did no one watch the bulls game? when players were playing the pick and roll with amare look where it got him stat starts the game with a starting rookie shooting guard playing the point then starts the second with TD....T effing D. wheres the point guard play to get him the ball in the paint... tyson chandler gets alot of his points through lobs but amare isnt playing center anymore he cant be the guy catching it underneath thats now tysons job he needs someone to run the p and r with him on a nightly basis hopefully d;antoni let lin practice that with chandler and amare in practice cause looking at the nets game lin runs the pick and roll effectively
We need to trade him ASAP!
He's holding the team back big time with his lackluster play!
Him and Melo are cancers to our success.
No surprise we've played our best game of the season, best game in years with both of these con artists out.
Getting rid of Stoudemire would be the best day in recent Knicks history.
Try to acquire a Kevin Love and we're good to go.
Bro, you're the most negative user on this board now... seriously, you used to write meaningful posts and right now you're just spreading hate on everyone within the Knicks organization. You've become pre Lin Knicks of this forum - unwatchable/unreadable.
We are not gonna get rid of Melo or Amare, Amare is always gonna be a matador defender but if he at least puts the effort in that will be enough more times than not. Have we seen that effort much lately? Hell no but I'm glad our stars are getting plenty of rest right now.
Hopefully in practice they are gelling up with Lin now I can't wait to see what the Knicks will look like when our offense finally has some cohesion to it. I don't think Lin is our saviour but as a 20-25mpg PG he seems solid, he just needs to learn to shoot a jumper.
This goes a little too far. He's not quite at KT level shabiness yet. Slow down.
I agree w the premise of the thread and I think Amare has lost 1/2 a step, some due to weight/muscle gain, some to due to age. I said a week or so ago that I'd like to deal him if possible, as I'd love for this team to be out from under his hefty contract.
But I think he's been affected negatively by having Melo jack up 25-30 shots a night and not having a true point to get him the rock.
To say he's like Kurt Thomas.... no not close. He's still pretty athletic. He's just not able to overpower guys as easily as in the past.
Amare started off the year throwing up three point shots. He stopped attacking the hoop and getting the ball down low. He stopped being aggressive on offensive rebounds like he was against the Pistons when the KNicks first beat them by 30 points.
During that game Amare was flying towards the hoop to get offensive rebounds and became a force.
This is coaching Metro. You need atleast 2 players to consistently go for the offensive rebound. THe problem is MIke D's system is to put up a shot, then runback quickly to defend against the fast break. Most of the time our whole team is back before anyone even thinks about going for an offensive rebound. Thank god we have Tyson Chandler, and Jeffries are the only ones going for offensive rebounds because it's their game. AMare has to adjust his game, the coach has to help him do this and point it out that he has to be aggressive on the boards.
Once Lin starts feeding Amare, creating space, Amare will throw it down more and gain confidence. THen his outside shot will be more consistent since guys will be guarding Amare loosely since they are worried about the pick and roll. BUt AMare has to drive more when he runs that iso play.
AMare has to be coached.
Amare hasn't shown me any signs that he's athletic. He's been extremely robotic and stiff this season.
Honestly i think kurt Thomas is better then Amare at this point. Atari's old and washed up, the only player i can think of thats aged worse then him is Greg Oden. Last year proved hes no longer durable enough to even hold up for a full season. Shortly before we got Melo Amare became Asofte Stoudemire. This year, we've seen him intentionally get himself into foul trouble so he can get extra rest. This guys a disgrace to the game of basketball, its time to waive him
One way or another, Atari's done once Jorts gets back. Harrelson was about to take Amarknee's starting job right before he got hurt.