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    i DONT anymore think lin is the problem, he has lots of space to improve but he has been doing a pretty good job, but amare and melo simply do NOT hit shots, whether they are wide open or not..nor does the rest of the team..every game we put up such a low pct...

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    All these posts still come back to poor coaching.

    D'antoni is either afraid to make Stat & Melo play both ends of the floor or he is just at a loss on how to coach.

    Really, would JVG watch Lin get pressed / double teamed like no other PG in the league and not give him help?

    When Kidd forearmed Lin to the floor in Dallas why did no big man step up and send a message to Kidd?

    Lin is really a rookie, plays his ass off, tries to cover defensive mistakes by Stat & Melo, etc., and never complains. Lin just about has a Wanted Poster Dead or Alive on his head and gets no help from his coach or star players.

    Would Ewing or Oak allowed their PG to get hammered constantly? No!

    Our coach is in over his head and he knows it, so he just takes his paycheck until he gets fired.

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    Originally Posted by elcol
    i DONT anymore think lin is the problem, he has lots of space to improve but he has been doing a pretty good job, but amare and melo simply do NOT hit shots, whether they are wide open or not..nor does the rest of the team..every game we put up such a low pct...

    Not only that, they don't play D as well. If they are not so call superstar of our team, they would be sitting right next to TD.

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    Originally Posted by CLYDE
    All these posts still come back to poor coaching.

    D'antoni is either afraid to make Stat & Melo play both ends of the floor or he is just at a loss on how to coach.

    Really, would JVG watch Lin get pressed / double teamed like no other PG in the league and not give him help?

    When Kidd forearmed Lin to the floor in Dallas why did no big man step up and send a message to Kidd?

    Lin is really a rookie, plays his ass off, tries to cover defensive mistakes by Stat & Melo, etc., and never complains. Lin just about has a Wanted Poster Dead or Alive on his head and gets no help from his coach or star players.

    Would Ewing or Oak allowed their PG to get hammered constantly? No!

    Our coach is in over his head and he knows it, so he just takes his paycheck until he gets fired.
    I remembered the first Dallas game when Jason Terry tripped Lin and JJ went over to talk to JT. When Lin got clobbered now, the 2 bums couldn't care less. I don't like MDA, but when he HAS to play the 2 bums major minutes because they are paid $100 mil. I pray another team is stupid enough to want Melo before the deadline.

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    Originally Posted by red32
    I'm not sure BD will be a better starter. He's not having any less TO's than Lin, but with him you lose the scoring potential from Lin (going to the basket). And since other team probably wouldn't need to double-team BD, this means that we are pretty much back to the 1-on-1 offense again.

    Lin does needs to slow down a bit. The 2 old guys just can't keep up...
    I noticed how he tends to be reckless on fast brakes. He'll usually overthrow the pass to his player down the court which results in another one of his turnovers.

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    Default Bench Lin!!!

    It's obvious the players are who they are. Things we know for sure:

    Amare plays no D
    Amare is not being benched
    Melo is having a horrific shooting year
    Melo is not being benched
    Jlin is a hell of a player who has his best effect on the games out come when he's lose and scoring.

    Bad enough trying to get Amare and Melo touches, we need lin to score as well to be effective.

    Lin and Amare in time could be great

    Lin and Melo polarize each other due to constant need for the ball.

    The 20mil dollar men need room to create which Baron can provide through crafty escape dribbles and creating angles.

    Baron is more a distributor first. He Can create more action that keeps defenses on their heels , a situation that will better allow the starting front court to attack.

    With Lin on the bench he can go back to being the first option on the floor and in that feel more confident and relaxed and get the hustle guys on the bench running.

    I would do

    BDiddy
    Shump/J.R
    Melo
    Amare
    Chandler

    Jlin
    J>R/shump
    Novak/Landry
    Jeffries
    Jorts

    Bdiddy in the starting line up works because of his creativeness and veteran savvy to create space because as you see there is a problem spreading the floor with the non shooting starters we have.

    If Bd j.r and shump can start hittin jumpers at any where near a respectable clip we're off as long as our D is atleast fomidable.

    Jlin becomes your spark off the bench a guy that can go for 20 and work with a team of hustlers off the bench.

    AS a note: Bdiddy is turning it over on high energy passes and risk taking. Lin is jump passing stumbling and rushing the game, thinking too hard.

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    So the guy who made an impact and saved our season needs to take a back seat to two guys who can't get on the same page with each other?

