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    Just my opinion 26 minutes vs the 40-45minutes in the past.

    Of which 2-3 minutes Knicks team ignored him, they went 2-3 posessions with him not even touching the ball, just being on the court ignored by teammates.

    2-3 minutes of garbage time at end, then Woodson realized he was just wearing out Lin's legs in a blowout after JR Smiths 2 costly come-back killing turnovers.


    If you watch a lot of the games where Novak goes off - Lin creates shots or sees openings and ignores everyone to give it to Novak when he is hot.
    * The point statistic when Lin and Novak are working together is the highest scoring pairing - for the entire Knicks team.
    * Knicks are putting too much on JR Smith, he isnt good under pressure. But can shoot from the parking lot when there is none - garbage time minutes or when we are up - usually.

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    I know he was having a tough game, but 25 minutes? Cripes.

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    Originally Posted by munco
    I know he was having a tough game, but 25 minutes? Cripes.
    Seriously -_- of which 5 were worthless minutes.

    1/2 because his teammates on the floor with him at the time, completely ignored him.

    1/2 because Coach stuck him in almost midway into the 4th, MID-Blowout... as if he was Bibby.

    If he was hoping for a miracle, it was way too late ~ though I think the nails to the coffin came from JR Smith. 2 crucial turnovers in a row - completely telegraphed where he was passing.

    If everyone is having an off-night ~ you need to go with your best options. Pair up Lin and Novak to be the main generators of points and have the others focus on rebounding & hustling.

    If Lin and Novak are looking for good shots and hustling - they will pass the ball enough to :

    1. either get open
    2. create an opening for a teammate
    3. Generate enough ball movement.
    4. someone needs to be telling Lin: "YOU ARE THE MAN, OWN THIS"
    * He is always blaming himself and taking every missed shot and every turnover - to heart. Sometimes I think its too much - because then he starts deferring too quickly, giving up his dribble, looking to pass - when he should move a bit more - or attack the basket then pass if he cant take it to the hole.

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    Knicks will not go far this year when the main focus on offense is Melo. He is having a terrible year shooting under 40%. He is playing way better D under Woodson but his shooting is still the same 39%. The offense should not focus on him. We should get Amar'e, Novak, Lin more shots. They have a higher chance of making them than Melo.

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    Minutes Break-Down.

    Feb 14, 2012

    Amare 34 min 21pts
    Bill W. 30 min 8pts
    Tyson 28 min 13pts
    Landry 37 min 8 pts
    JLIN 43 min 27 pts

    Bench came up with 13pts total.
    Bibby 0 min
    Jared 19 min
    Novak 19 min
    Shump 27 min





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    March 20, 2012

    Melo 31 min 17pts
    Amare 34 min 22 pts
    Tyson 29 min 17 pts
    Landry 23 min 6 pts
    JLIN 29 min 18 pts

    Bench - 26 pts

    Bibby 12 min 1 pt
    Jared 19 min 4 pt
    Novak 16 min 6pts
    JRS 19 min 11 pts
    Shump 22 min 4 pts




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    March 23, 2012

    Melo 30 min 12pts
    Amare 34 min 17 pts
    Tyson 32 min 2 pts
    Landry 22 min 3 pts
    JLIN 26 min 6 pts


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    Bench 39 pts - including garbage minutes pts.

    BD 22 min 5 pts
    Novak 25 min 15 pts
    JRS 23 min 7 pts
    Shump 17 min 7 pts
    Harrelson 7 min 2 pts


    Turnover difference. Comparison between last 3 raptors game including last nights loss.
    11, 16, 22.

    Without BD, MELO, AMARE - only 10 turnovers. Looks about EQUAL to the Feb 10 game when all 3 were not playing vs Raptors.



    Worst offenders this recent game:

    Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire, Baron Davis w/ 4 each.

    Score at Halftime: 36 - 39

    # OF SHOTS BY JEREMY LIN 1st HALF : SIX


    Score while Lin was on bench. 3rd to 4th. 44-53 -> 63-76
    The time between - when Lin sat - and came-back in the 4th.


    * 3rd quarter 1/3 - only 3 shots.
    # SHOTS TAKEN BY LIN IN 3rd QUARTER - THREE, only THREE SHOTS in the entire 2nd half.

    8:03 Jeremy Lin enters the game for Baron Davis 63-76
    * during the 5-minutes Lin was in the game 4th Q - he took a total of 0 shots.
    --- listed below are the shots that were taken while Lin was in - when he FINALLY got back in the 4th around 8minutes left.
    JR Smith 1/3 * 2 turnovers in 7 seconds both for scores in 7 seconds.
    Amare 0/2
    Melo 0/2
    Tyson - no shots, except offensive goaltending
    Novak 0/1

    Raptors 12-4 Run.

    SHOTS TAKEN BY JEREMY LIN IN the 4th - ZERO
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    I'm going to say it 1 more time - everyone had a poor game. Some more so than others -but there were some DRASTIC changes in this game. Woodson was experimenting, Guys were getting MORE MINUTES. Other guys were getting more chances - we see a lot of the bench being showcased and given the green-light by woodson.

