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    Default Can the Knicks REALLY get ANYTHING for Bibby and Balkman?!

    So Chris Broussard said that the Knicks offered the Rockets a package of Renaldo Balkman and Mike Bibby for Johnny Flynn. One can only assume that they have offered this package to other teams including Cleveland for Ramon Sessions. My question is tho, can we really get anything for Renaldo Balkman and Mike Bibby AT ALL?!? Or is Grunwald just a nutcase?

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    Flynn would be good. And maybe realistic.

    He's so low on the totem pole right now.

    Arguably, his ceiling is still fairly high.

    Given MDA's proclivity towards coaching up players and milking talent, especially with PG's, it's worth a flyer if we can do it. And gives us some insurance and quality PG backup for Lin, particularly if Baron doesn't heal.

    I'm sure the goal is to somehow get Lin + 1 PG who we could somehow feel confident with as our starts moving forward next year.

    And then use our MLE on a best player available situation -- OJ Mayo, eg. Or Nash, if he somehow agreed. But if we can't get a diamond in the rough for our MLE....we'll beef up our team with a legit 2guard with range, and/or a quality backup forward.

    Augustin always a possibility, too, but if Lin keeps playing real solid, and Augustin remains injury-riddled or has weak play, I'm not sure we'd use our full MLE on him.

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    We could probably get a toaster strudel without the icing

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    ...draft picks?

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    If it's Broussard I wouldn't care about what he says... this guy lives in his own world, he's media kind of shizzee, only he screams more.

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    Originally Posted by pakopako
    ...draft picks?
    Maybe a 3rd rounder

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    No one wants to take on the year that is pending in Balkman's contract

    Right now, Mike Bibby couldn't consistently and effectively give you worthy minutes even if he played one-on-one against Deb Sunderman with a flat tire

    So, only way to get rid of Balkman (Bibby is easier to unload because of his expiring deal) would be to package him with Fields, Douglas or Shumpert; those are the only deals that we may be able to pull off at this moment.

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    Sometimes "Chris Broussard" says the dummest shuuut....why would a
    NBA team give "Shrewed Bussinessman Dolan" one of the missing links
    (a decent backup PG) to make the Knicks a strong competitor team in
    the postseason games without being rewarded four times the worth of
    Flynn or Session....Owners were not happy with Dolan sitting and chatting
    with CP3 during the CBA Lock-Out meetings.

    Real Talk....if the Knicks started the season with a real NBA headcoach that
    wouldve prepare for this rugged 66 tight game schedule by starting the
    season with a 10+ man rotation each game (preparing 13 players) in a 2-unit
    line-up fashion to get players familiar with each other talents for the back to
    back to back schedules without any practices our record would be the same
    as Denvers, Portland, Houston, Utah, Indiana, or one game ahead or behind
    the 76ers. All our players trade-value wouldve risen under a long rotation
    headcoach....we have young fresh legs on our bench with inside/outside
    scoring & defense we couldve developed into a lineup.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Sometimes "Chris Broussard" says the dummest shuuut....why would a
    NBA team give "Shrewed Bussinessman Dolan" one of the missing links
    (a decent backup PG) to make the Knicks a strong competitor team in
    the postseason games without being rewarded four times the worth of
    Flynn or Session....Owners were not happy with Dolan sitting and chatting
    with CP3 during the CBA Lock-Out meetings.

    Real Talk....if the Knicks started the season with a real NBA headcoach that
    wouldve prepare for this rugged 66 tight game schedule by starting the
    season with a 10+ man rotation each game (preparing 13 players) in a 2-unit
    line-up fashion to get players familiar with each other talents for the back to
    back to back schedules without any practices our record would be the same
    as Denvers, Portland, Houston, Utah, Indiana, or one game ahead or behind
    the 76ers. All our players trade-value wouldve risen under a long rotation
    headcoach....we have young fresh legs on our bench with inside/outside
    scoring & defense we couldve developed into a lineup.
    so damn true Kiyaman

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    Originally Posted by KnicksWillRiseAgain
    So Chris Broussard said that the Knicks offered the Rockets a package of Renaldo Balkman and Mike Bibby for Johnny Flynn. One can only assume that they have offered this package to other teams including Cleveland for Ramon Sessions. My question is tho, can we really get anything for Renaldo Balkman and Mike Bibby AT ALL?!? Or is Grunwald just a nutcase?
    Flynn is averaging 11 minutes per game with 3 ppg and shooting 26%!!!

    His numbers are garbage but it probably just lack of confidence and he can drive to the hoop, which DOuglas can't do and he more of PG than Douglas

    So my option is that now they turned down Bibby and Balkman, trade Douglas and Balkman

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Flynn is averaging 11 minutes per game with 3 ppg and shooting 26%!!!

    His numbers are garbage but it probably just lack of confidence and he can drive to the hoop, which DOuglas can't do and he more of PG than Douglas

    So my option is that now they turned down Bibby and Balkman, trade Douglas and Balkman
    tyson is more of a pg than td. thats not a reason to trade for someone.

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    Originally Posted by portega1968
    No one wants to take on the year that is pending in Balkman's contract

    Right now, Mike Bibby couldn't consistently and effectively give you worthy minutes even if he played one-on-one against Deb Sunderman with a flat tire

    So, only way to get rid of Balkman (Bibby is easier to unload because of his expiring deal) would be to package him with Fields, Douglas or Shumpert; those are the only deals that we may be able to pull off at this moment.

    If Balkman, Bibby, Jeff, Novak, Jordan, Jorts, Shump, and Lin were used in
    the right way off the bench to provide offense/defense help for Tyson, Stat,
    Melo, Fields, and TD, our bench players trade-value depth wouldve risen sky high.
    TD couldve started every game, and be substituted the first 4 minutes to
    throw oponents into a loop by putting in a veteran Bibby to finish the first
    quarter. Shump & Lin starting the 2nd quarter of each game wouldve been
    preparing our backcourt for the back to back to back schedule.

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    Originally Posted by amazinz5
    tyson is more of a pg than td. thats not a reason to trade for someone.
    ?????

    I think you supported my statement right there

    Tyson is a better PG than TD, how sad is that?

    GIves you more reason to trade this bum.

    Douglas is a small 2 guard, Jason Terry type.

    FLynn is more of a pg and we need Point guards since Bibby sucks and can't hit his shot, Shumpert stopped driving the hoop so he isn't as effective and isnt a pur point so Lin and the injured Davis are the only guards.

    We need a 3rd PG that can play decently in case Davis gets hurt again.

    We cant afford to have Douglas, Bibby, or Shumpert run the point.

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    tough to get anything with a bibby/balkman trade. maybe you can get brian scalbrine.

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    Best thing the Knicks can do is give Jerome Jordan and Balkman a chance. Another thing the Knicks could do is sign Devin Green to a 10 day contract, give him one last chance. If only it could be as easy as just signing Will the Thrill.

    The only way the Knicks are going to win games now is through defense. I know the Knicks aren't known for defense, but it is going to look look better the next two weeks.

    J Lin - quick, stay in front of guys, talks on defense
    Fields - quick hands, stealing a lot lately
    Walker - getting better on D, only a fill in
    Jeffries - always liked his defense, pokes ball loose, draws charges
    Chandler - He is Tyson Chandler

    Iman - top 3 in steals, and keeps guards uncomfortable

    Defense will be the offense, and with an actual point guard who keeps his head up making great passes, the Knicks could can possibly pull through in some games.

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