    Lin led this roster when our "superstars" were injured. Everyone was playing off of Lin's energy and production. THAT'S leadership.

    Amare spent the offseason trolling everyone into thinking he'd be the leader and build chemistry with team workouts. Melo didn't even give a f*ck about building chemistry with his MAX counterpart. He preferred maintaining his social status with 3 guys who have gone on to lead their teams in unbelievable fashion! Wade and James are beasting it up in Miami and CP3 has turned the Clippers around.


    Without Lin, we wouldn't even be in playoff contention.

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    Lin already did his thing to bridge the Giants to the start of baseball, now he has to take a seat and let the All Star name players take the stage and make the NBA look good heading into the playoffs

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    Default Just sayin'

    Metro, in a Vacuum or a perfect world what you say makes sense. In the interest of going as far as we can with what we have now, Lin off the bench is the way to go.

    The coach is horrible. Cannot utilize classic simple basketball plays that utilize movement of The BALL FROM PLAYER TO PLAYER.

    This Coach wants the ball to be moved by the guard til option 1 is found (within the first 7 seconds) after that it is what it is.

    I think that's a lot to ask from Lin. Unless you think starting him the rest of the season gets us ready for next year with a new coach and a gm prepared to build around him. No need to bench him.

    Considering what we have and how best to benefit ALL players need to look at starting Davis.

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    Even though I don't think BD is a better starter than Lin, but it would be interesting to try this out for couple games while we still can.

    This might work because Melo and Stat wouldn't feel like they have to play thru BD (like they have to play thru Lin). So if this first unit could "hang in there" and then Lin could come in with the 2nd unit and a faster pace.

    If this would make Melo and Stat perform better, why not?

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    Originally Posted by czoneny
    Lin seems to have lost that killer instinct and aggressiveness that started the winning streak. Of course that was without our "Max Cats" in the lineup. Now Lin has to play NBA Politician and make sure everybody gets their shots.


    I agree with the above, but I don't think he's "lost" the instinct,
    just that he feels the need (as you wrote) to make sure everybody
    gets their shots.

    I also think that he needs to be able to play more game, in order
    to work up to that aggressiveness. Taking a rest on the bench only
    kills the momentum. (In my opinion as I'm new to basketball.)

    I think he needs to follow his instincts and take more shots when
    he needs to!



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    Originally Posted by Newbie


    I agree with the above, but I don't think he's "lost" the instinct,
    just that he feels the need (as you wrote) to make sure everybody
    gets their shots.

    I also think that he needs to be able to play more game, in order
    to work up to that aggressiveness. Taking a rest on the bench only
    kills the momentum. (In my opinion as I'm new to basketball.)

    I think he needs to follow his instincts and take more shots when
    he needs to!


    Melo is too selfish and Lin is too Unselfish. Lin should be more like Melo. Melo is shooting 40%, Lin should take some of melo's shot.

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    Originally Posted by TruOrngnBlu
    Metro, in a Vacuum or a perfect world what you say makes sense. In the interest of going as far as we can with what we have now, Lin off the bench is the way to go.

    The coach is horrible. Cannot utilize classic simple basketball plays that utilize movement of The BALL FROM PLAYER TO PLAYER.

    This Coach wants the ball to be moved by the guard til option 1 is found (within the first 7 seconds) after that it is what it is.

    I think that's a lot to ask from Lin. Unless you think starting him the rest of the season gets us ready for next year with a new coach and a gm prepared to build around him. No need to bench him.

    Considering what we have and how best to benefit ALL players need to look at starting Davis.
    Exactly, I think staying with Lin as a starter benefits him more so than the rest of the team because it allows him to find himself as a player since he is basically like a rookie PG out there.

    But Lin starting isn't the only problem it's mostly that this system doesn't mesh well with the overall personnel.

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    Lin is not the problem at all in our team IMO

    We are bloody lucky to have him on our team because we would be in the **** even further if he wasnt here, and he deserves to be on the starting 5 unlike a few others that i wont care to mention ....

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    couldn't agree more. Lin for a guy playing his what 25th game? Kid nails the 3 for the most part, gives ya 15 pts 8 assist a night...i love his game. He just needs work on his T/O's but that will come. He's 23. Hope the Knicks can keep him. He seems to be the most consistant Knick along with TC



    Originally Posted by wian
    Lin is not the problem at all in our team IMO

    We are bloody lucky to have him on our team because we would be in the **** even further if he wasnt here, and he deserves to be on the starting 5 unlike a few others that i wont care to mention ....

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