    * Ask yourself this, when was there a quarter that you saw Jeremy Lin make 0 shot attempts. ZERO.
    * 3 shots in an ENTIRE 2nd HALF.
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    76ers Game.


    STARTERS MIN FGM-A FTM-A TO PTS
    Carmelo Anthony, SF 34 5-15 0-1 2 10
    Amare Stoudemire, PF 37 8-14 5-8 2 21
    Tyson Chandler, C 25 1-4 2-2 0 4
    Landry Fields, G 18 3-3 2-3 0 8
    Jeremy Lin, PG 36 4-17 10-10 2 18

    BENCH MIN FGM-A FTM-A TO PTS
    Baron Davis, PG 12 2-7 0-0 3 5
    Jared Jeffries, PF 14 1-4 0-0 1 2
    Steve Novak, SF 10 1-1 0-0 0 2
    J.R. Smith, SG 29 3-11 1-2 2 8
    Iman Shumpert, G 25 1-3 2-2 0 4



    So upon some review.
    * Carmelo normally hits 5/15 so that hasnt really changed. 30% is normal for him.
    Big difference in 24 hrs
    - minutes ::: which can be expanded upon concerning flow of game. offense. team chemistry. etc - intangibles
    - shot attempts ::: with only 9 shots, you just have no idea ~ how he would have shot with 7-15 more attempts.
    * You don't know if he could have gotten more lay-ups or aggressive attacks into the paint.



    Woodson played the minutes - as if we were leading by a large margin. Not fighting to keep Toronto from blowing us out.



    For historical perspective:

    Lakers Game

    Jeremy Lin: 39 Minutes 13-23 FreeThrows 10/13 38points.

    *Note : Everyone had a bad night vs Raptors - please read my posts before you misunderstand me
    - i think the entire team needs shooting drills and shoot practices - even on rest days.
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    anyone have an idea why Lin tends to play so poorly on the road?

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    Originally Posted by udgnim
    anyone have an idea why Lin tends to play so poorly on the road?

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    Because teams don't wanna have anything to do with "Linsanity" on their court.

    It's a gift and a curse for the Knicks.

    It actually might be better if Lin played more off the ball on the road.

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    Originally Posted by udgnim
    anyone have an idea why Lin tends to play so poorly on the road?

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    Maybe he likes the background at MSG. I know I play better at certain gym than others. Lin is hooked on MSG.

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    B. Davis :
    34 Minutes

    3/12 Field Goals Made/Attempts 25% shooting.

    1/5 3PM-Attempts

    6/6 Free Trhows

    5 Rebounds

    7 Assists

    1 Steal

    9 Turnovers vs the Bucks.


    * Jeremy Lin still deserves to be a starter.
    Beyond simple #'s breakdown - the teams chemistry and flow on offense is better under Jeremy - stagnant under Baron. For whatever reason BD is disconnected with his teammates - then gets mad and starts blaming them.
    EX: when he traveled with Jennings on him - then he started blaming everyone around him.

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    Tina Cervasio reports:
    Jeremy Lin said his knee started hurting him in games vs Toronto & Detroit -back-to-backs/ 3rd & 4th games in 5 days.


    Just in case I forget to post this elsewhere : Knicks are resting tomorrow (Tuesday) - The teams starting to hurt pretty badly.



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    Originally Posted by kinein
    Tina Cervasio reports:
    Jeremy Lin said his knee started hurting him in games vs Toronto & Detroit -back-to-backs/ 3rd & 4th games in 5 days.


    Just in case I forget to post this elsewhere : Knicks are resting tomorrow (Tuesday) - The teams starting to hurt pretty badly.



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    Guess who is #1?
    Cool stat, but freaked me out to see M. Bonner with a 260 +/-

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    Default Linsanity in Canada

    I thought you Knicks fans and Linsanity fans might be interested to know that Linsanity is still bigger than ever north of the border. We went to the ACC before the Knicks were set to take on the Raptors last Friday (Which ironically ended in a blow out...sorry guys) and we interviewed a bunch of people and Linsanity was nuts! Check out the video:

    Keep in mind too, this year most games are pretty low key for us because of how terrible we are, but this game was definitely sold out! ALl for Linsanity...oh and Steve Novak too!

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    Originally Posted by Raptorsfan
    I thought you Knicks fans and Linsanity fans might be interested to know that Linsanity is still bigger than ever north of the border. We went to the ACC before the Knicks were set to take on the Raptors last Friday (Which ironically ended in a blow out...sorry guys) and we interviewed a bunch of people and Linsanity was nuts! Check out the video:

    Keep in mind too, this year most games are pretty low key for us because of how terrible we are, but this game was definitely sold out! ALl for Linsanity...oh and Steve Novak too!

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    You can say whatever with Linsanity, he is just good for business.

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    Yeah Lin is a boon for the NBA and will continue to be. i fully expect him to remain a knick. Dolan's got those $$ in his eyes.

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