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    Didn't get a chance to watch the game. What the hell happened to the Knicks?

    They played relatively well against the Sixers the night before...were they just tired?

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    Shumpert: he's a very talented young player, but there is something what I've been saying since his first game for the Knicks: he's a chucker with a horrible shot selection. Sometimes his shots are falling and nobody is complaining, but sometimes he's shooting 25%, there is one thing that Knicks hater Reggie Miller said and was true: if you don't hit your long shots, why do you shoot them?
    Iman should be working on his shooting, he isn't Kobe, and he has to realize that there are shots only Kobe could hit.
    Besides, he's got overconfident what leads to being turnover prone, he caused 10 turnovers in his last two games and as we all know some of them were really dumb. He isn't even close to Rondo and our transition defense is nooby, every lost possession can lead to an easy bucket. We possibly allowed around 20 points because of his turnovers against Philly and Memphis.

    Anthony: he can't win a game all by himself and the longer he'll be shooting his jump shots off the isolation the more defenders will know how to stop him. Another thing: he ignores the coaching staff and his teammates and he gets into conflicts on the court. Sometimes he's doing like a kid in a sanbox, he never listens to his parents and if he can't build his own sand house he starts throwing sand at other kids. Grow up Carmelo, because if we convince Phil to coach the Knicks you'll earn your warming spot on the bench.

    Amare: every single time Amare has to face an above average center/forward he's not playing confident, I can bet a couple of bucks his numbers will be limited against the Magic, Wolves or Nuggets.

    Fields: do I really need to say anything?

    Chandler: the only good guy on this team, he's doing his job orchestrating defense and grabbing boards. I know he probably feels disappointed, but I'm glad he's here and tries to make our D work.


    But, all the things I noticed come down to coaching, D'Antoni should be making adjustments, should make this whole thing work. But he doesn't, repeating "let's go, make your shots, let's go" doesn't improve this team.

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    The worst part is Melo played 16 less minutes than he usually plays went out with a quarter and a half to go in the game yet still led us in scoring. Thats a shame

    The thing is we want perfection so I'm going to stop being impatient and let the process run its course by the All-Star break I'll have a true opinion on what we look like

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    You know what I hate most about the D'Antoni era?

    Every time we go a little above 0.500 we start losing games and go back to 0.500 or a little under. We NEVER EVER constantly stay at 0.600 or above 0.600. This freaking kills me!
    Our ambition is not to be a 0.500 team for the next 3 years.....we want to be a 0.620-0.660 win percentage team and constantly dominate the Atlantic Division.

    Unbelievable, if Melo can't play the next few games expect a painful losing streak.

    These Knicks are like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde under D'Antoni. A very good performance against Philly (especially on the so-important defensive end) is followed by complete and utter bull**** at Memphis.
    It has always been this way since Mike from Pringles took over as HC.

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    One of the commentators hit the nail on the head when he said that the reason D'Antoni was so successful in Phoenix was because he had great shooters in joe johnson, Nash, barbosa, diaw, Richardson & stat. We don't have competent shooters on our current roster & it's despicable. All we have are 3 players who consume 90% of the cap, along with 10 other guys who are average players with zero spark.

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    Originally Posted by diddy_nyc
    One of the commentators hit the nail on the head when he said that the reason D'Antoni was so successful in Phoenix was because he had great shooters in joe johnson, Nash, barbosa, diaw, Richardson & stat. We don't have competent shooters on our current roster & it's despicable. All we have are 3 players who consume 90% of the cap, along with 10 other guys who are average players with zero spark.

    What the commentator left out was "Shawn Marion" 40+ minutes per game
    under Dantoni tour in Phoenix, being the most minute played player each
    season behind Kobe Bryant. Marion made sure every teammate was in the
    right position on offense/defense, plus Marion & Nash orchestated who can
    shoot and who cant shoot if teammates were hot or cold from the peremeter.
    That is why Q.Richardson was booted-out of the Suns organization after one
    season. The Suns gave away a first round draft pick (Nate) to trade Q.Richardson.

    Dantoni is the worst coach in the NBA to develope college-players into NBA players.
    Bigmen are allowed to dribble the ball, and everyone has the greenlight to shoot 3-balls. WTF!
    What do the Knicks players & coaches do in practice?
    Shump rookie season should be strickly on getting his passing-skills up to par
    with the average NBA guard. We Shump Fans should be yelling halfway
    through the season for Shump to shoot the ball more while averaging 5+ assist
    per game. Shump never took 20 shots in college WTF is going on?
    Shump is not Kobe or D.Rose....Shump should be working-hard to tandem up
    with one of the Knicks guards, is Shump to blind to notice the "iso" play is
    not working with our fowards (Stat & Melo) who refuse to play as a tandem.

