.

    The thought of headcoach Jax, or Sloan, or Pop, or Carlisle, Thib, or Scott
    having our 6-bigmen in a rotation our record at best would be 12-1 at worst
    10-3 right now (not 6-7).

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    Angry Dont Hate the Player....FIRE Dantoni

    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Re bolded: Exactly cept Chandla's 7'1''. So the presence is MUCH different.

    Listen if Balkman was 6'11'' or 7' with his ability and hustle he'd be getting minutes. I think you could easily justify giving him JJ's minutes if that were the case, but it just isn't.. So he's stays gettin bench splinters as Clyde said lol.

    u and Clyde are lost....Clyde always got wide screens/picks from Reed,
    Debush, and Jax to take his open jumpshot.

    Balkman is always creating a screen or pick for his teammates which
    Stat/Melo/Jorts dont do. Balkman/Fields are the only two Knicks boxing-
    out in the paint for offense or defensive rebound, which Tyson, Stat, Melo,
    and Jorts are not doing. Which is why the Knicks have a 6-7 record after only
    playing two contender teams vs eleven mediocre teams.

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