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    Knicks didn't make Lin an offer and basically told him to go get an offer and they'd match. He did, but they didn't match.

    He couldn't return to the Knicks even if he wanted to, since Knicks never made him an offer.

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    Now we speculating and insinuating, smh. C'mon...he's gone. I tell ya. I hate the political side to this sht. The biz always gets in the way of enjoying a simple game of basketball. When the fans start getting at each other over the teams money issues.....its a sign to me the heart of the game is fading and the spirit can only soon follow...this off season can't go by fast enough.

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    Originally Posted by Red
    Admit it CC.

    Lin did the one thing he could to f*ck this up. Everyone and their mother knew our intentions, it was no big secret.
    blah blah blah. i agree to disagree with you Red. after reading the whole story from Lin's side, I just hate Dolan all the more. you can call it backstabbing from Lin and agents, you can call it Dolan being dissed, but there was very little communication between Knicks and Lin during this whole process, which is indicative of a faulty front office.

    I'm really tired of defending Lin, and even more tired of hating on Dolan, as this is just another f*ckup in a VERY long line of a$$hole moves by the NY Knicks top representative, and it makes me VERY sick.

    fact is, we could have had a very good PG/SG for the next 2 years at $5M per, to bolster this squad, a very good chance at a return to Linsanity and keeping the roster together, but we got squat. If your front office cannot figure out what to do after 2 years to avoid luxury tax penalties, then... Houston, we got a prob-lin. it means the team is handcuffed once again for the next 3 years and back in salary cap hell. Our front office sucks, Dolan is a moron and Glenwald is a tool.

    how many games do you need to scout a player? isn't 26 games enough to form a decision on what a player is worth? Isn't 800K for half a season and what Lin brought to the Knicks just akin to being millionaire miser? there's no denying Linsanity helped sell MSG season tickets, helped finalize the MSG/Time Warner Cable deal, along with a plethora of multi-million dollar sponsorships opportunities and merch sales.

    Essentially, Dolan paid Lin $800K and made MEGA-MILLIONS off him, and did not return the favor, because he felt he was dissed, and took it out on Jeremy Lin. he did not understand the big picture, because he is a complete and utter idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth and does not deserve to serve.

    will these rants never stop? help me Red! let's just move on, shall we? We both want what's best for the Knicks, this whole situation is water under the bridge.

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    Imagine if the Knicks matched the contract, then at any point decided to trade Lin.

    With the combination of the (justified) hatred for Dolan, and the devotion to Lin, there was absolutely no way the dude could have been on the roster and not play out all 3 years. Even if he were stinking it up for the first 2 years and the team looked to trade him in year 3, the narrative would change to "look...he needs time to develop...he's only had 2 full seasons of NBA action, it's too soon to shut the door on him, blah blah blah."

    The only right answer was to sign Lin, and have him become a player with sustained stardom. God forbid he doesn't do that.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Imagine if the Knicks matched the contract, then at any point decided to trade Lin.

    With the combination of the (justified) hatred for Dolan, and the devotion to Lin, there was absolutely no way the dude could have been on the roster and not play out all 3 years. Even if he were stinking it up for the first 2 years and the team looked to trade him in year 3, the narrative would change to "look...he needs time to develop...he's only had 2 full seasons of NBA action, it's too soon to shut the door on him, blah blah blah."

    The only right answer was to sign Lin, and have him become a player with sustained stardom. God forbid he doesn't do that.
    The Rockets always Owns us when we do business with them, it's like were their little play toy

    but yes i would of liked the idea of Matching Lin then trading him in January to Houston when he would of been eligible to be traded at least we could of got something back for him if the Rockets really wanted him that bad

    Rockets get Lin

    Knicks get Martin & Morris

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    Originally Posted by LINvincible
    No, it's more than personal. It's simple a botch job. The Knicks front office only contacted Lin once in the entire off season. That says it all. They were going separate ways shortly after the season ended. That tweet on Felton joining the Knicks on July 4th also confirmed our suspicion. This is more than personal or financial. I think it has something to do with Melo wanting Lin out of town. Keep in mind, he was one of the 2 knuckle heads that came out and bashed Lin for that 'ridiculous' contract.
    Wow, now you're blaming Melo for running Lin out of town? Lol. Come on dude.

    You talk about the Knicks front office only having contact with Lin once in the entire off season. Was there something wrong with Lin's phone? Or did he lose it in Landry's couch cushions?

    If he wanted to be a Knick so bad, why didn't he simply pick up the phone & call the Knicks' front office & try to work out a deal before signing that official offer sheet? Instead he wants to spin the story to say the Knicks didn't show him any love. Come on now. Let's get real. He didn't exactly show that he wanted to be a Knick with the way he handled these negotiations. He maintained all along that he was going to weigh all his options while the Knicks maintained they were planning on matching any offer. Then he goes & gets a poison pill offer from the team that cut him the year prior? I'm not trying to say he did this to spite the Knicks, but to me his behavior suggests he was looking to get the highest money deal he could find regardless of where he was going to end up, which he had every right to do. Doesn't seem like a guy who so desperately wanted to remain a Knick like he's trying to portray. I don't like the talking out of both sides of his mouth, I would have respected him a lot more if he had just kept it real & said he was looking to get the best deal he could because as a free agent that was his right to do it.

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    Originally Posted by Uncle Robo
    Knicks didn't make Lin an offer and basically told him to go get an offer and they'd match. He did, but they didn't match.

