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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    Did you start watching basketball today? The coach is the one who has the power to decide who plays and who doesn't play. D'antoni was a fool for not playing Lin when he first got here and he will even look like a bigger fool if he wears Lin out just like he did to Duhon, Felton and Shumpert.
    When you think about it,(this is rarity around here mind you) it's not as easy to make the call to give Lin big minutes as you think.

    Td is a third year player that's earned the opportunity to start, as we tried at the beginning of the season. He sucked terribly sooooo the next logical option would be your 1st round pick in Shumpert. He's been up and down as most rookies are, but not terrible.

    Then you have Lin who's unproven, unheralded, bounced around a bit in the League so there's a progression that needs to take place, which takes some time. Seems to me that Lin gradually won the confidence of the coaches with his work ethic and improved play in practice. Apparently he was owning all of our guards. But even then, as a coach you don't just throw him in there and give him big minutes. Lin played some against Houston and from there continued to play more minutes n proved that he belongs on the floor. A player has to unequivocally PROVE that.

    No coach is just gonna throw an unproven guy in there w/out exhausting other options and going through a certain process that starts in practice and ends w the player earning it in games w gradually increased minutes based on production. Lin's jumped through all the hoops and now he's where we need him to be. He earned a start and he got it.. There's always an evaluation process taking place.
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    Originally Posted by BachaCho
    Alright go eat a dic* i was just saying because D antoni usually changes players but we have a diamond in the dirt and Lin can really make a difference
    You should think more before you post son. Insults don't equal quality n bad uninformed posting is just that. Learn from me..

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    When you think about it,(this is rarity around here mind you) it's not as easy to make the call to give Lin big minutes as you think.

    Td is a third year player that's earned the opportunity to start, as we tried at the beginning of the season. He sucked terribly sooooo the next logical option would be your 1st round pick in Shumpert. He's been up and down as most rookies are, but not terrible.

    Then you have Lin who's unproven, unheralded, bounced around a bit in the League so there's a progression that needs to take place, which takes some time. Seems to me that Lin gradually won the confidence of the coaches with his work ethic and improved play in practice. Apparently he was owning all of our guards. But even then, as a coach you don't just throw him in there and give him big minutes. Lin played some against Houston and from there continued to play more minutes n proved that he belongs on the floor. A player has to unequivocally PROVE that.

    No coach is just gonna throw an unproven guy in there w/out exhausting other options and going through a certain process that starts in practice and ends w the player earning it in games w gradual increased minutes based on production. Lin's jumped through all the hoops and now he's where we need him to be. He earned a start and he got it.. There's always an evaluation process taking place.
    I was just joking, dude. I think D'antoni is the greatest coach in the NBA.

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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    I was just joking, dude. I think D'antoni is the greatest coach in the NBA.
    Lol.............

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    so how many assists would lin have with all the jeffries misses?

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    You should think more before you post son. Insults don't equal quality n bad uninformed posting is just that. Learn from me..
    I dont need to learn anything from you i know what i said D antoni has a tendency to change players but like i said Lin is a diamond in the dirt

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    Originally Posted by BachaCho
    I dont need to learn anything from you i know what i said D antoni has a tendency to change players but like i said Lin is a diamond in the dirt

    go back and read your posts and c if you said nething of substance.

    He's a "diamond in the dirt". great facking analysis there..

    What you intimated re Lin will NEVER happen because he's doing exactly what MDA needs him to do already. This is why your comment was asinine n received an appropriate response from moi.

    If Lin all of sudden starts taking an abundance threes it'll be because he's settling and forgotten what he needs to do to propel the team. If he does this he'll be a failure like our other PG flops.

    Few can play inside an out like Nash, Paul n Deron do.

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    Originally Posted by Toons
    douglas is a SHOOTING GUARD, lin is a POINT GUARD....if you dont know the difference you should quit watching basketball.
    in a perfect world toney only plays the 2 (or not at all) but that wasnt the case. i dont care what position youre most comfortable with you cant be chucking when youre in as the pg, or if you suck at shooting at any position.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    But to be fair, he was behind Steph Curry, Monta Ellis, Kyle Lowry, and Jonny Flynn...where was he getting his mins on those teams?

    The Knicks were toiling with Shump and TD, Lin played well against the Rockets....didn't play against the Bulls, played well for a half against the Celtics, didn't play in the second half...set the world on fire against the Nets...and now he's a starter. Plus Tyson said "our guys have trouble staying in front of him in 3 on 3 drills."

    It's understandable for Lin to not get in ahead Steph, Monta, and Kyle....but 2 SGs in Shump and TD?

    Makes no sense.


    But nevertheless, good stuff tonight.

    The first thing I thought of as to why he hasnt played much in his career yet. There probably isnt any fault in this at all...
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    Toney Douglas was so bad at PG that he could not understand the fact that when a big man sets a screen to run the pick and roll, it might sometimes be a good option to pass to that big man rolling towards the basket, especially if he's the most physically dominant big man in the NBA today and one of the best pick and roll players of all time.

    I mean that's like 4th grade common sense

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    I just call em how I see em man.


    Red likes to say the above also but he acts plenty foolish on the board and I've argued circles around n schooled him too..
    By no means does Red need my help, but I find this comment insane. I,m not sure what topics you think you've bested him on, but if its MDA you need to reread your stuff bro...

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    Seriously how ignorant can you be??

    Yes shooting threes is fine. The three ball has it's place, but by and large MDA wants his point guard to drive the ball into the teeth of the D, run pick and roll, draw the D and finish at the rim, or if it's not there kick or find someone cutting to the rim.

    That is the essence of what he'd like to see his PG do in this system. Jeremy Lin is doing exactly that.

    Stop.

    Neither you or Fender know what the hell you're talking about.
    So what does he want from the center and power forward positions?

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    I thought MDA needed superstars as rare as a 4-titted woman to run his offense well?

    Oh..that's right, MDA owns the **** out of this league in player development at the point, and player development in general,

    which I will actually define, and can actually back up through fact, as

    *exceeding expectations
    *career years/career peaks

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    Nice thread, jpz.

    Damn Lin made my great day even better. That three that he had to shoot quickly was amazing.

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    By no means does Red need my help, but I find this comment insane. I,m not sure what topics you think you've bested him on, but if its MDA you need to reread your stuff bro...
    Why because you don't agree w me? I seem to recall taking you to the woodshed once or twice too lol.

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