    The game commentators were dogging the Knicks by indirectly speaking on
    Dantoni letting rookie Shump perform as an "iso" player.
    Shump was clueless of his oponents....Conley, Allen, Mayo, and rookie Shelby.

    Philly won 5 games in 7 days....we Knicks get blown-out at the end of back to back game.
    Who is going to be the leader of the Atlantic Division?
    We have to FIRE-Dantoni....so we can produce a few design-plays in our halfcourt offense,
    plus produce a basic system where all 5 players run back on defense to defend a team,
    rather than this sick man to man defense where our bigmen walk up the court alongside
    of the player they are defending. Sick coaching!

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    Like Forrest Gump said "The Knicks are like a box of chocolates you never know what your going to get".

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    WTF happened?

    I don't think I'll bother watching this on ILP.

    Let me guess:

    The offense was like watching statues **** each other?

    Lack of boxing out?

    Fumbled assignments, dribbles, communication, interior presence defensively?

    And - how many f'ing times do I have to say it - no high % set plays for our stars in an attempt to muster some continuity and momentum.

    Am I near the mark?

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    Originally Posted by Crazy⑧s
    WTF happened?

    I don't think I'll bother watching this on ILP.

    Let me guess:

    The offense was like watching statues **** each other?

    Lack of boxing out?

    Fumbled assignments, dribbles, communication, interior presence defensively?

    And - how many f'ing times do I have to say it - no high % set plays for our stars in an attempt to muster some continuity and momentum.

    Am I near the mark?
    Lets just say we were bricking everything and Melo had to leave the game early due to a sprained ankle. Oh yeah and Shumpert went 5 for 20 and Amare only had 6 points.

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    Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
    But, all the things I noticed come down to coaching, D'Antoni should be making adjustments, should make this whole thing work. But he doesn't, repeating "let's go, make your shots, let's go" doesn't improve this team.
    Let's just all agree that Antoni is more of a motivational speaker than an NBA coach. A subpar speaker at that.

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    Originally Posted by diddy_nyc
    One of the commentators hit the nail on the head when he said that the reason D'Antoni was so successful in Phoenix was because he had great shooters in joe johnson, Nash, barbosa, diaw, Richardson & stat. We don't have competent shooters on our current roster & it's despicable. All we have are 3 players who consume 90% of the cap, along with 10 other guys who are average players with zero spark.
    That was Reggie and Fratello. It was a good point because they were saying that with the cast he had in PHX, Antoni could run his system with no problem but now he's trying to do too much with guys who have different skill sets and he's not adjusting. Having the 3 ball as your main weapon is no longer condusive when you lack 3 pt shooters. ADJUST!

    It seems every new player we get ends up with a career high in 3pt attempts.

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    Seriously. D'Antoni's system works when you have 6 players on your roster that are hitting the 3-ball at 35% or higher.

    Wed don't. Not a chance in hell.

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    If you coach 12 year olds and they take the most 3 pointers in the league with one of the worst shooting percentages you would tell them to STOP SHOOTING 3'S.....

    Shumpert takes another 3 he should be shot....


    FIRE DANTONIO AGAIN.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Seriously. D'Antoni's system works when you have 6 players on your roster that are hitting the 3-ball at 35% or higher.

    Wed don't. Not a chance in hell.
    D'Antoni's system doesn't work. He had excellent individual defenders in Pheonix, but so much was placed on offense that they couldn't get past that hump. If you gave me ridiculous talent, I could make something out of that team, too.

    D'Antoni is by far the most overrated coach in the NBA. Bottom five in coaching, for certain.

    He does not know how to adjust with his team. Ridiculous. This game was an embarrassment. One of the announcers said it in the Philly game -- iso'ing Melo for 4 plays in a row is just not smart coaching... especially when he misses all four shots. Philly, on the third game of back to back to back's and without Spencer Hawes got back into the game because of poor coaching decisions and an unwillingness to tell Melo to chill with the ISO plays.

    We saw further ineptitude the next night with the Grizzlies. Just pathetic. I guarantee they play better without Melo, because they will be forced to share the ball.

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