Let him walk
Resign him and keep him long term
Resign him and trade him January 2013 with Amare
I agree 100 percent with all that. Wow, very well put. Lin was so humble when this all started and he seems to have gotten very big headed since.
Just reading on another board that maybe the Knicks blew this by coming out and saying they would match any offer which eventually coaxed Houston into coming up with the 2nd offer. Earlier this week, Woodson even said that they would absolutely bring him back and that he would be his starting PG. Hard to get on Woody there but maybe it wasn't in his (or the Knicks') best interest to say that. I dunno...Maybe we should've been a little more tight-lipped about the whole thing..What do you guys think -- any truth to this or is this overblown media crap?
However the large contract can be from his new agent telling him "look Jeremy you had a breakout season and this is payday for you. The Knicks will match anything so just go for the gold. You are worth every penny" and Lin was prob like "you know what I was an x factor and the Knicks need me, why not?"
I guess I meant Lin was given the keys to a sinking ship, whether he was expected to save it from sinking or not, he was given the keys as a PG who is the one to lead and orchestrate an offense that was pure stagnation.
Lin had pressure trying to save the team from missing the playoffs, trying to save Mike D his job, then trying to make Melo and Amare look good because people (expected) him to bejust as good with Melo and Amare.
I have not seen whatever "rules" apply to offer sheets, but it appears that "offers" can be made at any time prior to a free agent's signing elsewhere. It seems that July 11th was simply the earliest date when restricted free agents could sign either a new contract with their last team or an offer sheet with some other team. If this is true, then there was no official offer to match until Lin signed it. Houston changed the offer that was announced a week or so ago and apparently Lin has signed the new more generous offer. That third year amount, now almost $15M, will substantially increase the luxury tax the Knicks will be paying in the third year.
It is my understanding that without responding to an offer from another team, the most the Knicks could offer Lin was about $24.6M in a four year contract. It is also my understanding that for the first two years of any offered contract another team would have approximaately the same limits as the Knicks -- slightly over $5M a year. However, other teams, but not the Knicks, could back load the last two years of a four year contract with max amounts of about $15M a year. In theory, another team could have offered Lin approximately $40M over four years.
Houston's original offer was something like a four year contract with the last year a team option. Thus only three years would be guaranteed. The first two of those three years were at a little over $5M a year and the third a little less than $10M. We were relieved that it was not worse and it was abundantly clear that the Knicks would match.
Now Houston has eliminated the option year and increased the third year by about $5M. With their already existing contracts and the recent signings of Kidd and Camby to three year contracts the Knicks will be into luxury tax territory three years from now. It is not clear where they will be in four years because Amare's and Melo's contracts will have expired along with Camby's and Kidd's. I believe Tyson will still have another year.
If Houston really wanted Lin, why not give him a four year contract? Instead, Houston appears fully to expect the Knicks to match the offer, but to have stuck it to the Knicks. There is no longer an option year and substantial third year luxury tax problems. What Houston has done is similar to a string bet in poker. Its not nice.
I do not necessarily blame Lin but I think he has made a "marketing" mistake. His three year offer from Houston matches in amount what the Knicks could have paid him over four years. But $24.6M over four years is hardly chump change and sets him up for life. He may well have missed an opportunity to be something of an icon in New York by not signing the re-worked Houston offer and, instead, signing with the Knicks on the terms available to the Knicks. In the long run I doubt very much it would have hurt him financially.
I do not know enough about the "marketing" end of the business or how much of the "marketing" income the team garners and how much the player gets. I assume that New York is a much better marketing location than Houston, but perhaps not as much as one would expect given the global nature of baskeball. For example, does it make a difference in Beijing that Lin plays for Houston or for the Knicks? I cannot imagine that Lin would prefer to be in Houston rather than New York.
You can say the same thing about Melo, how he made a mistake by forcing the trade because he wanted that extra guaranteed year. I doubt it would have hurt him in the long run financially.I do not necessarily blame Lin but I think he has made a "marketing" mistake. His three year offer from Houston matches in amount what the Knicks could have paid him over four years. But $24.6M over four years is hardly chump change and sets him up for life. He may well have missed an opportunity to be something of an icon in New York by not signing the re-worked Houston offer and, instead, signing with the Knicks on the terms available to the Knicks. In the long run I doubt very much it would have hurt him financially.
Rockets aren't sticking it to us, they really want Lin and they are doing right by their Chinese fans. They're doing right by Lin and one day, when it is time to move from New York, Lin knows he has a home in Houston.
Pretty bonehead move by Woodson to say that Knicks will match anything and that Lin will start. Not sure why he is getting involved in the first place.
Rockets really want Lin and they want to make the Knicks think twice about matching, and that's fair play. They're not out to get us.
Really? This time last year it was looking like his non-existent NBA career was coming to an end. It was the Knicks that allowed him the opportunity to unfold his skills. He's a good player and probably has the potential to become a top 5 PG, but if this story holds any truth in it then it's clear he values himself more than he should at this point. Someone needs to tell him that players have shed tonnes of sweat to gain the recognition and respect of basketball fans. 25 decent/good starts is no where near enough for someone to kick up a fuss over something this trivial. If he's that upset over the Knicks displaying some common sense then he should just head off to houston. Otherwise he should keep quiet and work his socks off so that he may contribute to the team's (and his own) success next year. He hasn't won us all over....yet.
I think the salary cap should be ONE million per year, but
what do I know. Do I think Jeremy Lin is being greedy?
Perhaps, but with what they're paying these players,
I think anyone in his position would try to get as much
as he can.
It's also my opinion, that high salary or not, the fans
are going to turn on him if he doesn't deliver. And, I
think he knows that as well. SO, why not get as much
as he can? Everyone else would do the same.