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Thread: Even D'antoni says WE ARE RIGHT!

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    Originally Posted by jzero29
    Jorts... I mostly agree with you. Jorts should work the rim and develope standard big man skills. However, there is some appeal to a guy Jorts size being an outside threat, it seems to be a small trend in the game. Take Dirk, bogut and barniani. They shoot 3's Sometimes bringing their Tall defensive counter part out of the paint, opening up the defense for a penetration. That said, none of them soley hang on ther perimeter. All of them have inside outside skills. They post and crash the boards. Occasionally clearing out the paint and possibly taking a 3. Jorts has to learn to incorpurate both. He plays hard and is a decent defender.

    Bottom line, I agree, D'Antoni's system is flawed. It can work in the perfect storm. With a master making decisions. Like how bruce lee, made several forms of martial arts flow into one fluid form. Not set ridgid style. The Theory is solid, but hard to execute if you are not a master at each first.
    The appeal of the school yard flow, isn't ignoring the fundamentals. As you said, you can't remove them from the sport. The school yard flow is changing the play from a pick & roll to a give & go seamlessly. Changing from popping of a screen for a shot, to changing to hit a cutter for a layup.To go from one fundamental to the next fluidly. To not demand a strict structure unbending structure. like we are running the pick and roll and nothing else this next play. A master/creator like steve nash does this. A master like Peyton manning changes the play to fit the defense. Who is the creator on the knicks? Several pg performed sub par.
    Well said. Bringing your man out at certain points has its advantges. But shouldn't be done as a priority, nor supersede fundamental big man play.

    With the B'Way bigs, you don't need a "master" pg. Just a coac who stresses fundamentally sound ball.

    When Douglas or an Anthony Randolph fails... its because they are trying to fit into a system that goes aginst what hey were taught.

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman

    Perfectly said....having a talented team but clueless on coaching the teams
    strength....everyone should be aware of Melo/Stat/and Tyson Chandler's
    best talents, it should be a capital-crime to watch how these star-players
    talents are being repeatedly miss-used game after game with EXCUSES.

    Dantoni's departure is long over due
    Yes sir.

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Dantoni has been coaching bad habits to all our young players....especially
    Jorts who remind me of a young "Horry", who strong inside game made all his
    oponents happy when they seen Horry on the peremeter not given them hell
    in the paint. Kentucky NCAA playoffs Jorts raised all kind of hell in the paint
    to make him an early 2nd round draft pick.
    This season Melo has a lot of reasons to be upset with Jorts, there were so
    many times in games where Jorts bigbody couldve screen or pick off Melo's
    defender for Melo to have an open shot, but Jorts ran to the 3-ball line
    looking for Melo to pass him the ball.
    I'm glad someone noticed this. He ruins players fundamentals.

    If he were smart... he'd fall back and let the professionals do what they know and stop trying to convince us his way is best. We and the players know better.

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    Flip Saunders just was fired. I would gladly take him over D'Antoni. He at least did well twice with Minnesota and Detroit

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    Actually when i think of it this makes sense.

    D'Antoni goes to the Wizard so he can coach the point guard he wants.
    Flip goes here and maximizes the use of our big men.

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    Originally Posted by clumsy
    Actually when i think of it this makes sense.

    D'Antoni goes to the Wizard so he can coach the point guard he wants.
    Flip goes here and maximizes the use of our big men.
    I would take Sauders in the flip of a second over Dumbtoni. Just give him a one year deal and see how he does. Or just as good, just give the job to Woodson. Why not?

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