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    Default Where in the world and when in time is Amare going 2 be traded!?: Part 1 Golden State

    Ok so this is part 1 of a new series im doing where we will explore realistic options what we can do with the contract of a Mr.Amare Stoudemire. Not saying he should be traded, not saying any of these deals will happen. This is all "What if" scenarios here.

    Now, what if we needed to move Amare, he didn't gell with us, Phil Jackson doesnt want him here, He said "its me or Melo", whatever its hypothetical.

    Where would we send him? what would we want in return? What would we need in return? Lets explore.

    The Golden State Warriors are an up and coming team. They have a young talented PG in Stephen Curry, Valuable draft picks, a double double machine in David Lee, a scoring combo guard in Monta Ellis, a young 3 point specialist in Klay Thompson, and a pretty decent bench.

    You may be thinking "Then why would they want to blow uo their team for an aging Power Forward with Knee problems KnicksWillRiseAgain?!?! You dumbass!!!". Look guys once again all hypothetical but if the Warriors were to make a trade it would be for a star they can team with Stephen Curry. David Lee is nice, but Amare could really take them to the next level.

    So my idea is this: we send them Amare and Toney Douglas, they send us Monta Ellis, and David Lee. giving us a lineup of

    PG: Monta Ellis
    SG: Iman Shumpert
    SF: Carmelo Anthony
    PF: David Lee
    C: Tyson Chandler

    Now you guys are thinking "WOAH hold on there Monta is a ball hog and David Lee plays no defense!". While Monta may have a bit of a reputation as a ball hog, he has shown he can put up 20 points and 8 assists if he puts his mind to it, and under a no nonsense coach like Phil Jackson or Mike Woodson, I think he would be pushed in that direction. As far as David Lee goes, Tyson Chandler would cover up for his D and allow him to focus on rebounding and scoring.

    As for the Warriors this gives them an amazing pick and roll threat, and a core of Amare and Stephen Curry to build around. The Pick and roll will also make Klay Thompson and Dorrel Wright better scorers with all the open 3s they will be getting from all the defense the P&R draws. This gives Golden State a line-up of

    Stephen Curry
    Klay Thompson
    Dorrel Wright
    Amare Stoudemire
    Andris Biedrens

    The Knicks come out with 2 scoring threats, Improved spacing, improved rebounding, and they can always flip Monta and Tyson Chandler for a star like Dwight Howard.

    The Warriors come out with an All Star PF and young PG combo to build around, and become a younger version of the Suns, and are a few little pieces away from becoming a playoff team.

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    this is perfect. gsw has the pg to bring amare back to an elite level and dlee can facilitate making up for our lack of pg.

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    I was coming into this ready to read a big block of sh1t just because of some of the other trade ideas i've seen thrown around before I joined, but this is one of the best yet, so good that I don't know if the Warriors would necessarily go for it due to Douglas is on a huge downturn, maybe Douglas can get super hot again and we can move him on the top of one of his streaks.

    The only bad thing I see about this right now for the Knicks is the lack of chemistry, what little we're starting to get now would be completely destroyed. Really risky, but we're almost to the point where we need to take a huge risk or we'll miss the playoffs for sure.

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    why would GS want Amare"s under insured contract over Lee's....

    also I think GS could do better trading with another team.

    I would love the trade but do not see as to why GS would do it.

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    Originally Posted by Purch.
    I was coming into this ready to read a big block of sh1t just because of some of the other trade ideas i've seen thrown around before I joined, but this is one of the best yet, so good that I don't know if the Warriors would necessarily go for it due to Douglas is on a huge downturn, maybe Douglas can get super hot again and we can move him on the top of one of his streaks.

