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    Default Would Davis, Smith & Martin help? Remaining Schedule

    DET
    CHI
    @BOS
    NJ
    UTAH
    @WAS
    LAK
    @MIN
    @TOR
    SAC
    NO
    DAL
    NJ
    ATL
    @MIA

    ALL STAR BREAK

    CLE
    @BOS
    @DAL
    @SA
    @MIL
    PHI
    @CHI
    POR
    IND
    @IND
    TOR
    @PHI
    @TOR
    DET
    MIL
    ORL
    @ATL
    CLE

    APRIL (Home stretch... 13 games to go)

    @IND
    @ORL
    CHI
    @CHI
    @MIL
    WAS
    MIA
    BOS
    @NJ
    @CLE
    @ATL
    LAC
    @CHA

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    So here we are. Losers of 9 of our last 10 games. Carmelo hurting, Amar'e lost in the shuffle, TC can't get a pass, we have the worst starting G back court in NBA history, we chuck 30+ threes a game while committing about 20 unforced turnovers each contest, our coach looks apathetic.. gulp (pause for a breath)... Jared Jeffries is still running around, the trade rumors swirl, there are whispers of coaching changes, Isaiah Thomas is out to dinner with upper management, Time Warner still wont broadcast this mess, & Pitchers & Cacthers are soon to report!

    We play tomorrow, get a day off, & then comes the daunting 1-2-3 (back-to-back-to-back) three games in three nights. Yikes! And what makes this even tougher, we play the worst of the 3 teams (Nets) on the 3rd night of this gauntlet. Could we go 0-3?

    Are we at rock bottom? Or, are we just waiting for the foreman to bring down the jackhammer? WHISTLE BLOWS & I HEAR A SCREAM, WILMA!

    We have 15 games before the All Star break. I'm thinking 10-5 would be a miracle. 8-7 might even be a long shot. At 7-12, could we be looking at the turning point or our we facing the abyss?

    We shall see how we respond... but with this offense, this coach, these 2 "super" stars, our lack of even a viable college DIV-1 PG, no shooters, lazy defense, and Mr. Dolan... Is there any hope?

    I'm looking at March... If we add Baron Davis, along with JR Smith &/or Kenyon Martin... Does this mean anything?

    I think if we can hold the line... keep within striking distance of the playoffs (how sad is it we're praying for the 8th seed; so much for wanting a top-4 seeding). Anyway, I think we match up well against MIA.

    Davis
    Smith
    Anthony
    Amare
    Chandler

    Martin, Shumpert, Jeffries, Harrellson, Walker, Douglas


    Does this do anything for you? Pump your nag?

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    I think the knicks match up well with MIA as well simply because Tyson Chandler pretty much alone gives that whole team issues. If any or all of the players you mention join the knicks with about 75% of their skill set intact it would help. D'antoni will be fired unless he goes 2-2 over the next 4 games. Normally I would say its not a question but its looking like he lost the team more and more so who knows if they show up to buy him some time.

    On the flipside if the Knicks fall to the bottom of the division and decide to fire the coach, do they then decide to tank the season for a top 5 pick?

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    On the flipside if the Knicks fall to the bottom of the division and decide to fire the coach, do they then decide to tank the season for a top 5 pick?

    ...Knicks dont have their first rounder this year bro...Traded it away just like all the others...

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    Our first round pick is in Houston, so it doesn't make sense to tank this season...

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    Nice post...

    I'll tell you what, if we ever get out of this ultra funky play and bounce back with Boom Dizzle..... JR Smith and Kenyon Martin would be absolutely huge.

    Not only are they solid role players, but having their fresh legs by the month of March, right on time for the playoffs (if we ever get in) after a greuling 66 game season. They could potentially come in as our biggest advantage in the playoffs.

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    Yes. It looks like a pretty functional lineup. I expect big things. Both because of the talent added on an individual level, and the ramifications upon improving Amare and Melo as players (which will be a profound effect), and on the ability to run a coherent, extremely effective offense.

    Why would anyone expect Amare and Melo to actually look good playing together in year 1, when every single problem they obviously have as

    individual players and as teammates

    is magnified to the most absurd extent by having the weakest and rawest backcourt and PointGuard position in the NBA.

    Why would anyone honestly to look good having the weakest and rawest backcourt in the NBA?

    Unless one or more of your frontcourt players are elite ballhandlers, playmakers, passers in their own right -- Lebron, eg, even Gallo types -- you are not going to be a good, well-run team.

    And Amare and Melo are horrible passers and people you'd look to facilitate an offense through. Couldn't be worse for these purposes.

    How the **** do people think offenses are run? Let alone sophisticated ones?

    It actually wouldn't truly matter if we replaced Melo with Howard either (though it'd obv help). We still wouldn't be anything special.

    You don't put on a condom unless you wanna ****.

    You don't step into a shortened NBA season and expect to win without putting a ****ing point guard on your team to run it.
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    Nice OP,mafra. Very nice.

    It's a big question, and at this horrible stage, something that irks a little enthusiasm, too.

    To answer all your questions with questions, I need to ask the following:

    I know Smith and Martin become available in March, but when in March? Early, mid, late?

    If we add them - Smith and Martin - will there be enough time for them to readjust and settle in? Waivers, setting up both themselves and their families in new living situations, finding a niche amongst their peers in NY, handling the media, adjusting to Mike's system [much harder for K-Mart than Smith], the expectation of being key ingredients to a wavering team???

    The list is as long as our losing streak.

    And what about their off-court repute? These are 2 of the NBA's worst attitudes, or so it's read.

    Seems like a very long shot. Longer than the long shots that ruin this team's hopes at any sort of positive recognition.


    Originally Posted by iSaYughh

    You don't put on a condom unless you wanna ****.

    You don't step into a shortened NBA season and expect without putting a ****ing point guard on your team to run it.


    Nice analogy, my friend.

    It is a lot to ask with our play at the point. 2 chuckers that chuck and suck.

    Shump has already shown that he is not capable, at this stage, of being a reliable combo guard.

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    Both JR and KMart would help. JR with that 3 pt shot and KMart with toughness and a post-game.

    Chinese basketball playoffs start Feb. 22 and the last game of the finals is March 30. If any of these guys are on playoff teams, I don't see their teams letting them go until they're eliminated.

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    Default Fiction can be fun, but I find the reference section a little more enlightening.

    The players are available as soon as their Chinese teams are out of contention.

    Just one question , with $$$ being a key factor with these guys going to China you think they are going to line up to play for NY for vet min. If we are lucky ( real lucky ) we are able to sign KMart or Smith to the 2.5 min. The only way that happens is if we are still in it ( championship ) contention. If we are not you will see the Bulls , Heat , or another team with actual playoff contention swoop in and sign these two " hot commodities "


    This means zero I know but look at this :
    Clippers guard Chauncey Billups said he has reached out to Martin, a former teammate of his in Denver, about joining him in L.A.
    Asked by the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] how Martin responded, Billups said with a smile, "I'll let him tell y'all that.”

    Read more: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    I can pretty much Bet he told K MART how much of a joke are Coach and team are. They probally had a good laugh or two regarding the Knicks.
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    Originally Posted by Knicks4Life_1985
    The players are available as soon as their Chinese teams are out of contention.

    Just one question , with $$$ being a key factor with these guys going to China you think they are going to line up to play for NY for vet min. If we are lucky ( real lucky ) we are able to sign KMart or Smith to the 2.5 min. The only way that happens is if we are still in it ( championship ) contention. If we are not you will see the Bulls , Heat , or another team with actual playoff contention swoop in and sign these two " hot commodities "
    Amen brother!

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