Let him walk
Resign him and keep him long term
Resign him and trade him January 2013 with Amare
The article's title is equal parts moronic and hyperbolic (it's obvious he is doing it as a sensationalist piece, and is using a mundane, played out, and trite ploy at making a play on Harvard's rep).
The dumb**** writer answered his own questions at the end.
Financial certainty. Oh, and the motherucking Knicks didn't match the mother****ing offer which the mother****er Dolan pushed Lin to get in the first place.
Only a mother****ing idiot tells a player to test the open, free market, and then acts like his prom date ****ed his best friend when the open market doesn't go according to his plan (hint: your plan was moronic to begin with if you hadn't already considered situations being likely, like what happened with HOU).
This is all very simple. Hint #2: real businessmen don't read Forbes to derive actual business sense
Oh, and Lin prolly thinks Dolan is a ****, Melo is an antagonistic bitch, JR Smith is a racist thug, and the Knicks, fresh off another round of GM and Coach debacles, are mired in sub-contention for the next several years.....so why suckle up to Dolan's old dick and sell out for some extra bones?
Reading is indeed fundamental. However, so is thinking.
*this is my last post on Lin from this perspective, as nothing else can really be said from this side of things
Any owner that thinks they are going to make money off of a Basketball team is fooling themselves. Each owner knows you don't make money off an NBA team. Its just a play thing for these billionaires like a yacht or G-5 airplane, they just throw money at to maintain it. The only way they make money is off of ratings, corporate sponsorships, ticket prices, merchandise, etc. Why let an assets walk when you have the chance to bring in those international dollars? This would of made the Knicks a global brand not just a U.S. based brand I can not simply understand or agree with that type of logic.
Anyways Shark Tank looks like a interesting show, I don't watch very much T.V so what channel does it come on at and what time? And there is nothing to take personally its just a debate
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poster formally know as JeffVanGundyPLEASE!
Learn to read please.... "Expert" does not mean "perfect". There is "risk" in any investment. The key is to minimize the risk. There is no 100% perfect investor or the global economy wouldn't be what it is as we speak(uhhhh hello). But Mr. Dolan is showing the ability to learn from past mis-steps. Isiah is no longer team president and Mr. Dolan kept his checkbook in his back pocket when it came to J. Lin. That's what I call progress. Anyway, for all you fools screaming that Dolan is an idiot, why don't you put YOUR OWN MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS????? That's what I thought. Its you easy to play "coulda" "woulda" "shoulda" and criticize when it ain't your money.
Also knicks fan spend their money on the high priced tickets at MSG, merchandise, cable bills just to watch the knicks, we are in the end paying to have this team so we have a right to be upset if a fan favorite is not brought back for whatever asinine reason. Im still mad about the camby and latrell trade till this day
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poster formally know as JeffVanGundyPLEASE!
Lin apparently now claims that he did not have a choice; that there was only one offer. For the reasons stated in an earlier post regarding the "statute of frauds," I do not buy it. There is very substantial evidence that Houston improved an offer already made and accepted. it is unlikely that the offer was not "memorialized" in some reasonably formal way and was simly awaiting legalistic details.
It was clear that the Knicks and apparently everyone else anticipated that the formalized offer would reflect the originally announced offer. I firmly believe that Lin could have held Houston to the first offer. In any event, it would have been a public relations nightmare for Houston to have refused a Lin request to complete the first offer.
Dolan has pretty much zero track record in business success for starting or acquiring a new business on his watch. Everything he's ever had was handed to him
I actually favor Jim in this argument.
a) is still tethered to the NYK, and has Dolan's ear
b) Isiah is only gone because Dolan ****ed NYC so hard for so long, he finally relented. Oh, and Isiah got MSG/himself sued.
Literally, Stern was going to step in if Dolan didn't let go of Isiah and hire a guy like Walsh, bc the **** Dolan did the NYK franchise was getting so bad, it was having ramifications to the overall success of the league.
It doesn't matter.
You say Dolan saved money not signing Lin?
Wrong. Look at MSG stock. Even your homeboy at Forbes would have the sense that Dolan lost a lot more than Lin (or anybody else) in this matter ever will.
You wanna play a diff game and say Dolan saved our cap situation?
Wrong. We got blessed with a favorable Bird Right decision, and Lin's deal was pretty modest overall money to years.
Plus, we have a 3rd window, strategically, and even if he sucked and/or we sucked, his contract would have been an asset in the final year (when his salary was the biggest).
What say you, Jim?
And I would put my money where my mouth is against Dolan -- though idk what that even means?
If you mean make money off Dolan's idiocy regarding letting Lin go -- I already did.
I'd say it's unreal that you defend and like James Dolan like you do.
Yet, your history of defending people and wanting them tethered to the NYK primarily revolves around:
Also, why would Lin (and his agent, who has undeniable authority in the situation....which Dolan allowed to happen, by pushing Lin's hand at testing the open market) trust the NYK?
They were behind the 8-ball and indolent in re-signing even *after* Dolan's master poker move to let him test FA.
Weren't even in the top3 teams to make the initial phone call to him after FA began. When it was assumed we would, obviously, be the first and make a call ASAP at midnight, as is customary in such a situation.
Woodson making extremely weird, business-related declarations to the media which defied the very process of negotiation that Dolan established in wanting Lin to test the open market.
And like Dolan runs a well-oiled, respectable franchise to begin with? Cmon.
All this aside, Lin's final contract was very favorable to us.
It was favorable regarding cap due to our fortunate Bird Right windfall.
It was favorable strategically, bc the 3rd year in which it ballooned, coincides with the 3rd yr of our championship window and would have been a big asset to *TRADE* as an expiring if Lin was sucking and/or our team wasn't contending.
It was favorable to the overall value of MSG to sign Lin.
These are absolutes.
As was Dolan making a point to have Lin test FA and then respond.
You don't do that, and then act like a housewife who's husband forget their anniversary, when things get a little complicated or testy.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
The complications and unknowns of Lin's FA are *PRECISELY* because THIS is what DOLAN orchestrated:
when he implored Lin to test FA.
In typical Dolan fashion, something happened that he didn't like, and he panicked, and acted out of emotion and ego.
Like a spoiled legacy kid. Which he is. And which is reflected in the legacy and downfall of the NYK franchise under his reign of terror.
Game. Set. Match.