    The only bad thing I see about this right now for the Knicks is the lack of chemistry, what little we're starting to get now would be completely destroyed. Really risky, but we're almost to the point where we need to take a huge risk or we'll miss the playoffs for sure.
    Thanks man lol like I said realistic hypothetical scenarios lol. Yeah Douglas may ruin it because he looks like hes not going to become a pure PG and cant really be a threat as a 2 guard and hes signed till 2014 so that may bother them a bit. Maybe throw Walker, Landry, or Balkman in there instead.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksWillRiseAgain
    So my idea is this: we send them Amare and Toney Douglas, they send us Monta Ellis, and David Lee.
    Your joking right?

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    GSW would never trade DLee for STAT, nobody will trade for an uninsured STAT who is on the downturn.

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Your joking right?
    I was thinking the same exact thing, what's wrong with some of these people.Have you guys watched the last few games, STAT is fine, he was on paces for 25+ last night, but in the words of CA7"Boom d'antoni strikes again".Iv'e seen the D lee show already, and even in this down year for STAT i'd take him over Lee.Listen, STAT will be fine, just give him the ball closer to the rim, and stop passing it to him 30feet from the hoop on the break.David LEE...Please.

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    monta ellis at pg metro would veto this trade from happening if were doing this trade to put ellis at pg lol but in all seriousness i like the idea of bringing in david lee but i would move ellis to sg or flip him in a trade for a point guard

    knicks trade ellis to clippers for bledsoe,cook,foye (we get a better bench, young quick pg that can thrive in this sytem, and another guard in foye who can also play pg as well) clippers lose some of that crowded backcourt..well looking this trade over were basically giving the clips a championship lol but if you want to help improve our bench with young talent this is the trade for you lol.

    or

    Knicks trade ellis to the hornets for eric gordon straight up win, win situation the eric gordon wont resign there anyway the way ellis is playing this season this is a fair enough trade if your the knicks you try to squeeze vasquez out of them to. Gordon is a ideal Sg to play next to Melo and he plays superb Defense and is a lethal shooter can also penetrate.

    or

    knicks trade ellis to the pistons for ben gordon/rodney stuckey win, win situation knicks are getting a PG well combo PG that has a chance to thrive in this system and push the tempo in rodney stuckey they also get a lethal shooter to spread the floor in ben gordon. as for the pistons thier future lies in the hands of brandon knight and prince rodney does not fit besides they already have will bynum as backup, their getting ellis a go to scorer down the stretch as bad as there offense is they need a scoring boost.

    but why would GS trade ellis and lee for stat? lol there doing just fine with what they got. they just need some vets,toughness and a true Center if tyson had decided to go to GSW they would probably be sitting #6 or #5 in the playoff race right now
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    Originally Posted by fender0577
    I was thinking the same exact thing, what's wrong with some of these people.Have you guys watched the last few games, STAT is fine, he was on paces for 25+ last night, but in the words of CA7"Boom d'antoni strikes again".Iv'e seen the D lee show already, and even in this down year for STAT i'd take him over Lee.Listen, STAT will be fine, just give him the ball closer to the rim, and stop passing it to him 30feet from the hoop on the break.David LEE...Please.
    Lol, pretty sure Amare4 was LOLing at it being a joke bc GSW wouldn't do that deal, not because somehow we're giving up too much.

    No offense to threadstarter, but this thread is ridiculous.

    None of these trades are even remotely realistic.

    The entire premise of trading STAT is somewhat absurd. It's more like us DUMPING Amare, because outside of the perfect situation (a la the Nets or ORL where Howard and Deron could just be bolting), so team wants Amare, unless it's for pennies to the dollar.

    He's only getting traded in a perfect scenario as such: a la the 76'ers (and we will get back maybe 50cents to the dollar, if lucky, and it's really more of a player/salary dump on our part), or to the Magic (IF Howard will even sign with us), or to the Nets (IF the Nets will even consider dealing with us, and put emotions aside).

    Honestly, Ellis and Lee for STAT and Douglas?

    GSW would laugh in our face if we proposed STAT and Douglas for Lee.