    He couldn't return to the Knicks even if he wanted to, since Knicks never made him an offer.
    I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The Knicks actually did extend a qualifying offer to Lin in June. If they hadn't done that he would have become an UNrestricted free agent & the Knicks would have lost their right to match any offer.

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    The Knicks extended qualifying offers to Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields yesterday, which will make them restricted free agents Sunday.
    The Knicks are expected to match all offers for Lin.
    On the open market, Lin can’t earn more than the average salary, which is roughly $5.2 million. The Knicks can pay him up to about $5.5 million if the union wins the NBA’s appeal of the “early-Bird” rights...

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    I was also listening to JVG on the radio and he was asked about JR Smith saying Lin's contract would cause problems in the locker room. JVG said he was very surprised by that because players generally are happy for any player that gets a big contract. Which leads me to believe that a lot of the crap that's said about the kid is because he is Asian.


    Yup. Spot on.

    But let's not talk about this extrordinary statement which Smith made (which is sure to be a coincidence alongside Melo labeling the contract "ridiculous"), or that these comments were made during the negotiation process for a NYK.

    Let's also not talk about Woodsom making public, sweeping statements about Lin and his contract, *during* the process of negotiation. Not that this has to do with race, but...

    HOLY ****ING ****. Lmao, it's almost comedic what a bunch of wack ass jokers we have running this team....from head coach right up to the esteemed owner.

    But Lin is just "some Asian dude" so whatever.

    Only certain types of people matter, and special types of racism and bigotry should be punished and called out.

    This **** is sickening. Yet so predictable. Never been so ashamed to call myself a NYK fan, or to be a part of a fanbase here with several posters whom have been saying **** ranging from suspiciously bigoted and prejudicial, to outright racist and bigoted.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    This **** is sickening. Yet so predictable. Never been so ashamed to call myself a NYK fan, or to be a part of a fanbase here with several posters whom have been saying **** ranging from suspiciously bigoted and prejudicial, to outright racist and bigoted.

    I say "Ughh".

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    Since we all know that the NBA is a business first, I think what the Knicks and Lin did was good for each side. Since Lin has never played a full 82 (nonetheless start) game season, no one really knows what Lin can do. Since Lin will be 26 after his second season with the rockets, wouldn't he be a restricted free agent and we could offer him contract to bring him back for what he's actually proven he's worth? I would much rather have him be with the rockets and show what he can do (or can't do) before investing so much into him. How plausible is this scenario? I mean this could possible be a win-win situation for the Knicks if after 2 years Lin is a top 8 point guard and the Knicks could offer him a contract Houston couldn't afford. Not too mention if Lin didn't turn out to be good then the Knicks look good. Thoughts?

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    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but ESPN has an extremely detailed 6 part article from the behind the scenes perspective of every camp on what really happened. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Each camp looked at the same situation and saw something different.

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    Originally Posted by NJknick
    Since we all know that the NBA is a business first, I think what the Knicks and Lin did was good for each side. Since Lin has never played a full 82 (nonetheless start) game season, no one really knows what Lin can do. Since Lin will be 26 after his second season with the rockets, wouldn't he be a restricted free agent and we could offer him contract to bring him back for what he's actually proven he's worth? I would much rather have him be with the rockets and show what he can do (or can't do) before investing so much into him. How plausible is this scenario? I mean this could possible be a win-win situation for the Knicks if after 2 years Lin is a top 8 point guard and the Knicks could offer him a contract Houston couldn't afford. Not too mention if Lin didn't turn out to be good then the Knicks look good. Thoughts?
    Lin signed a 3 year guaranteed contract, not 2. He won't be a FA until 3 years from now, the same year that STAT, Melo & Tyson's contracts will be expiring, so the Knicks will have plenty of cap space to sign him should be become the star player that some people think he will become. However, since he'll have been on the same team for 3 years by that point the Rockets will also own his Bird Rights so they will be able to exceed the salary cap to re-sign him if they are over the cap that year. It would be a funny twist of irony if Lin were to come back to the Knicks for another max money deal at that point I have to admit.

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    Got it, thanks! So basically the only way we could get him is if he wasn't planning on resigning with the rockets after 3 years then they would pretty much HAVE to trade him right (that is if he wanted to come back)?

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    Originally Posted by NJknick
    Got it, thanks! So basically the only way we could get him is if he wasn't planning on resigning with the rockets after 3 years then they would pretty much HAVE to trade him right (that is if he wanted to come back)?
    He would be an unrestricted FA after his 3 year contract expires. He could sign with any team he wants to sign with. The Rockets would own his Bird Rights only meaning they would have the ability to exceed the salary cap to sign him to an extension, but they would have no hold over Lin like the Knicks had over him this offseason when Lin was restricted.

    At least that's how I understand it. If I am wrong then someone feel free to correct me. I'm not exactly an expert on the CBA.

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    Originally Posted by knickerlocker
    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but ESPN has an extremely detailed 6 part article from the behind the scenes perspective of every camp on what really happened. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Each camp looked at the same situation and saw something different.
    That was the best article I've seen chronicling the Lin FA story. Seems the luxury tax does matter, the Knicks discussed a front loaded deal paying 5M for the first 2 years and 3M in yr 3. They also determined that Lin jersey sales, incremental ticket and TV money wouldn't be a factor. Only thing I wonder is if the Knicks didn't sign Felton would they have matched.

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