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    Wow that has to be the funniest thread here in a while.

    Douglas/STAT for Ellis/Lee

    SMH @ stupidity of the OP

    Lee ->>>>>>>>> Amare
    Ellis ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Douglas

    Warriors would be rolling in their floor laughing at this "trade proposal".

    Again SMFH

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    Please spare us Part 2.

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    Originally Posted by InGodsHands
    Wow that has to be the funniest thread here in a while.

    Douglas/STAT for Ellis/Lee

    SMH @ stupidity of the OP

    Lee ->>>>>>>>> Amare
    Ellis ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Douglas

    Warriors would be rolling in their floor laughing at this "trade proposal".

    Again SMFH
    I'm sorry, but you can't be calling out someone's stupidity when you're going to go out and saw David Lee is way better than Amare, the only thing that Lee REALLY has a upper hand on Amare is his health. Don't get me wrong, I love Lee, he was the only reason those Knicks teams were remotely interesting over the past few years, but Amare is a Top 5 PF and David Lee isn't really close to top 10.

    I agree this trade would never happen though with just Douglas unless you threw in Fields and GS was still feeling desperate

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    Originally Posted by Almost_famous718
    knicks trade ellis to the pistons for ben gordon/rodney stuckey win, win situation knicks are getting a PG well combo PG that has a chance to thrive in this system and push the tempo in rodney stuckey they also get a lethal shooter to spread the floor in ben gordon.
    LOL.......

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    Originally Posted by Purch.
    I'm sorry, but you can't be calling out someone's stupidity when you're going to go out and saw David Lee is way better than Amare, the only thing that Lee REALLY has a upper hand on Amare is his health. Don't get me wrong, I love Lee, he was the only reason those Knicks teams were remotely interesting over the past few years, but Amare is a Top 5 PF and David Lee isn't really close to top 10.

    I agree this trade would never happen though with just Douglas unless you threw in Fields and GS was still feeling desperate
    top 5 pf? if this dude was top 5

    -this team wouldn't be 8-15

    -Orlando would be throwing there selves at us for a howard/stat trade

    -he wouldn't need a pg to be effective

    -he'd man the hell up and stop acting like a pu$$y letting melo take every shot

    -continue to be a leader for this team like he was last season

    -wouldnt have 18.3 ppg, how do you have multiple 30 point games last year and drop to 18.3 ppg this year? melo's fault? no melo's still putting up his average season numbers with improvement in assits stat's not even in 20+ ppg he's puting up david lee number in ppg matter face Lee actually has him beat with 18.8 compared to stats 18.3

    -last but not least how the hell is he top 5 pf and not even starting in the allstar game is he even a reserve

    -he dont play D, rebounds when ever the hell he feels like it, argues every call he thinks is a foul stat was the main one talking about how we need to become better defensively he dont even live up to his own words smh yes part of it is not having a PG but if you carry yourself as this "DOMINATE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE" thats a poor excuse on why your play has fallen off.

    Stat is actually being exposed this season you can say ok Stat didn't need a pg last season, but wait a minute stat was playing center last season you really think centers are going to come out on the perimeter to guard stat and leave the paint? he was quicker then 90% of his matchups last year.

    so what you going to do this year stat? no PG no playing Center? you see what he's going to do he's going to tumble his way into the paint trying to blow past pf's who are able to keep up with him leading to turnovers, or offensive fouls.

    Stat has shown flashes of his former self but he cant be the stat we want him to be on consistent basis. top 5 worst IQ PF is more like it theres other PF's in this league playing top 5 bball right now

    -Kevin Love
    -Aldridge
    -Griffin
    -Chris Bosh
    -Kevin Garnett (yes kevin garnett even at his age he's consistent plays hard rebounds,shows leadership and makes his team mates better) ill take that over what ever the hell stat thinks he's doing out there stat shows up 1 or 2 nights and disappears for about 5 games straight.

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